DeLay is CRACKING UP on CNN

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Are you watching this?

:rofl:

[merwin]

1. huh?

[Walt Starr]

2. Feed the cube rats!

PLEASE!!!!

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Saying Nancy Pelosi plotted with prosecuter and proof will come.....

"at the right time"

:rofl:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

19. Bwahahaha! Glad our Esteemed Minority Leader has such power!

:rofl:

[SillyGoose]

42. Serious question here - Delay is accusing Pelosi of conspiring with

Earle to bring bogus charges against him - he is accusing Pelosi & Earle of committing a serious crime. If those accusations are untrue, wouldn't Delay be guilty of making slanderous statements against Earle and Pelosi for which they could bring suit against him?

[0rganism]

50. Public figures are generally unprotected by slander and libel laws

Simply put, the prosecution for such a lawsuit would have to establish that
1) Rep. Delay KNEW the allegations were false at the time of utterance, and
2) made those false allegations with the express intent to harm Pelosi and Earle

which is nearly impossible to do.

Normally, one only has to establish that such a statement had an injurious effect. Public figures have to prove prior intent.

[SillyGoose]

57. Thank you for setting me straight on this. Its a shame he can get away

with saying this stuff.

[GreenPartyVoter]

58. Really. What a creep and now the sheeple will think he is telling the

truth.

[SillyGoose]

60. Yep. This really stinks. (nt)

[Carni]

76. I wouldn't count on it ...Delay is not very marketable

In fact most people prior to now, who didn't typically pay attention to politics, probably didn't even know who the hell he was...

Once they see him (whining about being caught no less)they will be turned off in a big way.

He's a PR person's worst nightmare because there is no way to spin that asshole as honest, or likeable.

BTW if wingers bring him up and express sympathy?

Just make sure you let them know he got his start as an AMWAY diamond...that usually resonates with the redneck sheeple who have been burned by AMWAY.

[loudsue]

92. Is that true??? He was high up in Amway?

I'd never heard that. :rofl: Figures! He's been selling his snake-oil for quite a while, hasn't he?

:kick:

[0rganism]

62. Heh, compared to what the GOP did to the Clintons, this is mild stuff

Public figures just have to swallow hard and plow on through.

[Me.]

81. Swiftboating

is a repug tradition

[Dr Fate]

84. But is it not true that one of the rationales for that...

...is that public figures have a platform to defend themselves against false charges, while the non-public figure does not?

Is there any case law where a public figure slanders another public figure?

[CBGLuthier]

61. but he could, and should

be censured for making disparaging remarks about another member.

That won't happen of course, but it should.

[mattclearing]

66. It's possible. It would have to be a libel suit.

I think Pelosi should sue his ass. About time someone called these people on their lies.

The basis for libel with respect to a public figure is (if I remember correctly):

1. Must be published (done).
2. Must be demonstrably false (?)
3. Must injure complainant in some way. (Not sure if Pelosi can show injury, but accusing her of a crime seems like it would qualify)
4. Must be said while knowing it was false with malicious intent (done)

[randomelement]

45. It's a vast, left wing conspiracy n/t

[converted_democrat]

70. Excuse me??? Did you forget the sarcasm??? n/t

[bertha katzenengel]

75. Jesus. One can be sarcastic without having to plaster that smiley all

over the place. It's called subtlety.

[Why Syzygy]

86. Or

maybe a "sense of humor"?

[NYC]

68. That's similar to what Condi Rice said in an Alabama church

during her post Katrina performance. She said that the lord would come on time -- if people wait. Sounds like a similar concept to me.

"The Lord is going to come on time — if we just wait," she said.

From: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/04/national/w125027D65.DTL

[Why Syzygy]

87. I have no more "wait"

guess the "lord" is SOL.

[Bill McBlueState]

3. no

Could you say something useful for those of us who aren't in front of a TV? Pretty please? :)

[truebrit71]

4. Please feed the cube-rats...

...thank you!!

[bemildred]

5. Don't watch the tube, speak to me. nt

[Walt Starr]

9. This shit always bugs me

OP: DID YOU JUST SEE THAT...

fifteen minutes later you get a four word explanation, if you're lucky.

[bemildred]

14. Yeah, but it's better than paying for cable-brain-erosion syndrome.

:hi:

[katty]

64. CBES-too funny-trademark that right away

[Kralizec]

33. Same here. I wish they would just put a little more info for those

of us "unfortunate" enough to not be able to watch the boob tube at any convenience. Speak up peeps.

Peace.

[Jackpine Radical]

73. Oh, wow, man!! Did you hear that???

(apropos of nothing in particular.)

[gratuitous]

6. Is Bert there?

If not, I wouldn't think DeLay could function properly.

[graywarrior]

7. He's more arrogant than cracking up

[cynatnite]

8. I missed it...what happened? n/t

[MissB]

10. Delay is accusing the Democratic leadership of working with the

prosecutor. He says he has proof. Wolf asked him when he was going to share the proof. Delay said "when the time is right.".

