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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:17 PM
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FRONTLINE Examines how PNAC fabricated Iraq War (Thur nite)
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 07:17 PM by protect freedom impe
PBS' Frontline Examines How Rummy's NeoCon Cabal Manipulated 9-11 Into the Conquest of Iraq

"FRONTLINE traces the roots of the Iraqi war back to the days immediately following September 11, when Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld ordered the creation of a special intelligence operation to quietly begin looking for evidence that would justify the war. The intelligence reports soon became a part of a continuing struggle between civilians in the Pentagon on one side and the CIA, State Department, and uniformed military on the other-a struggle that would lead to inadequate planning for the aftermath of the war, continuing violence, and mounting political problems for the resident."

TONIGHT (Thursday) 9 p.m. EST.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/truth/
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:21 PM
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1. Does that overlap the debate?
Have to record it.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:21 PM
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2. excellent excellent excellent THANKS FOR POSTING THIS IN TIME!
only about 35 minutes to go... gotta grab a bite to eat and get back here!
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:25 PM
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4. It's TOMORROW night...
Thursday, not tonight. Tune in tonight and you'll get Ken Burns American Stories.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:03 PM
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9. rats. 8^)
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:23 PM
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3. Just checked my satellite guide...
This is the descriptive blurb about the Frontline report:

"Administration officials and Iraqi opposition leaders examine the reasons the United States went to war."

Hmm... are you sure it's goint give an accurate picture of how PNAC and the NeCons have manipulated the Iraqi situation? Sounds like it's more likely to be "canned hash" from the administration. Will just have to see.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:56 PM
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7. Read the press release
here:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/press/2201.html
also see this: http://www.pbs.org/previews/Frontline_TruthWarConsequences/

I saw Charlie Rose interview the producer Mertin Smith last night, I didn't catch the whole thing but I was impressed. To even mention the OSP and what it's real purpose was is amazing for mainstream. They are really going after Chalabi on this show as one of the prime movers (and liars) behind the war. I just looked on Rose's website and the transcript of the interview is not up but I got damn excited to hear the show would air.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:32 PM
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5. Thank you. I will pass this along to friends who thought I've lost my mind
when I told them about PNAC and Office of Special Plan. I consider most of these people well informed, but none of them knew about this.

It is very important that we get this information out to everyone we know. Most Americans do not know that their government is being run by an unelected shadow of an unelected shadow government:crazy:
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:37 PM
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6. Am I losing my mind or are we finally seeing the media take an interest?
Please let this be the beginning of a very long headache for Bushco. and his PNAC idiots. Pleeeez
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:12 PM
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10. Frontline did a story that touched on PNAC in Feb...
If you haven't had a chance to see it, check it out here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/iraq/

Thank you, PFIBN for the heads up.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:02 PM
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8. It's 90 minutes long!
Should be outstanding.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:59 PM
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11. Yes, Frontline is great!
It's one of the few--hell, it's the ONLY news show with guts AND brains. I've been regularly amazed at the material they present and the depth of their research--have been since 1986, when they did an utterly scathing examination of Raygun's directionless "peacekeeping" effort in Lebanon that got 250 marines killed. They've gone from strength to strength over the years.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 09:13 PM
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12. all i know is a BIG shake up in the WH...rumsfeld on the outs and complete
reorganization going on...the WH is on the defensive and very nervous...rice now heading iraq reorganization and pissing rummy off BIG time...rummy says rice leak to secert info to NYTs?...i hear he is spitting bullets MAD!...ahahahahahahahaha :evilgrin:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:41 AM
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14. kick
:kick:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:40 AM
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13. Don't forget everyone
Looks like a good night for political junkies. I'll be watching two hours of debate coverage, and then on to PBS for Frontline.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:41 AM
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15. watch debat on one TV, tape on the other
thanks for the heads up!! I look forward to watching this get some legs.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:54 AM
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16. THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS
Finally. Can someone tape this for me?
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 07:49 AM
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17. Oh, yay
A reason to go on living here in the Bizarro World. And well timed! I need all the hope I can get. Too bad it has to be on PBS. Maybe one of those nasty liberal media outlets will pick up on it.
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:30 AM
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18. Thanks! I'll watch, will anyone else?
None of the average folks watch this show, just the news hungry and politically interested. Shame, it's always a well produced, in depth news show, but it's not "Dateline".
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:56 AM
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19. Yep....
I'll be there. Taping one, and watching the other!

Third TV, maybe I'll catch Spongebob Squarepants, just so my brain doesn't explode with all of this stuff!

:bounce:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:31 AM
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20. Kick n/t
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:00 PM
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21. Frontline and PBS really do have some excellent programs.
I am often impressed by some of the high quality stuff i catch on that program.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:30 PM
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22. kick
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:50 PM
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23. Bushco heads off to spread the word about the "good" we're doing in Iraq
and Frontline shows tonight on PBS.

Coincidence?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 02:56 PM
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24. The more questions raised about Iraq, the better. Get the information
out there and hope that enough of the American public will begin to see the light.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:17 PM
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25. OMG ...Thank you thank you thank you
:-)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:55 PM
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26. I will deffinately be watching
:hi:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:28 PM
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27. kick
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