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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:05 PM
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I love John Edwards. He is so real. He would be a great President.
There are several really good candidates. I like Kerry and Clark. But Edwards connects. His compassion for others is the RIGHT thing that we need as a country now.
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:07 PM
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1. I've always liked Edwards
I think he would be a great candidate. I like him, Clark and Kerry.

He is the one who comes across as genuine.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:07 PM
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2. For my 400th post
I must agree. Edwards is "the goods."
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:07 PM
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3. He is great
So is Sharpton.
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:08 PM
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4. I can't agree.....
...he comes off as a used car salesman, or one of those lawyers who advertises on TV. There is nothing sincere about this man.

Dean is pugnatious and passionate, and sincere. Leiberman is sincere and good hearted, but dull beyond belief. sharpton is passionate and engaging, but has little credibility.

It's all a matter of opinion. Frankly, I don't like any of them.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:13 PM
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7. Nothing sincere?

A used car salesman? ...We don't need to be treating out own like this.

I guess they all suck. Hmmm. I am not in Dean's corner, but if he wins Im with him. I like Edwards and if YOU KNEW anything about the man (he is from the state I was born), you would know that he is VERY SINCERE.

He is a rising star in this Party and it took some real courage to vote the way he did coming from a Conservative State. He put his ass (and career) on the line, took a beating in the North Car press...yet still stands true.

Edwards may bump Kerry off the #1 spot if he can keep gaining momentum and Kerry keeps floundering.

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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:39 PM
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25. yes, I don't think he is sincere...
I know his past. His trial lawyer background isn't something I like. Making millions fighting big class action suits (as legit as they are) isn't endearing to me.

His star is fading, not rising. He recently decided, I think, not to defend his senate seat. That's not a star - my guess is he doesn't think he can retain his seat (I think he is wrong) and wouldn't want that blemish on his record.

He seems very hollow to me - I just don't believe in him.

It's just a matter of personal taste, really. He rubs me the wrong way, what can I say?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:43 PM
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:09 PM
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40. I may be wrong, but I'm not a liar....
...and my opinion remains the same. He rubs me the wrong way - nothing trustworthy about the guy, to me.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:22 PM
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42. lurker
grrrrrr
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:13 PM
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49. For christ's sake his parents were MILL WORKERS!
I suppose if one doesn't want to play "The American Dream" card that's fine but the man has street cred, period.
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:17 PM
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52. Can agree....
Dean is pugnacious...But..

Lieberman is just plain embarrassing and so....narcissitic? I, I, I,

Edwards is sincere...like a boy scout..and cute and cuddly....and would be a really great VP at this stage in his career.

And Clark is my great hope...but I don't know how he is going to find the time in this line-up to..as someone so eloquently put it...unload his brain. made me chuckle.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:09 PM
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5. The only one who is real is Sharpton
maybe Braun, the others just pander.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:12 PM
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6. kick
:kick:
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:54 PM
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36. VermontDem2004
I HOPE it happens!

A Cubs vs Sox series, I mean.
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anti-elitist Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:18 PM
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8. Edwards has no chance
I couldn't disagree more. Edwards has no chance. Personally, I don't want a "southerner" to run. I would go Green before I voted for Edwards or Kerry, both if which are corrupt white men and more likely to pander to the right.
Dean is our best bet.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:26 PM
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9. HUH?
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 08:27 PM by DiverDave
So you bring race into it?
I like Edwards. I think he is the most "real" person running.
So lay off on the racial statements, all it does is make you look foolish, or from the other side.
I am sending money to John Edwards, based on what I heard tonight, and before.
If he doesn't get the nomination, I will support the Democratic candidate, can you say the same?
On edit.
you say corrupt, got any evidence?
Show me...if you can.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:27 PM
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10. How is Edwards corrupt?
That's bullshit. Edwards is the one who puts the most fear in Rove's boots, and I believe he _will_ win the nomination and the presidency.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:29 PM
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:33 PM
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18. LOL!
Way to put a face on it.
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Castilleja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:51 PM
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34. Hahaha!!
made me laugh there........... ;)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:33 PM
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16. As Southerners Go
Edwards strikes me as the kind of "Southern Gentleman" that's nice to have around. I don't pick up the slightest whiff of arrogance off of him.




Yeah, I know, it's TV.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:33 PM
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17. Unbelievable

No wonder the Democrats DONT freaking win...Most of us are freaking psychos.

You call Edwards a corrupt, white man. Other than the fact he is white (race bating by leftists is NO MORE credible than by rightists)...Where is YOUR goddamn evidence that he is corrupt?

