I was insensitive about Sharpton

[jiacinto]

And I apologize. I thought about it and my post about Sharpton was wrong. I am not a fan of the man, but he did sound more credible that I had thought.

[gully]

1. Yes you were Carlos...and you know I'm in your corner much of the time

Sharpton has been a necessary voice at ALL of the debates. He is a most brilliant man.

And, yes I'm aware of Tawana Brawley... So what? All of our candidates have their baggage.

[jiacinto]

2. I see your point

I should not have been so divisive.

[KittyWampus]

3. Sharpton Made A Decision To Use His Gift

at Oration and rousing people for the greater good. I firmly believe that he has grown since the TB incident.

Even Jesus was tempted by Satan.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I Moved On A Long Time Ago....

but I wonder why politicians are so reluctant to say they made a mistake.....

[Renew Deal]

I am just glad you didn't get tombstoned.

You probably would have if you had under 100 threads.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I Wonder How Many High Post Count Posters Have Been Tombstoned

I can get abrasive within threads....

but I will never start a flame thread....

[kodi]

11. a lot.

.

[DrWeird]

19. I figure it's like Susan Lucci at the Daytime Emmys.

A person can only get so many nominations.

[Name removed]

22. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[youngred]

26. Not really

but if that's what you want to think :eyes:

[0rganism]

27. You should discuss that with the admins, if you haven't already

That kind of behavior from a forum moderator is inexcusable. It's one thing to pull someone for trolling, quite another for disallowing support for two of the candidates in the primary.

[youngred]

31. I would Highly doubt the veracity of that

As a former mod I know its bullshit. The person was more than likely banned for having broken the rules multiple times

[DrWeird]

29. Pardon my French, but what the fuck are you talking about?

If you've been banned twice, it's because you broke the fucking rules numerous times, despite warnings.

And who the fuck do you think you are to groundlessly accuse the mods of racism?

You've probably been banned because of that. Well good fucking riddance.

You'd think after being banned twice that people like you aren't welcome here.

[Terran]

49. Having been a moderator

I seriously doubt that what you're saying is true.

And if you've been banned twice, what are you doing here now?

EDIT: Oops, already banned, I see. Good.

[Wonk]

51. re: banned twice before, check greenwow's profile. nt

[Renew Deal]

53. Banned three times now.

I checked his profile. He is gone.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. O K Son

Take a time out and come back tomorrow...

Dad

[RichM]

7. I can't bear to see you being so hard on yourself. After all, you only

said, "Sharpton. He doesn't look as scummy as I thought he would look." That's not really so objectionable, is it? I mean, there's probably an element of racism in it - but hell, no one's perfect.

I must protest. You should stand your ground. You said what you honestly believed. Don't let the libruls intimidate you with their unrealistic fantasies of "correct behavior." Most Americans, after all, would support your earlier statement. That makes it right.

Er, doesn't it?

[Paragon]

12. I guess Carlos blew his shot at the open seat at NFL Countdown

;-)

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. I was going to ask what he said

Wonder what prompted that comment?

[Mel]

8. I missed it

and I won't go looking for it but I say at least you are apologizing and that takes class. I think Al showed a lot of that tonight when he spoke out for Edwards. I cheered him if you want you can read my run down on my thoughts at this thread: 'And the winner of tonight's debate: George Bush' :puke: not my title.

[mhr]

9. I Have A Dream!

My Perfect Candidate:

One part Sharpton's oratory
One part Dean's popularity
One part Clark's military experience
and
One part Kucinich's policies

One can dream, still!

[Julien Sorel]

10. I just read your comment.

One bad turn doesn't deserve another in this instance, so I'm not going to comment further, except I will say that if you don't see what Sharpton brings to the table, you aren't half as smart as you obviously think you are.

[jiacinto]

13. I actually do

I just can't forget about what happened with the Tawana Brawley case.

But I do commend him for registering new voters and being direct in his speaking.

The point I originally trying to make was the he didn't look the Sharpton from the past.

[Lars39]

14. You managed to start about 7 or 8 threads within about a 3 minute span.

Your threads kept shoving the debate thread down while the debate was still on. Distraction and busy work for DU. So what's a little apology among friends, eh?

[jiacinto]

15. That wasn't my intention

I had questions about topics that interested me. I didn't know that GD was just meant for discussion about the debates. I thought GD was an open ended forum.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. It Seemed You Were Using The Board To Free Associate

I was beginning to worry about you....

[NaMeaHou]

20. To free associate is to

give random responses. This was a deliberate attempt to disrupt the board during an important time for many democrats. The mind numbing thread titles and insignificant one sentence body text was done quickly - with malice and aforethought.

Even this thread is disingenuous. A poor pity me thread on GD?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Maybe It's A Cry For Help

We should be here to provide our friend with an intervention...

That's what friends are for....

[Wonk]

32. Maybe Carlos is trying to race towards post #24,000?

Because we all know how very very important the quantity of posts you've made is compared to the quality of posts you've made :eyes:

Oops, I played the race card ;-)

[Terwilliger]

38. *cough*bullshit*cough*cough*!