Get right on that, will you Bugman?

[Walt Starr]

13. I have the names of 40 members of the Democratic Party who have

blah blah blah.

He's channeling Joe McCarthy.

[MissB]

15. Yeah, it was pretty lame.

I'm too young for the McCarthy hearings, but I get it. :D

[Walt Starr]

28. Sounds like it was worse than "channeling" Joe McCarthy

From the sounds of it, he was possessed by Tailgunner Joe.

[HereSince1628]

39. Is his prosecution on a state charge or a federal charge?

[txaslftist]

41. State Jail Felony

Purely a State of Texas deal.

[rodeodance]

16. i hope there is not any truth to his claims.

[MissB]

21. .

:spray:

Not a snowball's chance in hell. :rofl: It was clear he was bullshitting.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

24. If this evidence was there, don't you think they'd have done something?

[SammyWinstonJack]

51. Exactly! nt

[Mutley]

26. If they had evidence, it would be everywhere by now.

[GodHelpUsAll2]

80. Not necessarily

They may not be done manufacturing it yet!

[Carni]

78. I'll bet that scumbag has already copped a plea

He's just flinging crap around the cables and internets in an attempt to fling his last gasping bad breath at the public.

I hate Pat Buchanan and think he's a blowhard but he's usually right about the repuke party and yesterday he said Delay is done-cooked-finished.

If you ask me... what really cooked him were his comments the other day about the budget being unable to be cut--the freepers and other retards didn't like that, he has pissed off the bush base.

They'll let the asshole swing in the wind.

[enki23]

so what if they are? they may have relevent information

some of them may well be witnesses to crimes committed by mr tom "oh how i wish i were a soprano" delay.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

18. translation: some dems in texas have evidence on him.

bug off, bugman

[quiet.american]

23. Since when is working to uphold "the rule of law" a bad thing

If the Democratic Leadership is cooperating with Ronnie Earl, you'd think the "party of moral values" would be thrilled at this dedication to "the rule of law."

[Blue Belle]

83. Jeez... it's like Delay has forgotten how many Republican leaders...

worked with Ken Star to bring down Clinton (himself included). Here comes that wonderful Republican double standard... "We're not partisan... only Democrats are!!" :eyes:

[speedoo]

52. He's gonna let us know the same day OJ finds the real killer.

OJ is still searching on those golf courses.

[Imagevision]

55. This is sooo Rove...! If you're accused (or indicted?) blame them...!

[never cry wolf]

59. Give him time

Rove's forger has been busy lately.

[Why Syzygy]

89. Oh yeah... It's always "Partisan"

Like he doesn't know that! KEEP THE VOTES OPEN ALL NIGHT and twist rep's arms? THAT'S NOT FUCKING "PARTISAN"?

What a freaking LOSER! Another one.

[lillilbigone]

11. what a lame thread nt

[cynatnite]

20. Why is it lame? n/t

[Beaverhausen]

34. it's lame because there is no info in it...just "Did you see that?"

that bugs me too. If you are going to talk about something on TV at least tell those who aren't watching what is going on. please?

[lillilbigone]

82. Cuz when I posted my message it was content-free

but it has gotten a lot better. In fact, it is now a pretty good thread.

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[sendero]

37. what a lame posting n/t

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[knowbody0]

12. he got just a little testy

wolfie is such a schmuck. blah blah blah. he's running for office again in 06, expects to "have this whole thing cleared up by Dec"

[malaise]

17. It's fun watching him now

the arrogance is disappearing rather quickly.
Everytime I see him I wonder why his skin reminds me of the "recently gone sour"orange revolution guy in Georgia. :rofl: :rofl:

[bemildred]

22. "Is he standing on the grassy knoll?"

:rofl::rofl:

[malaise]

29. More like the NOLA mold

Rethug mold is spreading all over as they sink in that fetid water.
:rofl: :rofl:

edit - sp

[johnfunk]

38. Yes, with an umbrella!

n/t

[Ready4Change]

27. Cry away, Tom Delay.

Boo hoo. Mean ol' Democrats are doing to me what I and the GOP have been doing non-stop for the last 20 years! IT'S UNFAIR! Boo hoo hoo. It's a con... con... conSPIRacy! Wahhhhhh! How dare they indict me when all they have is a bunch of stupid evidence and witnesses!

Boo hoo hoo!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Suck it up, Tom. Take it like a man, not a weasily little crybaby.

[IChing]

30. IT'S TRUE HE HAS PROOF I JUST GOT A MEMO HE GOT THE INFORMATION FROM

TERRY SHAVIO

[Mutley]

31. ...

:spray:

[johnfunk]

36. Yeah, he's got proof -- 120 proof...

... and he's probably sharing it with Commander-in-Chimp George W. McBunnypants.

