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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:03 PM
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EVERYONE on this board should look up "Pyrrhic Victory."
But since most of you won't, I did it for you:

http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2003/07/16.html

Word of the Day for Wednesday July 16, 2003

Pyrrhic victory \PIR-ik\, noun:
A victory achieved at great or excessive cost; a ruinous victory.

Technically it was a victory for the British, who attacked the patriot fortifications -- but a Pyrrhic victory if ever there was: out of 2,200 British soldiers 1,034 were killed or wounded, including one in nine of all the officers the British lost in the whole war.
--Geoffrey Wheatcroft, "A Revolutionary Itinerary," The Atlantic, April 2001

Ferguson argued that British involvement in World War I was unnecessary, far too costly in lives and money for any advantage gained, and a Pyrrhic victory that in many ways contributed to the end of the Empire.
--David Harsanyi, "The Old Order," National Review, May 5, 2003

In short, the Hong Kong government might have won this particular battle against the speculators, just as the Malaysians reckon they have done. But with both administrations' credibility hugely damaged as a result, these are Pyrrhic victories that they may come to rue.
--"Market intervention: Fashionable," The Economist, September 5, 1998


A Pyrrhic victory is so called after the Greek king Pyrrhus, who, after suffering heavy losses in defeating the Romans in 279 B.C., said to those sent to congratulate him, "Another such victory over the Romans and we are undone."

Dictionary.com Entry and Pronunciation for Pyrrhic victory


In short, THAT is what is in store if the "RIGHTISTS" are not STOPPED, NOW, ANYWAY THAT WE CAN. The "High Road" will leave us with neither moral superiority OR victory, just the ashes of our economy, our ecology, and our country.



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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:08 PM
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1. Or as someone on the internet once said: nobody ever wins a war,
one side just loses less than the other.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:09 PM
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4. But I prefer Rosie Perez's version in "White Men Can't Jump."
Sometimes when you win, you really lose; sometimes when you lose, you really win; and sometimes you just break even.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:08 PM
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2. Agreed. Winning dirty is still winning.
And we will write the history books anyway, having buried them.

It is time for actions that are outside of the realm of normal politics.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:10 PM
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5. I agree with you a lot....
...and more with time.

And the time has past for demonstrations and singing...it's time for buying hookers and drugs and planting them in hotel rooms.

well...maybe not that far...unless it's absolutely necessary.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:12 PM
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7. LMFAO...
that was good.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:17 PM
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10. Male hookers for the Male rePukes....
...Females for the Females,

and lots of coke, booze and crank for ALL of them. Just for insurance.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:08 PM
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3. one kick for the realists in the audience....
...getting fewer all the time.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:15 PM
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8. Ever notice that 'realist' always means 'pessimist'?
Why aren't us positive types ever considered realists?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:19 PM
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11. Positive only works in a FAIR FIGHT.
Seen any RIGHTISTS fight fair recently?

Time to put on brass nuckles and FUCK the boxing gloves.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:12 PM
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6. I said something similar yesterday, I was the party pooper
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:21 PM
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12. Not by ME, babe.
I think the time is WAY past to lose the gloves and pick up a club.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:48 PM
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17. You mean metaphorically, I assume.
Or are you actually going to go club your Republican neighbors?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:34 PM
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19. Don't temp me...but no.
Yes of course it's a metaphor. we need to do it, none the less.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:17 PM
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9. We should go for a Cadmean victory....
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:22 PM
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13. You should look up "non sequitor."
Unless of course what you are really arguing for is "leftist" (is that the opposite of rightist?)ideological purity.

If the "rightists" are not stopped, we will not have a pyrhic victory, we will have a garden variety defeat.

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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:35 PM
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14. That's not what I'm saying.
I believe they eventually will go down, but if we let it go that far, what will be left? any trees in Oregon? any water in the Midwest?

Will it be WORTH winning at that point? that's what i'm saying.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:18 PM
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15. Ideally...
We get them out before they destroy the environment...

And confiscate their wealth to rebuild what they destroyed.
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TOOLZ Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:33 PM
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16. Once Dems stoop to their level, then they will use it against us
Inconceivable, huh? But they know those dirty tricks so well already, they clearly have no conscience touting hypocritical moral superiority.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:00 PM
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18. they use EVERYTHING against us,,,,,ex #1 Kerry's war service
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:43 PM
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20. Sounds like it is kin to "Catastrophic Sucess" to me.
and they have admitted to that, just no one (average John Q I mean) was sure what they meant.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:44 PM
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21. Why would I lookup something I already know... *grin.
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