If this poster is WHO we are getting into the political foxholes with then BUSH will get another goddamn 4 years. This is bullshit to see this.

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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:34 PM
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19. Great 3rd post

By the way.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:36 PM
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20. Right. Don't run a southerner...were 60% of the electoral votes needed
to win are located...were 15 or so Dem senators are running for reelection and lookinf for coattails...where they produce politicians who are proven Bush-beaters...right.

Yes, you go vote, uh, was that "green" that you said?

Yes, you go do that.
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:24 PM
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44. ACTUALLY
The most corrupt person in the race is Al Sharpton.
http://www.realchange.org/sharpton.htm

And Mosely-Braun has a record to make even Chicago ward veterans blush. And funny, both of them are black! Is it because they are black? OF COURSE NOT. But, then I didn't post something like Sharpton being a "corrupt black man." Why did YOU bring race into it?

Edwards did great tonight.
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 05:34 AM
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63. What?????Go Green????
Then go. Why would you even bother to post this drivel?
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:27 PM
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11. Well, he's not my first choice for President,
but I wouldn't have any problems voting for him if he becomes the Democratic candidate.

Also, damn he's cute! I certainly could make him my boy toy. :-)
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:29 PM
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12. He just gave a great answer
to Union question.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:45 PM
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32. Not my first choice either,
but I'd willingly vote for him if he were the nominee. And, yes, he is cute. :)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:29 PM
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14. he has the right idea on taxes
clark and kerry do also.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:40 PM
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27. And he has a better grasp on middle/working class oppurtinity than the
others (OK, on par with Kucinich and Sharpton), and tapping into that is the only thing that's going to save this economy.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:31 PM
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15. Edwards is great
...on domestic policy but he is naive and inexperienced on national security matters. The pentagon and covert intelligence services need to be watched very closely, congress has totally given up on oversight. Clark, Kerry and Dean would all do better in this area.

I think Edwards is trustworthy but I think he could be taken advantage of because of his too trusting patriotism. I am very familiar with the Carolina trial lawyer type, and this is their major blindside. I'd love to have them with me in the courtroom or lobby plotting strategy but in labyrinthine ways of the corrupt defense and intelligence establishments they just don't recognize what they are dealing with.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:36 PM
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21. Then get a VP who is

Let Edwards clean up the mess in the US and bring in someone as VP to go world.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:16 PM
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51. I agree n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:38 PM
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24. Uh, the guy didn't become one of the best trial lawyers in the country by
not learning what he needed to learn and by being too trustworthy.

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:14 PM
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50. Actually, good country lawyers are trusting souls
I work with them every day. Yet, they don't miss a trick in civilian company. The trusting affect is not contrary to great effectiveness in the civilian jurisprudence or politics.

I have also worked inside the military for a long period and I can tell you that Edwards like other southern trial lawyers I know are naive when it comes to national security matters. They have a knee jerk response to patriotic and pro national security rhetoric. You know the kind that rarely fooled Clinton. Nobody's perfect. Dean is a quicker study on this subject area than Edwards, as he has already demonstrated. But I support just about everything Edwards says on domestic matters as plaintiffs pay my bills as well. I'd vote for him.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:36 PM
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22. Edwards had a great night.
The millworker daddy stuff usually sounds cheesy and pandering, but Edwards was surprisingly articulate and sincere tonight.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:41 PM
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28. Actually, he is almost always like that--
especially once you get past daddy. I think that was a mechanism to generate "brand-consciousness" if you will.

I don't catch him alluding to that anymore. Others can do that for him now.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:44 PM
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31. I thought Edwards was different.
Usually Edwards "panders" about his background, but when he answered the stinkbomb from Greenfield tonight, he came off almost unscripted and somewhat intellectual about it. I was impressed!
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:37 PM
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23. He doesn't have enough compassion
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:19 PM
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53. Think it is passion.
Hate to quote the idiot...Poppa Idiot...not the incumbent Idiot...but it's the vision thing.

That's missing.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:40 PM
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26. I also love Edwards
he's probably my second choice- he's really charismatic
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:44 PM
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30. If the Dean crowd

Can successfully talk me out of Kerry, Edwards is my man.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:56 PM
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37. Man, Kerry is great
don't let the crazy dean supporters get you down!
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:16 PM
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41. Thanks

It will all shake out. This episode tonight will pass into the night, but only if Kerry turns it around. Kerry, I fear, didn't make any grounds tonight.

I just hope the Deanies don't completely lose it if Kerry takes the nom...We don't need them sitting home in 2004. And they don't need Kerry people at home either.

I was anti-Dean for a while, but man...We gotta get this goddamn Bush out of DC.

