The Bashing Judy Thread

[CoffeePlease1947]

This thread is to unleash on Judy Woodruff.

I don't mind her asking tough questions. But being rude, and showing that she is going to vote for Bush is not professional.

She would ask a question and not even let them speak 5 words people interupting with a new question.

She doesn't know what she is doing. That is clear. Go come Judy and let someone that knows how to run a debate do it. Also get out the way, she was blocking the shots of the candidates trying to speak.

Mike

[RichM]

1. I can't stand her - but Greenfield is even worse.

He openly asked something like "Don't you agree that the Democratic Party is out of touch with mainstream American values?" Jesus. What a scum he is.

Woodruff: Open expression of disdain & hostility on her face while speaking with various candidates. She probably didn't realize the camera caught that, on the reverse-angle.

[Cha]

3. "Don't you agree?" What a stupid stupid stupid question!

Please Dems don't get in that sitution again!



And will someone please tell me where the Dem debate thread #4 is?

It disappeared!

[Woodstock]

9. it's here still on page 1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=507432&mesg_id=507432

Do you have proud patriot on ignore? she/he started it

[DemCam]

38. Yes...

Hated that creep even more.

What the hay are we gonna do...if this is the only way our candidates can get exposure?

[catforclark2004]

51. Why oh why Judy - letter written to CNN

I am tired of writing nice letters....first I called them and left a long message, then I wrote my feedback comments:

Dear CNN:
RE: Democratic debate

Why was Judy Woodruff telling the Democratic candidates not to criticize President Bush?
Who is she to protect Bush?
Why did she interrupt everybody....and grunt thru their answers?
Why did she come up with the same attacks toward Wes Clark that he has had to answer since he entered the race?
Why didn't a front runner get the question about "a vision for America"?......that's the Democrats we wanted to hear from.
Why was she encouraging the candidates to attack each other, and not Bush?
Why did other candidates get to bash Bush and Judy told Wes Clark to shut up about it already?
Why was the fax from Kerry's staff allowed to make on stage? That was not professional at all!
Why is CNN attempting to tell us who our candidate should to be?
Why was Schneider who hates democrats...with his weasel smile....and Gergen, who obviously hates Wesley Clark allowed to discuss the debate? Who are they, and why do they know anything?

All in all the debate was not a debate but a Fool's fight. Woodruff appears to dislike every candidate and was putting herself too much in the mix. The question from the woman about the "spanish enconomy" was terrible.....Wes Clark should have gotten the N. Korea question...but was ignored...when Judy decided that had been covered. No, Judy, what was covered was you asking Clark about being a Democrat, blah, blah, blah....We wanted to hear more about N. Korea and Iran.

No wonder Fox gets more viewers...at least they have real debates. You guys are the laughting stock of the internet world and the progressive press. Total, total nonsense! I guess that why Arnold won.....you guys think we are all just stupid, I guess.

Love, Catherine

[Carolina]

53. What a whore Greenfield

is; hard to believe he once worked for and believed in Bobby Kennedy.
But the money and the Rove walking papers have gotten to him. He even piled on with repugs in the distortion and smearing of the Wellstone memorial per Al Franken's book. Gosh folks, we're in f***ing trouble with moderators like him, Candy Lardass, Judge Judy.

[59millionmorons]

2. She must of gotten a letter from Rove

Right from the top she squelched any and all attacks on Bush.

[Mz Pip]

4. Best moment was when

Sharpton stuck it to her by telling her that her interruptions should not be taken off of his time.

Can you imagine her doing this to Bush?

MzPip
:dem:

[markses]

22. Best Sharpton moment: "You're acting like Bush won. He lost!"

Oh, Lordy, did Judy the Whore get frazzled at that one!

[Woodstock]

23. HE also said "are you going to take this off my time"

When he barely got 3 words in edgewise, and she started challenging him.

Shut her up good.

[Cha]

33. Sharpton is so damn Sharp!

I wish we all could be articulate and eloquent and Quick like Sharp!

[Cha]

32. Yabba Dabba DU!

[Woodstock]

5. She was qutie simply AWFUL and a DISGRACE

She alternatively grunted, interrupted, or even carried on a separate conversation while the candidates spoke.

She even at one point told them not to criticize the pResident.

Aiding and abetting the dirty Kerry fax trick was beyond unprofessional.

She quite simply reeked.

[tabasco]

6. The Democrats need to provide moderators.

Although I was pleased with the candidates, I agree they should not be presented with biased moderators. There is little doubt that Woodruff and Greenfield are card-carrying media whores for the Bush cabal. Why do the Democrats tolerate this?

[ronzo]

13. Really...

This bunch was the worst yet...
Very disappointed.

[Clark Can WIN]

14. On the flip side..............

It does give them excellent practice for the crap they'll be up against in the GE.

But Woodruff was an ass.

On edit: The candidates did a good job of handling her.

[union_maid]

7. I though the debate kind of..sucked

How much more air could Lieberman suck up? No substantial questions to Clark at all. Questions to most of them that sound more like Fox talking points than thoughtful questions and no attempt to even out the time that each candidate got. I'm really disappointed about the way it was run.

