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sierrajim Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:15 AM
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WTF 23 Dem's vote yes
Who the fuck are the Dinos trying to screw?
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:16 AM
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1. unbelievable, isn't it?
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:17 AM
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2. Voted yes to what?
Thanks.
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:18 AM
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3. Sorry, must be Roberts.
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sierrajim Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:20 AM
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7. Sorry yes to Roberts
:wtf: :mad: :mad:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:18 AM
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4. 22 - Jeffords is not a Democrat.
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sierrajim Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:22 AM
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8. I was outside working in the car
Thanks for clarifying that I was listening to the radio and they said 23 Democrats.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:18 AM
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5. What Were Those DINOS
like Leahy and Feingold thinking?
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political_invader Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:54 AM
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19. IMO Feingold believes he needed to vote Yeah
To help him with his Presidential Bid. I lost some respect for the man.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:55 AM
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20. As well as that "non-DINO", "anti-DLCer"...
Bayh (who voted nay).
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:18 AM
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6. do you have a run-down of the yea and nays?
I know there will be some very unexpected names in there--for instance Leahy, Byrd and Feingold voted for Roberts--those damn DINOs.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:48 AM
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15. see post 14
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:28 AM
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9. LEVIN voted yea
Guess it's time to tell Bartcop to put Levin BACK into the photo of the pink-tutu'd Dems. He had recently traded out for Leahy. So many pink-tutu'd Dems, but only 4 available tutus in the photo, you see.

It's also time to make a phone call that I can't effing believe I'm going to have to make to Levin's office.

:grr:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:29 AM
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10. anyone know where Kerry was? I did not hear his vote.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:32 AM
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11. Kerry and Kennedy voted Nay...
...whether a Dem was nay or yea seemed to go by state. Very few states in which both were Dems had them split. I'm sure many of the yeas are thinking "well, this guy is Renquists replacement, and he seems more competent than Thomas, and no more a nutbag than Renquist, I'll save my powder for O'Conners replacement"...

Yes, I would love for them to block EVERY Bush appointee. But they are concerned with their political futures...
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:34 AM
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12. If you make a single vote a qualifier for being a DINO...
then there is no such thing as a true Democrat in the Senate. You people really need to get some perspective on these issues. A single vote, unless it is for something truly crazy like ordering a race exterminated, is not important enough to say "Senator X is a fucking Republican".
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:49 AM
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16. I understand what you're saying, but I gotta say this
I am a realist; I know that there is no candidate alive who will vote exactly as I would 100% of the time. Disagreement on lesser issues, sure, I can live with that. But on the big issues, the issues which contain and define the very essence of being a Democrat and what I believe being a Democrat stands for, yes, I pay close attention to those votes. And this yellow dog Dem of 20 years is finding less and less in common with today's Dem party... it's absolutely breaking my heart. I see little to no consistency in any Dem out there, so I have no idea what any one Dem, or the Dem party itself, stands for anymore.

I've never called anyone a DINO for disagreeing with me; in fact, instead of questioning the "DINOs," what's actually happening is I am beginning to understand that it's not them, it's ME -- that I have less in common with today's Democratic party than I had believed all of these years. I am questioning myself and wondering if it's time to switch parties, because the older I get, the farther to the left I get, and I'm not seeing any Dem consistently representing me. But as a realist, I also understand that third parties don't stand a chance in hell. So I have absolutely no damned idea where to go from here.

Just feeling very disheartened today.

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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:19 PM
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26. So the war authorization vote is the bellweather then
Because that sure is turning into a race extermination.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:44 AM
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13. Yes, which is more Democrats voting against him...
...than Republicans voting against Ruth Bader Ginzburg in 1993 (confirmed with 97-0).

And let us not forget that had not a small group of "anti-DINO" zealous fanatics screwed everything up in 2000, we would probably not even be talking about Bush*'s nominations because Bush* would not be nominating.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:46 AM
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14. 22 NAYs see the Senate Roll call lat this link
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 11:50 AM by demo dutch
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:51 AM
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17. to repeat . . . fuck 'em all! . . . Leahy, Feingold, Byrd, all of 'em . .
if they can't stand up when it REALLY counts, we don't need their asses in Congress . . . vote 'em out! . . .
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:56 AM
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21. You're right....we need about 20 more Repubs in Congress.
:eyes:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:24 PM
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27. and that would be different from what we have now how? . . .
republicans or republican enablers, all the same to me . . .
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:34 PM
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28. Does that make the Republicans from 1993 mostly into Democrats?
They, after all, confirmed Ginzburg.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:53 AM
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18. Burn them!!! They're witches!!!
With apologies to QC.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:09 PM
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23. Better yet. Replace them with people with ethics.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:12 PM
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24. They turned me into a newt!
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:15 PM
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25. At least you got better.
:)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:07 PM
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22. Oh well. "Practical" politics overrides ethics every time.
Gotta keep the "moderates" happy, donchya know.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:36 PM
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29. Disappointing and just... sad. nt
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