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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:24 AM
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US Soldier: `How many more must die?'
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MOSUL, Iraq -- For more than six months I have participated in what I believe to be the great modern lie: Operation Iraqi Freedom.

After Sept. 11 and throughout the battle in Afghanistan, the groundwork was being laid for the invasion of Iraq. ''Shock and awe'' was the term used to describe the display of power upon the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom. It was to be a dramatic show of strength and advanced technology from within the arsenals of the American and British militaries.

`Shock and awe'

As I was preparing to take part in the invasion of Iraq, the words ''shock and awe'' rang deep within my psyche. Even as we soldiers departed, it seemed that these two great superpowers were about to break the very rules they demanded that others obey. Without the consent of the United Nations, and ignoring the pleas of their own citizens, the United States and Britain invaded Iraq. ''Shock and awe'' correctly described the emotional impact I felt as we embarked on an act not of justice but of hypocrisy.

As soldiers serving in Iraq, we have been told that our purpose here is to help the people of Iraq by providing them the necessary assistance militarily as well as in humanitarian efforts. Then tell me where the humanity was in the recent Stars and Stripes account of two children taken to a U.S. military camp by their mother, in search of medical care. The children had been unknowingly playing with explosive ordnance they had found and as a result were severely burned. The account tells how they, after an hourlong wait, were denied care by two U.S. military doctors. A soldier described the incident as one of many ''atrocities'' he had witnessed on the part of the U.S. military.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6967466.htm
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:28 AM
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1. Starting to smell, look, and feel, like Vietnam...
:grr:
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:33 AM
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10. Yup, I think I have seen "this part of the show" before. nt
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:30 AM
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2. These letters have been escalating lately.
Any soldiers on duty who attach their names to stuff like this are facing serious reprimand. It is a UCMJ court martial offense to speak out against US foreign policy while in uniform.

That is why brave men like this soldier deserve our utmost support. They are putting their livelihoods on the line to speak out against what they view as a grave injustice to the very oath that they took -- an oath that has proven quite hollow throughout the years.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:41 AM
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6. All they have to do is tell their story to Novak and they are safe...
:evilgrin:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:33 AM
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3. This is good stuff
Unfortunately, the questions Mr. Predmore asks would have better served the Republic if they had been asked a year ago, and answers demanded:

"I once believed that I served for a cause: 'to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.' Now I no longer believe that; I have lost my conviction, as well as my determination. I can no longer justify my service for what I believe to be half-truths and bold lies.

* * *

"My time is almost done. We soldiers have faced death in Iraq without reason or justification. How many more must die? How many more tears must be shed before Americans awake and demand the return of the men and women whose job it is to protect them rather than their leader's interest?"

____________________________

Every person who comes back from Iraq has already done outstanding and exemplary duty. But I would be so bold as to ask for one more thing from them, and I ask it not on my own behalf but on behalf of their comrades that don't come back from Iraq: Tell the story. Shout the story. Cry the story. But don't let the lies die. Keep them current, keep them in front of people's faces. And let's call the liars to account. They're raking in big bucks off the blood and the bones of those killed and maimed in Iraq. It's time they were held responsible.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:45 AM
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7. Jeff Paterson
Folks will remember this..

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A Message to Troops, Would-be Troops and Other Youth

