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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:37 PM
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IS a Quadfecta possible
Frist investigated
Delay indicted
Abu Gahraib Photos released
J miller to rat out Libby/Rove

Geesh we might even see some erosion in that locked down 35%

Shame it is still 57 weeks bedore the midterms. FOr the Love of God can we find a true leader in this leaderless party??????

We could take back both houses if we had someone would just come out and say how screwed up the GOP is and how screwed we are all as a result.

I am not lookng for someone who is running for president in three years. I want a leader who can put together a winning message and not an incoherant rant. Hell Newt Gingrich is a more effective spokesman for us than either of the two buffoons on the Hill.

Grrrr...ok I am through now.
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tompayne1 Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:40 PM
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1. it is true
the dems need some freaking unity none of this bickering that has been going on for oh so long. personally i suggest harry reid. any better ides??
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:45 PM
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6. No He is one of the bufoons
He hust does not come across as someone who is goint to lead the DEms to VIctory in 2006.

I don't know if I would support Joe Biden in 2008... too early today


but He strikes me as good a spokesman as the Senate has right now.

Obama is too green and Kerry well...it would look like he was just acting up because he lost... He would be ignored.

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cdsilv Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:42 PM
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2. Dean? Sam Nunn? Kerry (wussy), How about Ben Afflek?
I don't know. We need someone. I'm someone with a checkered past so it can't be me. We do need someone. Perhaps Martin Sheen or Alan Alda?

They've got visibility - not perfect, but maybe just good enough.

Bill Gates has become very rich on doing 'just good enough'.

Believe me that if the US business community insisted on 'the best' we all would be running very different SW these days.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:58 PM
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9. Somebody...anybody....n/t
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:42 PM
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3. How about a trifecta trifecta..There's enough repug crooks to fill the
spaces.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:45 PM
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4. James Galloway for common people worldwide. . n/t
:smoke:
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:45 PM
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5. #3 and # 4 won't happen. They have everything wrapped up on those 2.
No way Miller rats on Libby-Rove. He gave her the release so she could say "it wasn't them". Pentagon will never give up those pictures. They are radioactive and will be kept secret like a nuclear weapon's plans.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:49 PM
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7. If the Pentagon losed at SCOTUS they will give them up.
There is n way the top brass would defy the high court. THat effectively is a Coup de tat,

AMerican people would not stand for it.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:55 PM
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8. There are also a lot of 'murcans who don't want the pictures out because
they are afraid of world reaction, especially from the mid-east. I'm not one of them, but I sense that most don't want more anger towards the US. I'm sure there will be a poll on this soon.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:31 PM
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10. Conyers, Pelosi, Kennedy.
Hell I'd love to see, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, and Lewis Black run for office.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:48 PM
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11. OMG I said help us win
Pelosi is one of the bufoons I was talking about!

And if you think Ted Kennedy can help anyone win a nationalized Congressional election .....OMG


When will you ultra-lefties wake up an understand: Politcal Power is far more important than Political principle!!!

Look in order to gain power. it has to be more than "we hate the incumbent" You also have to persuade the american populace to trust your frontman.


The middle would rather stay with a republican they hate than elect a liberal they fear. Perhaps that is wrong-headed on the elecotrate part but it is the political reality.

So long as the republican sucessfully play the fear card we lose.

To win the middle has to trust you. Poster children for abject liberalism are not the spokesmodels we need in 2006.

Again I am not talking about liberal principles here I am talking about winning an election.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:52 AM
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12. Well we've already had five years of damage under the far right.
The American people by and large are seeing through all the crap, at last. Maybe as a reaction to being burned by the far right, we are ready to swing a little further to the left. Equal & opposite reaction and all that jazz. It would be a shame if the pendulum was ready to swing far to the left, and the momentum was broken, halfway, by our own leadership. You can't please everyone, and sometimes walking the line right down the middle doesn't cut it. Were an opposition party, at least were supposed to be. If you're driving a bus, with 50 people on it, 47 wan't to go left, and three want to go right, guess what, the three who want to go right can get off the bus and start walking, cause going straight, you know, off the cliff, just isn't gonna get you quite where you want to go.
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