[Woodstock]

24. PBS did it best

They are a class act.

[bleedingheart]

8. geez...I started a new thread without seeing this one! sorry...

moderators can shut mine down... I apologize...

[Hippo_Tron]

10. Geez, what happened to the good ol' days?

When you could fire somebody like Judy because she got old and ugly...

[Papa]

19. that comment was a little mean

but I laughed my ass off when i read your remark. good one.

[Cha]

31. she's Uglier on the inside....

[Feanorcurufinwe]

11. On CNN Radio during the break she was screaming

I DON'T HAVE A HAND MIRROR!

I CAN'T FIX MY HAIR!

I CAN'T FIX MY LIPSTICK!

over and over and over

:P

[Dude_CalmDown]

41. Could you elaborate?

I guess I missed that but was she screaming and did not know she was still on a live feed through radio?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

44. Yep that's what it sounded like.

She can't have realized it was going out. She sure sounded freaked out about her hair and lipstick. I was ROFL

:P

[Name removed]

46. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Name removed]

56. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[KittyWampus]

12. Freaking FOX Does A Better Debate W/ LaRouche Freaks

Un-freaking believable!

[0rganism]

58. Damn, I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder

Sweet Jeebus, can't we get a normal debate anymore?

[quaker bill]

15. What a bozo

In fact I am doing Bozo a grave injustice here.

My problem with Judy is that she did not seem to understand when the candidates actually answered her questions. She seemed to be laboring under the misconception that she was almost as smart as any one of the candidates.

Wrong!

[Name removed]

55. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[union_maid]

16. I did e-mail CNN

I know they don't care, but I wanted to express my disappointment about the way that they handled it. I really expected a lot better.

[gully]

37. Agreed, it was the 'sloppiest' debate ever.

They had no method to the madness. I think the candidates should refuse to go to CNN after that fiasco.

[ReadTomPaine]

17. Actually she does know what she's doing and that's even worse.

More than once she attempted to incite them to rip into each other, and more than once she tried to explicitly frame questions so they didn’t criticize Bush with their answers. She should take her Bush-brand kneepads off when she gets to work. Don’t hold your breathe though.

I would have loved to see John King, personally.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

42. Right off the top she made her intentions known.

"No Bush-bashing. Bush is God...now come out fighting!"

[Avalux]

18. It was her show

all about her; Miss Pinch Face. Interrupting constantly; trying to talk over the candidates; acting as if she was some sort of an authority. She should have worn a cheerleader outfit emblazoned with GOP. I'm not a Dean supporter, but her sideswipe with the Kerry document was really shitty.

I'm emailing CNN. Not because it will do any good, but it will make me feel better.

[Clete]

20. What's with all these DINO news people?

Both she and Chris Matthews are supposed to be Democrats. Is that the news networks version of "fair and balanced"?

[Woodstock]

26. There is no way either are Democrats - that's just Rethug tactics

They are no more Democrats than Teresa LePore was.

[Cha]

34. "theresa lapore"...hmmm? now you're telling me she wasn't

a dumb democrat?

[wildwww2]

48. Lapore was origanally a Repuke who became a Dem to get elected

and help Bu$h Inc. steal the election. Now she calls herself an Independent. She was and is always a Bu$h Inc. mole if you ask me.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[Individualist]

21. Her blatant hostility

toward the candidates was disgusting. The expression on her ugly face made me want to hurl. :nuke:

[Cha]

35. It would be nice if she were held accountable for that.

[Bread and Circus]

25. Judy sucked ass and here's why....

Basically, she was trying to hush criticism of
Bush. To hell with her. Like others have said
she didn't know what the hell she was doing.
However, she never does. She is terrible.
I can't watch her for 2 seconds no matter what
the format or whenever she is on.

Greenfeld is a dork and Crowley gives me election
2000 PTSD flashbacks.

It's no wonder CNN gets beat by Fox even if fox
is Right Wing Pravda.

[JasonBerry]

27. Coffee is right about this!

No question that Judy Woodruff says more with her eyes and body language than any other "journalist" I watch.

[SadEagle]

28. Al Sharpton for Moderator!

Seriously, if he wasn't running for president I think he'd be great at moderating.

[union_maid]

29. He would

I'd like to nominate him for press secretary to the next president. He'd be great.

[DrFunkenstein]

30. Bad Lighting, Bad Sound, Shaky Cameras, Rude Mods

Seriously, how much crappier could this thing get?

There was a hollow echo and a squeaking for all the candidates, the lighting hollowed out their faces, the shaky cameras made them look like the Blair Witch, and the moderators were smug to begin with and rude to finish with. They encouraged - no begged - for divisiveness, and interrupted whenever someone actually began to talk about real policy differences.

Woodruff would walk away from the candidates as she was answering the questions, forcing them to talk to her moving back - which was visibly distracting for the candidates.

I have a thousand misogynistic words to use for her right now, none of which I will say out loud.

Plus - pulling out the Kerry fax just when the Dems had a achieved a positive, even visionary tone, was unfair to both Dean and Kerry (who was visibly unhappy).