Bottoms up, DeLay!

[Carni]

79. I have a better source--the ghost of Richard Nixon

Go ahead and try to top THAT! (shit I hope you aren't channeling raygun lol)

[Spazito]

32. It was a hoot, Wolfie started off detailing the conspiracy charge,

Delay says no, that was not it, Wolfie then proceeds to read the indictment which, coincidentally was exactly what Wolfie had said, and Delay didn't have a leg to stand on so started in on how money laundering is legal and besides, he didn't know anything about it, roflmao.

[pinto]

49. Bizarre repub logic - it was all legal and I didn't know anything about it

:eyes:

[NYC]

69. It didn't happen. If it did happen, I wasn't there. If I was there,

I didn't know about it. If I did know about it, I didn't know it was wrong.

Etc.

[Garbo 2004]

85. LOL. That's great. ThinkProgress has a nice DeLay page that's

entertaining as well as informative. http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?cat=6

[Why Syzygy]

93. Let's go ahead and add

perjury to the laundry list. All in favor, say "yay".
And we'll stay here all night if we have to.

[johnfunk]

35. My wife just got back from Equinox health club...

... in NYC. CNN was on the monitors in the treadmill/bicycle room. People were laughing out loud and saying "Bullshit!" as DeLay talked to Leslie Blitzer.

She overheard one guy say to another: "OK, I'm a Republican, but a Rockefeller Republican. DeLay's a bozo, and the sooner he's frogmarched, the better."

[malaise]

40. Molly Ivins is murdering him

No moral compass and when he gets in trouble he calls the jesus card. Kill him Molly!! You just can't count very well. Please don't quote the Wall Street Journal. Ronnie Earl is not some over zealous person. This is too good:popcorn: :popcorn: :rofl: :rofl:

edit -sp.

[lovuian]

48. Ya Molly is chewing up & spitting out Molinari on Tweety's show

Its fascinating to watch the Republican Spin & Propoganda Mockingbird show!!!

It just doesn't fly when ya lie!!!

[Why Syzygy]

90. Mollly rocks. nt

[TrogL]

47. I have to ask

What's a 'Rockefeller Republican'?

[Maat]

54. A Republican who just go ahead and admit that he is a ..

liberal Democrat.

[LiviaOlivia]

56. A moderate to liberal Republican.

As in Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of NY. He opposed Nixon and famously flipped him the bird at the 1968? convention.

on edit: He flipped somebody off. can't remember

[johnfunk]

67. Rocky sends Tricky his love

[Name removed]

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[amandabeech]

65. The "Rockefeller Republicans" that I've known have been fiscally

conservative and more oriented toward business in general and bigger business in particular. However, they're not totally heartless.

They are generally moderate to liberal on values and social issues. Many do not oppose abortion, don't get very worked up over gay marriage, and support the Civil Rights Acts and equal opportunity although they seldom approve of much affirmative action.

Really, most of them would be comfortable around many moderate to conservative Dems, but come from long lines of Republicans, mostly from the North.

[jbm]

74. wow! Thank you for this..

I've been trying to put together a 'time line' of sorts that would help me explain how the parties had changed over the years. Your post gave me some missing pieces that made my task much easier. Thanks again!

[WA98296]

43. Why doesn't Pelosi sue for slander?

Failure to respond strongly to this type of stuff never works out.

[0rganism]

53. Because it's excrutiatingly difficult -- cf my post #50 upthread

That's why the rw talkshow hosts were able to shit on Pres. Clinton ad nauseum (e.g., how he murdered Vince Foster) and he couldn't do anything about it.

[Mr_Spock]

44. The sky is blue on window TV!

:eyes:

[lillilbigone]

71. Fascinating nt

[tlsmith1963]

72. Whine, Whine, Whine!

Geez, that Delay can whine. It's everyone's fault but his. Hey Tom, why don't you act like an *adult* for once & stop blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings? You deserve the punishment that's coming to you, & so do the other neocons. You and your friends have spit on this country long enough. You have to go. Deal with it.

Tammy

[mvd]

77. I don't watch the cable news, but..

I hope it's a start! I really need good news and breakthroughs.

[Ksec]

88. mentally imbalanced

Imagine a party that puts a man like this in charge.

Hes obviously mentally sick. I dont know the diagnosis for what he has but anyone watching him self destruct while believing hes a righteous dude who is being blackballed by everyone who is conspiring to bring him down can see the reality of his mental illness.. The GOP should take him away to get some help. This guy is in the middle of a mental breakdown.

I watched his last night and it was alarming that he had slipped so far into this mental paranoia.

.

[opihimoimoi]

91. Only thing missing are those ball bearings....damn.....

[Why Syzygy]

94. Katrina ... take your last breath, bughole .

Assholes. I believe in Karma again.

Blessed be. And may she rule forever.