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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:09 AM
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Step back and ask is this really only about pro-choice and gay rights?
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 08:43 AM by Skwmom
Abortion rights and gay rights seem to be a major focus of the supreme court appointments. However, while the left and right fight over and focus mainly on these issues I think they are busy packing the court with PRO-CORPORATE individuals, people who will do whatever the people who put them in power request.

I'm not saying that these two issues aren't important. I just think they are achieving another objective while everyone else is focusing only on these two issues.

On edit: Let me clarify that this is also about minority rights and individual rights. As the corporate rights increase, these rights will diminish.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:22 AM
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1. You sound dead on.
In fact, from what I'm reading, she's pro-choice. It only confirms what we've believed all along - that the Bush team has taken the theocrats for a ride.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:26 AM
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4. They're in the process of creating the "Blank Check" SC.
The beauty of this set-up is that the SC will be able to take unpopular actions and the individual elected Republicans in Congress will not have to pay the price at the polls.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:40 AM
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6. Where are you reading that she's pro-choice?
Another DUer posted this article on another thread:

From a post on Daily Kos, excerpting a Wall Street Journal article:



"Legal Beat: Bar Association Votes to Back Abortion Rights" August 12, 1992


SAN FRANCISCO -- After a contentious debate, the policy-making body of the American Bar Association voted to take a pro-abortion rights position at the organization's annual meeting.

The decision by the ABA, which followed Monday's vote by convention attendees to endorse the proposal, was a victory for abortion-rights advocates. At its annual meeting two years ago, the ABA adopted a neutral position.

Before the 276-168 vote yesterday, the ABA's new president, Michael McWilliams of Baltimore, told reporters that the ABA could no longer remain neutral.

"You can't dodge an issue just because it's tough," said Mr. McWilliams, a Baltimore lawyer, in remarks to reporters. "And you can't call abortion a non-legal issue."

The ABA's perceived alliance with one side or the other in the abortion debate was a matter of concern to lawyers attending the annual meeting here this week. Both the National Abortion Rights Action League and the National Right-to-Life Committee have been closely monitoring the ABA action, spokeswomen for the groups said.

"People who support this abortionrights resolution want the prestige of the ABA behind the pro-choice movement," Texas bar President Harriet Miers said Monday, arguing against adoption of the resolution supporting abortion rights.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/3/71556/3735
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:43 AM
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8. I'm not saying she's pro choice. However, these two issues are
the ones that seem to be the focus of the nomination process (to the exclusion of other equally important rights and concerns).
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Michael_UK Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:46 AM
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9. If you read "What's the Matter with Kansas?" by Thomas Frank...
that's the big revelation. The pro-corporate conservatives use the pro-life, anti-gay rhetoric at every election cycle. They'd be crazy to actually do something about abortion. The one thing they consistently do is screw the working and middle classes, and cutting taxes for the rich.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:56 AM
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11. Exactly, but at some point,
the sheep are going to stop following. Now that they have all the power, they're wondering why they aren't getting what they want, namely, an anti-choice justice. They lost on Schiavo. They are losing on stem cell. And they want to know why, after they've donated all their time, money, and votes to Republicans, why aren't they doing anything now that they have the power.

It's gonna bite them in the ass real soon.
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David Briggs Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:22 AM
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2. OK so focus on controlling corporate behavior.
Join with others to purchase corporate stock and vote that stock to put management in place who will not pursue profit as the number one priority.

(Profit should be no higher than priority number four.)
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:41 AM
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7. It's more than just how corporations pursue their profit.
Sounds great but I don't view this as a really viable fix.
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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:25 AM
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3. and don't forget racial minority rights
That seems to be the last of everyone's concerns these days. If I had to choose between abortion rights and my right to be free in this country as a minority person I would choose the latter.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:27 AM
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5. I agree and edited my original post for clarification. n/t
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 08:30 AM by Skwmom
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paleoarcher Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:47 AM
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10. While I
support reproductive rights and the rights of gay and lesbian people, the power of corporations is the greater threat to life, liberty,and the enviroment.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:56 AM
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12. It is also about our health and environment;
putting corporations first generally means that human health and the place we live-our planet-suffer for it. With climate change and biodiversity loss threatening our survival in the coming decades, and with rising asthma, autism, and cancer rates, more corporate power puts our very existence at risk. I'm concerned about reproductive and human rights, but the issue becomes mute if we lose our ability to survive on this planet.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 09:11 AM
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13. Absolutely it is more than gay rights and choice
But we need to push those other agendas in a way that the gay rights and prolifers can understand and that may be harder than hard.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 09:43 AM
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14. exactly -- just as the conservative cry for "law and order" was also
more about electing pro-corporate politicians and appointing pro-corporate judges
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