[DemCam]

36. How can we count the ways?

Hated almost everything about her....

hated her pulling the talking points on Clark...

hated her interrupting....

hated her interrupting the responses...for time supposedly...

hated her walking across the stage during answers...

but HATED GREENFIELD MORE!!

[bleedingheart]

39. WRITE THE WHORE and tell her what you think of her

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/

I did and I feel much better now.

[DrFunkenstein]

40. See Post #30 About Misogyny

n/t

[bleedingheart]

43. The term can apply to men or women equally...

and given MediaWhoresOnline...that is why I use it in this case.

In addition...from Dictionary.com

"mi·sog·y·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-sj-n)
n.
Hatred of women: “Every organized patriarchal religion works overtime to contribute its own brand of misogyny” "

My use of the word Whore is not a result of hating women...as I am a women and I generally love my fellow men and women...

[grasswire]

45. my letter (I tried to be reasonable)

I realize that it is very hard to pull off an informational *debate* with nine candidates on stage and less than ninety minutes.

However, Ms. Woodruff's performance was particularly ineffectual. From the get-go, a negative attitude emanated from her. She and her CNN sidekicks could not get away from one unsubstantiated premise; that Democrats are losing the minds and hearts of Americans. Question after question implied and asserted this false premise.

And so the evening was framed. And Woodruff scowled and prodded and participated in ambushes but failed to meet what she often claimed was her purpose -- to show differences between the candidates.

It seems fairly clear that the nation is not better informed after this session than it was before, except for what was revealed about Woodruff's ability as a big-league moderator.

[0rganism]

47. Never thought Crowley would be the BEST of the three

Damn, though, Candey was reasonably coherent and precise in asking her questions, and above all SHE DIDN'T INTERRUPT THE CANDIDATES.

Woodruff and Greenfield showed themselves as utterly unqualified for this kind of work.

Very simply put, this was NOT a debate. It was a chaotic flamefest that falsely advertised itself as a debate. I've seen more polite "debates" in unmoderated arguments on IRC. Shout out to Al Sharpton (!) for being witty, polite to the other candidates, and directly confronting bitch judy's attempts to shut people down.

[hedda_foil]

49. You're right. Crowley was by far the best of the three.

It was almost as if she thought her job was to ask illuminating questions. What COULD she have been thinking?

[KittyWampus]

50. Thanks Everyone For Doing This Thread

I was just SOOOO mad!

Dean should of taken Judy and put HER in a headlock and proceeded with the nuggies.

[0rganism]

57. Maybe next cycle, Jesse Ventura will be running and he'll do that

That's what the Democratic candidates need, more pro-wrestlers.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

52. Here's what I wrote to CNN

Judy Woodruff did a lousy job of moderating the debate. She interrupted the candidates, gave some candidates more time than others, told them not to bash Bush (Democrats can't bash Bush?), tried to egg them on to insult one another, did not ask candidates questions about their strongest areas of expertise, and worst of all, acted as conduit for an ambush of Gov. Dean, purportedly with a fax from the Kerry campaign. (I am not a Dean supporter--he's about fourth on my list, but that was a dirty, unprofessional trick).
The debates were much better when the League of Women Voters ran them.
Oh, and why did you have Jeff Greenfield, who indulged in spacey Democrat-bashing questions, when you had no one who was equally pro-Democratic on the panel?
CNN, you get a C- for this debate.

[ReadTomPaine]

54. If we ever see enough Dems in congress and the White House again...

A Fairness Doctrine revival is all but assured. Tonight's debate on what is considered the more Democratically leaning of the major news networks has shown to the leaders of the party just how bad it has gotten, firsthand. I could see them seethe at times due to the bias. It's become a matter of survival and they know it.

[RichM]

59. Here is my email to CNN -

Dear CNN,

I watched the Democratic candidates' debate tonight, & want to tell you that your moderators Judy Woodruff and Jeff Greenfield both behaved outrageously & unprofessionally. Usually I dislike Candy Crowley, but she was the best of the lot tonight -- mainly because the other 2 were so ghastly.

Woodruff was openly hostile towards many of the 9 candidates, & seemed to think the debate was ALL ABOUT HER. She didn't understand that no one cares one whit what she thinks; her job is to facilitate discussion, then get out of the way. At one point she forbade candidates to criticize President Bush, who is well-recognized the whole world over as a gangster, a liar, and war criminal. How can you forbid his political opponents to criticize him? What is this, Stalin's Russia?

Mr. Greenfield asked one "question" that boiled down to, "Don't you agree that the Democratic Party does not have mainstream American values." What kind of question is that? That's like "When did you stop beating your wife."

Your unprofessional crew was also unfair in its allotment of time to the different speakers. Mr. Kucinich and Mr Sharpton - the most interesting of the 9, in many ways - got only about one minute each.

If you ever sponsor another debate, I hope you will make an effort to replace these outrageously biased, hostile & conceited "moderators" with people more interested in doing the job, & less interested in injecting their own vulgar opinions onto center stage.

Sincerely,
....

[Myra]

60. I could not believe what a belligerent whore she was

No one could go 20 seconds without being
interupted by that hectoring bitch.

Just jaw dropping.
I wish they'd all lined up and told her
to go (back) to hell.