Dispelling VRWC myth #345: The Sudan aspirin factory WAS making WMD

[NewYorkerfromMass]

TRUTH: Clinton was right to bomb it. Clinton believed in fighting the war on terror. (Unlike the friend of the Saudis unjustly residing in the WH now):

"...the Sudan plant had known ties to bin Laden. The discovery at the plant of a precursor to the deadly gas known as VX fit into "an ominous pattern we had been piecing together against bin Laden and his network,"

CIA: Bin Laden planned chemical attack on U.S. troops in Gulf

NOTE to Rush fans: Bush is a liar and an AWOL fraud. He is using you and our troops in the mid-east to line his and Cheney's and his dad's pockets. He sat back and let 9/11 happen. There is still hope though, we can turn his AWOL ass out on the street and back to Austin.
If you really love America then you will take the blindfolders off and see Bush for the complete incompetent and lying user he is.

[On the Road]

1. The Sudan Bombing Has Always Bothered Me

but if Clinton did not have what he thought was good intelligence that it was a chem or bio facility, what rationale would he have had for bombing it? All it could have done would be to make him look bad (which it did).

So based on that, I have to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt.

When Chomsky writes about the incident, however, he goes on say that regardless of its other uses, the factory was virtually the only source of medicines in Sudan. After the bombing, the US ensured that Sudan could not either rebuild the factory or buy equivalent amounts of medicine elsewhere.

If this is true, it is extremely callous behaviour on the US's part, and caused many Sudanese deaths for lack of simple medicines.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

3. That's yet another myth: Loss of factory caused many Sudanese deaths

What?? It's not like you can't import the drugs you need from elsehwhere? GEEZ! :eyes:

[HFishbine]

6. This is meaningless

Clinton is not the issue.

[JanMichael]

7. Not when you have no $$/credit you can't.

You were just joshing though, right?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

11. Hey..un-josh me..please!

gotta link?

[wyldwolf]

2. I always thought this story was spun to take heat off of G.H.W. Bush...

..for bombing the baby milk facility in Iraq.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

4. It's not a myth. In fact that was the WHOLE POINT.

If you read the article you will find that the person who is making that claim is John Gannon. Now you would think that doesn't mean much until you find out that John Gannon is tied to Intellibridge Corporation and Intellibridge Corporation is tied to Enron. He was also tapped to work for The Dept of Homeland Security as the head of intelligence.

Yep, this sounds like the kind of guy I would trust to "dispel myths" on his say so alone! :eyes:

Sources:
http://nrrc.mitre.org/NRRC/Documents/John%20Gannon%20Intellibridge%20Bio.doc

http://www.counterpunch.org/enronintellibridge.html

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0103/012903h1.htm

Now, for what I believe really happened. If you have read many of my posts, you will know that I believe that Al Qaeda is in fact a CIA front organisation that was spun off by the BFEE (or VRWC if you prefer) for their own use. The BFEE has been planning what is going on right now for decades, and the first Gulf War was meant to be the first step, but they didn't expect Clinton to get elected, and he got in their way.

Suddenly Al Qaeda began targetting the US, supposedly to get US troops out of Saudi Arabia, but without actually tagetting those troops. Many of these Al Qaeda attacks were seemiongly assisted by US forces. For example the 1993 WTC bombing was carried out under the noses of the FBI, and in fact the FBI seems to have been the source of the explosives used.

During this timeframe, PNAC started up, and began putting pressure on Clinton to react to these attacks, as well as the phony WMD charges against Iraq, but he didn't buy it.

Next thing you know there is the whole Monica thing and attempts to impeach Clinton. Now in here falls the Sudan bombing. The point of this bombing was to get Clinton to bomb an innocent factory, thus making him look like a failure as well as diverting him from attacking REAL Al Qaeda targets.

The camp in Afghanistan is another example. The intelligence that led to the attack was so bad it HAD to be intentional, and didn't Clinton llok bad when all he could do was kill a camel and knock down a few derelict buildings!

Also look at the Cole bombing. A US navy ship was sent into a hostile harbour with ZERO protection and left waiting to be attacked. When the FBI tried to find out what happened, BFEE cronies ran them off supposedly because they were antagonising the locals, but more likely to prevent them actually finding out who was behind the attack.

So along comes 2000, and now the BFEE is getting desperate. Their plans are in action, but unless they can get their man in the Oval Office it would all be for naught, and might even expose them. So what happens? The 2000 coup.

Then right on cue comes the Sept 11 bombing.

Look, if you go back through the history you will see that this is an ongoing plan carried out by the BFEE with the CIA (or at least the part they controlled) and it has all been leading right to where we are now - the US becoming a fascist police state.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

5. USS Cole- Q: Why would the FBI investigate a crime outside this country?

My understanding is the FBI is domestic and the CIA/NSA international.
Also, note how close the Cole was bombed to election day, and that some GOP scum had the astonishingly depraved gall to try and blame it on Clinton. A set-up? One wonders.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

8. Good question. The Truth is however that the FBI has LONG been

involved in investigations overseas. Like for example the Lockerbie bombing. You wouldn't think that the US' closest ally would need assistance to investigate, but they supposedly did.

Actually the truth is no nation has a choice. The FBI has an officer in every US Embassy, and they often get involved in local investigations becase the US "asks" to be involved.

The Cole investigation was headed up by FBI agent John O'Neill who had been heavily involved in investigating most of the Al Qaeda attacks. After being removed from the Cole case he was involved in a scandal where his briefcase containing classified documents was supposedly stolen by hotel thieves, and he eventually resigned from the FBI. O'Neill then went on to head security at the WTC where he was killed on Sept 11.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-ieone2365572sep14,0,1705105.story

It is interesting to note that of all the FBI agents in a position to figure out the BFEE plan, this one was killed at the WTC!

Yep, the whole Al Qaeda campaign was a set up from the very beginning, and it was designed with two purposes in mind - to get Clinton to carry out the BFEE plans through manipulation or failing that to get him voted out, and to create a justification for a "war on terror" which is actually a veiled "war on anyone who stands in the way of the BFEE".

On edit: Just wanted to add that O'Neill complained of Bush admin interference preventing him from being able to track Al Qaeda, and that investigations into Al Qaeda were being supressed.

Also, note that the "war on terror" has not gone after either Suadi Arabia or Pakistan, the two nations most closely linked to Al Qaeda. Saudi Arabia was responsible for supplying the recruits, and Pakistan the training, both within Pakistan and in the Taliban controlled areas of Afghanistan. The Taliban is virtually a creation of the Pakistani ISI, and thus the CIA. Taliban means "student" and refers to the people trained at the Pakistani ISI/ US CIA funded madrassas (religious schools) in Pakistan.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

9. Thanks. Meanwhile, noone wants to touch this thread with a 10 footer

I guess admin. lock-down on new regs took care of that! :evilgrin: Thanks Skinner! Hi-Rush-cyst! :hi:

[Noordam]

10. bin Laden OWNED the plant per

Sidney Blumenthal, author of "The Clinton Wars"

BuzzFlash has the page in question here

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/08/18-3_blumenthal.html

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. Clinton did the right thing then

:hi: Hi Rush!