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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:28 PM
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Will flag burning save the GOP?
or will this be the election when people FINALLY see this inane issue for what it is?

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Campaign/092005.html

The Republican-led Senate is unlikely to vote on a flag-burning amendment this fall, but the measure will almost certainly hit the floor months before next year’s elections.

Republicans will use the proposed amendment to the Constitution as political ammunition in 2006. Several targeted Democrats in the upper chamber oppose changing the Constitution to prohibit flag burning, including Sens. Jeff Bingaman (N.M.), Maria Cantwell (Wash.), Kent Conrad (N.D.) and Robert Byrd (W.Va.).

The fate of a pending flag-burning amendment lies in the hands of a few senators. Because Sen. Orrin Hatch’s (R-Utah) amendment would alter the Constitution, it needs 67 votes, two-thirds of the Senate, to pass.

Including Hatch, the amendment has 58 co-sponsors. Based on previous votes, the measure has the likely support of 63 senators — if senators vote the way they have previously.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:33 PM
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1. I've spent a friggin' lifetime listening to this flag happy
horseshit. It's like a wart. It never goes away.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:37 PM
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2. The republican party burned this country's flag when they backed
...Richard Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam War in 1968 and allowed Nixon to go on bombing and killing 40,000 more Americans and millions of Southeast Asians and then supporting the war criminal racist Ronald Reagan and his genocidal policies in Latin America.

The only time the American Flag serves any humane purpose by being burned is when a republican has wrapped themselves up in one and claiming that they are patriotic Americans!
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:38 PM
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3. I dont want to see burn marks on a soldier from a war based on a lie
I think thats a little more in important than a flag. On a side note. I love this country I hate it's leaders.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:41 PM
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4. Why buy a flag when you can't
drive it around to show how macho you are. When you run out of gas you look like a fool,when the car explodes from being hit, the flag burns with the car?
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:42 PM
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5. It is not even remotely surprising...
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 08:45 PM by nankerphelge
that they would bring out this turd and try to wipe the dust off it. It's worked so well for them in the past. "Why worry about any of the issues that have any actual impact on what happens in your life? Hippies are BURNING YOUR FLAG!" It's a variation on the current "Why worry about any of the issues that have any actual impact on what happens in your life? Gays are done getting married." They are running out of non-issues to fool the idiots with... I'd like to think they've underestimated their stupidity, but people have a way of disappointing.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:44 PM
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6. why don't they just make flags flame-retardant
or out of plastic or metal mesh. Then we could stop wasting everyone's time on this shit.
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rfrrfrrfr Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:14 PM
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10. Well because
It would be more difficult to properly dispose of old, damaged,unpresentable flags. The preferred method of disposal is burning.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:36 PM
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11. we could melt them in our nuclear facilities.
it would tie in the military-industrial complex so well and be such a comfort to the wing-nuts.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:59 PM
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7. That issue is one people really don't care about.
Ask people if they really care and they don't.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:06 PM
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9. I agree. Flag burning is not a wedge issue. nt
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:02 PM
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8. There's only one way flag burning could save the GOP
That's if they (metaphorically, of course) were to soak about five hundred flags in gasoline, pack the flags and the Bush administration in the same box, and throw in a match.

The only thing that's going to save the GOP is getting rid of the albatross around its neck.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:37 PM
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12. WTF?? Flag burning is the preferred way to retire a flag!!!!
Do you mean "flag desecration amendment?

Anyone have a copy of the proposed amendment?
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:01 PM
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13. This is only for the raw red meat reliable Repubs anyway
Nobody who is any sort of swing voters is going to be swayed by this.

It's value as a wedge issue died long ago.

Now, the pledge, that'll get em out. Gotta save God, since he's all sort of weak and namby pamby and can't be relied on to care for himself.
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