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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:11 AM
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Yeah!! My property taxes went up!! woo hoo
Another 200 dollars a year. Add that big tax cut I got from the Federal govt.. NOT.. I'm paying more taxes than before... How can that be???? I'm supposed to have more money in my pocket to spend under Georgies plan!!

Sorry, I forgot - I'm just middle class here.. Not the RICH
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:14 AM
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1. Yep...That's Just What Ho-Ho Said Would Happen
can't wait to see my assessment. With no sales Tax in my starved state of OR, it's gonna be ugly
:mad:
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:21 AM
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2. Its simple,Bush is starving the States to pay for his cuts....
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 11:22 AM by OneTwentyoFive
You've just hit on what the average Joe Six pack can't grasp. Those people are so fucking stupid when Bush announces a BIG HUGE TAX CUT that they never look at the entire picture.

Sure,Murikans might get another 5 bucks on your paycheck but thats the last you'll see of it. Most likely it'll be gone when you fill up your vehicle,if you compare these historic highs that fuel has been at for years since Bush was President and compare them to what gas was going for under Clinton.

Property taxes go up on home and car,car registration go up,permit fees at area lakes go up by a buck or so etc,etc.... And yet these IDIOTS still think they got a tax break!!!

BTW,anyone checked their home insurance rates?? Ours keeps going up because these insurance companies are blaming it on 9/11. This will never end until Bush and his thugs are long gone.

David
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:28 AM
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3. I'm in California.. Arnold will surely fix this!
He said he wouldn't raise taxes and he'll get rid of the car tax too!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:34 AM
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6. Yeah, Gov Grouper needs to be held fast to his claims....
BTW,what is that "car tax" that was always talked about? Was it more property tax on your car or was it just an additional tax per car?

I know Davis was going to triple it,how much would that have been?

David
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:53 AM
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12. we pay a registration and license fee once a year
I guess it is kind of a property tax on the car. The tax went down a few years ago because the state had a surplus. However the way the law was written to allow the break in this tax.. was that it would go back up when the state ran a deficit. So, since we are in a deficit now the car taxes/licenses go back up.

But the repukes didn't give the whole story on this issue (shocking I know!) when they used it as a campaign tool. Most people assume Davis was just raising that tax but in reality it was gov. Wilson's provision to have it go back up that is doing this (as it should if we don't have the money to run the state).

the more expensive your car, the higher the tax. I have an older car so I don't get too hard. Those Hummer owners are surely getting it though.. ha
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:30 PM
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18. Also, add to this scenario the effect of 0% financing
and you have a LOT of people who bought cars for 38,500 when if they paid "normal" interest rates they would qualify for much less, like 22,000. The difference gets huge when you consider the registration.

That's a 75% difference in the example I just cited.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:31 AM
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4. Mine went up $170 a month
But I was able to offset it by refinancing my house, which lowered my payment nearly $100. Then I raised the rent on some rentals to cover the rest.


Cher
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:32 AM
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5. fl here
our county gas tax is going up 6 cents a gallon.....our water rates...cable....home insurance.....we didn't get a tax check..our kids are grown.....I'm going to retire to Canada!!!A few years to go
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outinforce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:36 AM
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7. Two Questions
1. You say you are going to retire to Canada. Last time I checked, Canada was rather picky about who it would let in to live there -- it was especiallypicky about older folks. What kind of Canadian visa will you get that will permit you to live there?

2. You live in Florida. Do you pay a State Income Tax?
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:09 PM
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15. we have
people all the time come from Canada and stay here 8-10 moths a year... they like the weather..all I'd have to do is travel back and forth once a year....Really haven't checked it all out yet but will let you know...No we don't have state tax..but we have very low wages compared to the other states....
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Zgrrl Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:39 AM
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8. I'm sure mine will go up too...
Our municipalities are really hurting, particularly police & fire. Our county jail is overcrowded and they want to build a new one. The school district is in the hole and needs to modernize about 15 schools.

My "tax cut" came out to about $7 a month. I can guarantee that my property taxes will go up more than $84 a year.

:mad:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:28 PM
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19. Hi Zgrrl!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:39 AM
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9. Mine went up too and many people here
Have their houses up for sale. Cannot afford it.
I might also have to put mine on the market. My mom filed for bankruptcy...shes 77 and its the medication or food for her now.
My brother lost his job, my sister lost hers (5 kids), and the only jobs in town now are flipping burgers or Wal Mart.
Thanks a lot Repukes!!
BTW...cutting firewood this year to get by because the gas prices are supposed to go up this winter in Michigan says the gas company.
Im closing off the upstairs and living next to the fireplace.
Im lucky I even have a fireplace. Other people just freeze to death, and there will be many more out in the cold this winter.
Another thing..NO christmas presents this Xmas..whole family wont do it, I wont do it. My son just about to lose the restaurant he just started (it was doing well,) thanks to the US National Guard lying to him and deciding to deploy him..
Yes, the Bush regime has f*cked us all in the arse mightily.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:42 AM
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10. What you don't like being trickled on?
I think you should pay a little more Cheney need a new rolls-royce. :sarcasm:
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:54 AM
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13. roflmao... trickled on economics....
just where trickle down economics leads to.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:48 AM
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11. But...but...but....
you got a TAX REFUND....right? There's going to so many people in your boat and I HOPE it sinks in.....the tax cut was not really a tax cut for the average citizen. Although,I don't know if the citizens of this country are smart enough to figure that out. :(
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:54 AM
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14. Mine went up $300 last year, but only $50 over that this year...
in *-land, its like getting a tax cut:)
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:19 PM
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16. Not only that
I bet if you live in one those states where there toll bridges and highways you never even counted the annual increases in the tolls a another tax. The loss of Federal revenues to the states under the Bush administration and the phony political sham of 'cutting taxes' has led more and more states to have to increase tolls (sometimes doubling and tripling) to help off-set these loss of revenues. And all the while, the working ditto heads don't even realize what's hitting them. They never even mention the outrageous price of gasoline now...it's just accepted...without reason. If a Dem were in the WH now there would long lines at gas pumps to further instill the hysteria among voters. As it is, there is really no gas crisis or shortage to warrant the increases we are paying. But the PROFIT margins for oil companies keep growing even as the pension funds for their workers dwindle.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:22 PM
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17. Ironic, isn't it?
We get a measly tax cut from the federal government, but because our state and local governments are so strapped, they have no choice but to screw us.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:31 PM
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20. When property taxes go up, individuals, not corporations feel the pinch
Most municipalities have given away so many property tax breaks to businesses (and the bigger the business, the more likely they're getting a break) that, I bet, when you see your property taxes go up, most of the rich companies in your municipality aren't seeing any increase. If the pulled their weight, your taxes would go up much less (IF AT ALL). In fact, your taxes would probably go down.
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