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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:54 PM
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I have a simple question...
How the fuck does a dude with two years of experience as a judge wind up our Supreme Court Chief Justice? I just can't reconcile it. It's absolutely insane.

Peace.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:54 PM
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1. Scalia's GOT to be pissed.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:58 PM
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10. No kidding! It's like passing over the "qualified" judges...
(the judges who busted their asses for Shrub, BTW)...

Unreal!!!
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:59 PM
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13. Oh yeah, you know it. n/t
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:01 PM
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19. Let's hope he's pissed enough
to vote against the things the repubs want.

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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:55 PM
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2. It's called DUBYA
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:56 PM
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3. I have wondered that, myself.
And I have no clue.

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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:56 PM
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4. Yes but this is only one of the insane
things that they have done. Brownie, backing Delay and so on. This is no big surprise to me.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:56 PM
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5. It's mindblowing
rather like appointing an intern to head of a surgery department.
Scalia was absent today. He gets no sympathy for me since he helped to create this mess.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:01 PM
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21. Really? I didn't realize he was absent.
LOL!!! Paybacks are a bitch, huh?:rofl:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:57 PM
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6. does he have ANY experience with constitutinal law? . . .
just askin' . . .
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:57 PM
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8. As far as I know, other than a few writings that demonstrate
utter contempt for the U.S. Constitution...no.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:57 PM
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7. I have a simple question...
How the fuck does an illiterate dude with a cocaine habit, a drinking problem, and minimal political experience (Gov. of Texas being largely ceremonial) wind up our President? I just can't reconcile it. It's absolutely insane.

I think my question answers your question.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:59 PM
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12. Ok. Point well taken.
Nothing like a little dose of RW reality to wake you from the fog, huh?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:01 PM
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20. I really really hated to do that to you.
Join me in a drink?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:02 PM
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23. Make mine a double.
:smoke:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:57 PM
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9. You would think the dumbass republicans would be asking that question.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:00 PM
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15. Exactly. Isn't ANYONE (RW) tired of his perpetual BS yet?
:hi:
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:58 PM
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11. The senators keep going on about how qualified he is. At least
he wasn't a horse judge, Or was he?
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:57 PM
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35. No....
I think he was a cat show judge.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:00 PM
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Actual qualifications mean NOTHING to this administration
Roberts is unqualified and arrogantly gave no information on how he would rule for the next 30+ years.

Normal people are aghast, alarmed and shocked.

Kudos to the Democrats that voted against him and with our party platform, like they were elected to do.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:00 PM
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14. Has ANYTHING that has happened since November 2000 made sense?
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 03:00 PM by BrklynLiberal
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:00 PM
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16. Two reasons . . .
1. his age. He'll be chief justice for likely a looooong time.
2. Probably Rove is singing "under my thumb" today.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:00 PM
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17. What's the precidence for other judges who have held this post?
Did they generally have quite a bit more? I do agree two years seems mighty thin, but my reasons for opposing him have nothing to do with how long he's been a judge.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:04 PM
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26. Agreed. However, I'd hardly qualify 2 yrs. as a judge=SC CHIEF Justice
Just another travesty of justice...


Peace.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:01 PM
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18. it ain't who you know it's who you blow
what would you normally assume when a powerful person appoints an obviously unqualified person to a job, it's the gannon press pass all over again would be my guess
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TOOLZ Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:03 PM
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25. There are theories he's gay, too, you know...
Bill Maher showed a picture of him with some men at a picnic posing with a dinner platter.

"What straight man poses wih food?"

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:05 PM
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27. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks for the giggle.
"It's who you blow..."

Peace.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:07 PM
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28. Touche, pitohui. . .courage to say the REAL truth. . .
additionally, Roberts has obvious physical indication that he has Graves disease. . .protruding eyes. . .OR he did and arrested the disease with radiation of the thyroid gland.

If he is now on hypothyroid maintenance drugs, he'll be a sickly SCCJ in more ways than one.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:02 PM
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22. didn't i read somewhere that in many areas, the chief justice has
little power when it comes to majority vote? Maybe that's how things might be played by Scalia...
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:02 PM
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24. At least he didn't work for the
Arabian Horse Association. :shrug:

That said, I completely agree. You don't get to be CEO of a company 2 years after you are hired. But then again, he's got more practical experience than Bush did, since the governor of Texas has very little power. I know, not exactly comforting.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:08 PM
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29. Anyone with more time on the bench would have a record
that the Senate could look at to determine how he might treat certain cases coming up. He's a stealth candidate. Bush knows how he will vote, but there's not much of a public record that we can look at and object to.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:09 PM
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30. At the risk of stating the obvious
Has it seemed like lots of insane things have been happening for the last five years? Like a president never rightly elected that gets chosen by the supreme court and then gets to install someone in the supreme court that helped him win the presidency? Oh I can think of a shitload of other things too.. but this irony is so bad it's beyond words.

What burns me up is that there are Democratic leaders so stupid as to believe that justice and the good old days are not gone with every bit they sell us out. We are past the looking glass. Me, I'm hoping France will invade and set us free.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:11 PM
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31. Now there's an idea!
:toast:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:20 PM
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32. I guess we all assume logic is used in W's decisions
even when we see over and over how that could not be further from the truth.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:56 PM
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33. I have no idea...
Maybe he did GWB a few "personal" favors, i dont' know. i was surprised that he would be considered for chief judge, when there were more qualified judges on the supreme court, with a lot more experience than this young fish/punk. I don't know, whe Rhenquist bought the farm, i thought for sure Scalia would get the spot, but once again, the common sense of the WH and GWB has eluded me again....sorry i can't answer the question...
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eggman67 Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:56 PM
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34. It's slightly more common than not actually
Of 16 previous chief Justices:

5 were elevated from within SCOTUS
11 were appointed directly

Of the 11, six had zero judical experience when appointed:

John Marshall
Roger Taney
Salmon P. Chase
Morrison R. Waite
Melville W. Fuller
Earl Warren

Others:
John Jay - ? yrs NY State Supreme Court
Oliver Ellsworth - ? yrs CT State Superior Court
Willliam Howard Taft - ? yrs OH State Superior Court & Fed Appl Court
Fred M. Vinson - 5 yrs Fed Appl Court
Warren E. Burger ~13 yrs Fed Appl Court
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:09 PM
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36. How did Earl Warren...one of the greatest...
liberal (as it turned out) CJs, become the CJ with no bench experience?? I wonder if we at DU would complain about that appointment.

Either don't be a hypocrite, or learn your danged history! Or, better yet, how about both!
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:11 PM
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37. Here, here..........!!
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 04:12 PM by ArkDem
dang, or was that hear, hear!!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:43 PM
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38. I heard that the lying lunatic wants to nominate someone who
isn't even a judge to replace O'Connor.
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eggman67 Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:10 PM
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39. Very common n/t
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