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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:49 PM
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33. I like him a lot too.
I really love our current field. I think almost all of the are great candidates: Clark, Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, Braun and Kucinich, though I don't think the last two can win. Anyway, yes, I really like Edwards too.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 08:52 PM
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35. I think

An Edwards/Clark or Edwards/Cleland or (dare I say it) an Edwards/Dean ticket would rock.

Edwards/Dean would lack in foreign policy, but it would recharge the Deanies who will likely be drunk for the following year if their man doesn't win. :toast:
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:01 PM
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38. He's my pick for Vice-President...
paired with whoever wins the nomination.

I love him, too...but not for President...and not in these times.

It was not a good night for the General...although he did as well as could be expected...

Asa team? Clark and Edwards would rock.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:06 PM
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46. Clark/Edwards!
Thats what I'm hoping for right about now.
In my opinion, that'd be the perfect ticket. PERFECT!
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:07 PM
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39. Edwards would be a great president.
And the Dems would be lucky is he is selected as the Presidential candidate. I think he could beat Bush. He has a very appealing persona and I believe he is sincere.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 09:24 PM
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43. No doubt in my mind

Edwards can beat Bush. NO DOUBT AT ALL.

Can he get the nomination? I think he scored points tonight and is moving up. I called him a sleeper before his campaign even punched the alarm clock and I stand by it.
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:05 PM
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45. I can't figure out why Edwards isn't doing better?
Everytime I hear him speak I am always left shaking my head as to why this guy isn't fairing better. I always like what he has to say and I have to say he has that "Clinton Charisma" thing going for him as well. IMHO, he could be a much stronger candidate than he is at this point.

Are the folks running his campaign to blame for him not being able to get his message out? He never makes the news it seems. His Education Plan is very good. I esp. like the part of it he's calling "College for Everyone". That is something that you can tell is very important to him, being that he is the first one in his family to go to college.

I think his only weakness is that people will say he's weak on Foreign Policy. Which I don't think is fair because how much foreign policy experience did Clinton have before he was elected?

Even though I'm supporting Clark... out of everyone there tonight I have to admit Edwards is the only one I wanted to hear more from. I think he would be great on the ticket and I don't think in any way that his so-called "star" is fading. I think we are going to see many great things from him for our Party in the future.

Oh and as far as the "Southern" thing... being from the South I never get used to the biased attitudes towards us.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:10 PM
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48. Don 't Forget That Clinton Was On The National Scene For Over
a decade before he ran for president....

He gave the key note speech at the 88 Convention though some folks thought it was a stinker....

I think Edwards is hurt by his lack of experience and the trial lawyer tag*

* I have the utmost respect for trial lawyers .... They represent the little guy and even the playing field... That's why Pugs hate them...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:09 PM
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47. I have to agree- I did not like him at first....
...but he is getting better...the boy has been watching Clinton tapes, no?
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:24 PM
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54. Yep he's taking a course
in the Clinton School of Charisma. His personality is a huge asset that I think his campaign is wasting. For the life of me can't figure why they don't get him out there more.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:57 AM
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60. The media isn't covering him. He's out there.
He does great one on one.

Lots of practice with juries, probably.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:31 PM
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55. Always liked Edwards...
what a cutie:)

And so smart...just wish he'd waited 4 more years to give it a try...

I know we are comparing the * but for some reason people demand more experience in dems...

Off topic, I called his campaign a few weeks ago asking questions about his positions, they took down my name and phone number and address...I've received nothing from them...this is disappointing...I thought at least a brochere?
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:35 PM
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57. No response from his campaign either
Same thing happened to me. Didn't expect the man himself to call me back. LOL! But I have gotten absolutely no response. I think the people running his campaign are letting him down.

Like him or not Dean is proving what a well run campaign can do.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:55 AM
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59. Elizabeth Edwards responded to me personally TWICE!
I was impressed.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:55 AM
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58. On the website, you can get Real Solutions for America. And I 've
posted twice to an Elizabeth E. blog, and she's replied to me both times.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:33 PM
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56. Yes he's got a great conversational style, very personable. <eom>
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 04:53 AM
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61. I've liked him from the start and hope as the primaries heat up
he will get more attention. What a contrast he is to *--self-made, successful based on his own hard work and intelligence, compassionate, articulate...
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 05:17 AM
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62. I could support Edwrads w/o reservation!
He's not my 1st choice, but he would be a nomineee of which this party could be proud! :thumbsup:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:27 AM
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64. I think he's personable
and would work and vote for him if he won the nom. Even if he doesn't I hope our Dem president finds him a good spot. He could be an great asset to the new administration IMO.

Julie
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