By Jeff Paterson

In August 1990 I was an active duty U.S. Marine Corps Corporal. I was ordered to the Middle East -- the Gulf War was about to come. Four years prior -- thinking I had nothing better to do with my life -- I had walked into the Salinas, California recruiting station and told them to "put me where I was most needed." "What am I going to do with my life?" has always been a huge question for youth, and today, in the wake of the horror and tragedy of September 11th, this question has increased importance for millions of young people. No one who has seen the images will ever forget. In a scene as unreal as a Hollywood picture, a conflict reached into American reality in an unthinkable way. Copy clerks to admin assistants, restaurant workers to firefighters -- thousands of lives ripped away from friends and family. Now the television shouts, "revenge," "infinite justice," and "something must be done!" Wave a red, white and blue flag to ease the sorrow, to declare, "We're not going to take it." And, I might be like the youth who are going down to the recruiters now, if I hadn't spent those four years in the Marine Corps. Most of the time my unit trained to fight a war against peasants who dared to struggle against "American interests" in their homelands -- specifically Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Guatemala. I saw dire poverty in the Philippines; U.S. government-sanctioned prostitution rings to service the U.S. armed forces in South Korea; and unbridled racism towards the peoples of Okinawa and Japan -- where the standard response to a child waving a "peace sign" at us with his fingers was "yeaa, ha ha, two bombs little gook." I began to understand why billions of people around the world really do hate the United States -- specifically its war machine, covert "contra" wars, and the whole system of economic globalization that replaces hope with 12-hour days locked in sweatshops producing "Designed in the USA" exports. Faced with this reality, I began the process of becoming un- American -- meaning that the interests of the people of the world began to weigh heavier than my self-interest. When the U.S. launched the Gulf War, I realized that the world did not need or want another U.S. troop. Although they did not look much like me, I found I had more in common with the common peoples of the Middle East than I did with those who were ordering me to kill them. My Battalion Commander's reassurance that "if anything goes wrong we'll nuke the rag heads until they all glow" was not reassuring. Up against that, I publicly stated I would not be a pawn in America's power plays for profits, oil, and domination of the Middle East. I pledged to resist, and I pledged that if I were dragged out into the Saudi desert, I would refuse to fight. A few weeks later, I sat down on the airstrip as hundreds of Marines -- many of whom I had lived with for years -- filed past me and boarded the plane. I fought the Gulf War from a military brig, and after worldwide anti-war protesters helped spring me, we fought the war in the streets. But back then we failed to stop the war. Since 1990 over 1.5 million Iraqi people have died -- not mainly from the massive U.S. bombing which continues from the sky, but from a decade of economic sanctions. All the while the U.S. government has coldly declared that these Iraqi deaths are "worth it" in order to achieve strategic regional objectives. So today, as the U.S. government demands the world mourn with us for our loss, we in turn are expected to ignore the suffering that this nation produces. Every time the U.S. war machine is kicked into high gear, acknowledgements are made about past "mistakes": Gulf War sickness, Agent Orange and napalm in Viet Nam, massacres of refugees in Korea, U.S. troops used as nuclear exposure guinea pigs after World War II, concentration camps for Japanese- Americans during World War II. And always: "Trust us, this time it will be different." But it never is. One need not be a pacifist, a communist, a Quaker, or a humanist to oppose this war. However, it certainly helps to be an internationalist -- realizing that our collective future is bound up with the majority of humanity, and not with those who are taking this horrific opportunity to threaten war. For those woman and men now in uniform, you have a choice to make. Silence is what your "superiors" expect of you, but the interests of humanity require more. Think. Speak out. And if you make the choice to resist, there are hundreds of thousands who will support you -- many of whom have already taken to the streets to oppose this war. Like his father before him, Bush Jr. has drawn a line in the sand: "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." Simply put, the rulers of the U.S. see much unfinished business for their "New World Order." While we grieve, they announce that "the normal rules no longer apply" (translation: now is the time to settle our scores), and we have "a blank check to act, the nation is united" (translation: dissent will be ignored, or suppressed as required). Now more than ever, the people of the world are not safe from the U.S., and the people in the U.S. are not safe from the U.S. I will not wave the red, white and blue flag -- instead I'll wear a green ribbon in solidarity with immigrants and Arab Americans facing increasing racist attacks. Stop the War. Support the troops who refuse to fight. Let's dedicate our lives to changing this situation.

http://www.citizensnotspectators.org/paterson1.html
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:21 PM
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11. Casualty Count
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 01:25 PM by Say_What
137 American soldiers died in 43 days of the Iraq invasion. *

180 American soldiers died in 152 days since the end of the war.*

317 American soldiers died 195 days! *

1710 American soldiers wounded.

* As of 10-02-03

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx War Casualties (Broken down)

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/ Total Coalition War Casualties

and http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

"We don't do bodycounts.", General Tommy Franks, US Central Command



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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:36 AM
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4. Great letter, but it's been published before . . .
Several months ago actually. It appeared first in a Peoria, Illionois paper, then I saw it first in the LA Times.

I wish more people had the balls to speak out like this guy though.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:41 AM
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5. Yes, and it says that at the end of the Miami Herald column
And yet, strangely enough, for being printed all those times, we don't see it picked up nationally or any time devoted on ABCCBSNBCFOX to it. Gotta show more pictures of the Governator, you know. No time for men and women dying in Iraq. That's old news. Look! It's Maria Shriver!
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 10:50 AM
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8. the more papers who pick it up the better
n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 10:54 AM
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9. kick
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