[noiretextatique]

54. LMAO...but i have a lot of faith in carlos *cough* really

:hi: carlos...glad you apologized. what's that saying...it's not the mistakes you make that determine character, but how you deal with them. and your comments were offensive, not insensitive, as someone else mentioned, but your apology is an indication that you actually are growing, as much as you may not like that :thumbsup:

[Terwilliger]

55. I think the apology was probably...

mandated by an admin, because he was probably close to being banned for starting a series of bullshit threads all at once. His attack on Sharpton just the last bit of lunacy before they told him to cool it.

[noiretextatique]

56. no doubt...but whatever the source of enlightement

i encourage it :hi:

[JasonBerry]

18. I THINK

After reading your statement in the first thread again, I think you are right to apologize, but only because you used the wrong word. I think a lot of people took it to mean you thought he didn't LOOK (as in appearance) "scummy" tonight. You really meant he didn't sound or come off as scummy. That's how I took it all along. After reading what you actually wrote again - I can see the need for apology. But, I also think you were treated very poorly by many in this community that I wouldn't have expected to play "thought police." There's nothing WRONG with thinking Sharpton is on the seedy side - I think his record proves that. But, I would have phrased it differently and it's clear you realize that now as well. It is big of you to apologize. Rest easy now, Carlos.

[Andy_Stephenson]

21. Carlos I am so glad you started this thread!!!

I was afraid you would miss my response to the Sharpton thread. Now...to the iggy bin.


I would observe that Carlos has gotten what he was longing for tonight. Unfortunately I have to gratify him more to say so. After tonight I am going to ignore Carlos. In the 2.5 years I have been here...I have never put anyone on ignore. Not even for a day or two. Congratulations Carlos. 1st on the ignore list.

This is hard as I am usually VERY tolerant person, but you push all my buttons. Despite your protestations to the contrary, I think you are a DINO. I have never heard you espouse anything remotely Democratic. In my observation you have been condecending, rude and obnoxious to me and others on more than one occasion. You have insulted me called me a "conspiracy theorist", idiot, etc etc etc.

I know your itching to hit alert! Go ahead. But after this reply you go to the iggy bin and I will never remove you from it. Ta Ta enjoy florida! Stay on that side of the country mmmmmmkay.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=507399&mesg_id=508484&page=

[jiacinto]

23. Your criteria for what a "real Democrat" is so high that

most registered Democrats are "DINOs" to you.

Well, if you want to put me on your ignore list, go right ahead. I'll put you on mine. That way I won't ever read your posts and you won't ever read mine.

You claim to be tolerant, but you really aren't to people who don't agree with you. As for me being "condascending, rude, and obnoxious" you have acted in that manner toward me on several occasions here. But I do know that your clique of DUers will rush to you--like a pack of wolves--to join you in attacking me.

I could care less if you put me on ignore. As for "never hearing me espouse anything remotely Democratic" your litmus tests are so high that most Democrats don't even pass them.

Have a good life, though. And now you go on my ignore list too. No hard feelings. That way we both can mutually avoid each other.

[Solomon]

28. You made me change my avatar ba ck to Sharpton.

:grr:

[Paragon]

37. Outstanding idea!

Thanks! ;-)

[Paragon]

30. Well, that was short and sweet

The "humble" Carlos lasted 22 posts. Could be a new record.

I think I see a pattern:
1. Make stupifying inflammatory statement.
2. Whine that all replies are "personal attacks".
3. Repeat.

[DrWeird]

35. You forgot "numerous weird inappropriate thread topics"

followed by "numerous pleas for pity"

You may insert in any order.

[0rganism]

33. Know what? I took Carlos *off* ignore a long time ago

I may disagree with 90% of what he says, but about half of it is actually pretty sound. He has some solid opinions about electoral politics in this country that are worth thinking through. Plus, he makes enough significant contributions to numerous threads that you will get confused when his posts start disappearing. Having him on ignore is actually more annoying and less interesting than risking his more caustic attacks.

So you may find yourself taking him off ignore pretty soon, too.

[DrWeird]

36. You know, I did the same thing.

More like rubbernecking in my case.

[Paragon]

41. Same here.

I love watching the inmates run the asylum.

[Terwilliger]

39. So the 6 one-word threads were sound?

[0rganism]

58. Re-read my post!

I didn't say everything he posted was worth reading, let alone sound. Maybe half are. Clearly those six are in the other half, but at the very least, you can't really launch too many personal attacks in six one-word posts.

[w13rd0]

25. I forgive you...

...but I swear, I'm going to cybersmack the next person that says Sharpton is "articulate". Granted, when comparing one to George Bush, saying one is articulate by comparison is, well, small praise.

Sharpton is a passionate speaker, who clearly states many things that desperately need to be said in a nation where these issues have been "shoved under the cover" where we hide all our nations ugly past history.

[eileen from OH]

34. I missed what you said that was so insensitive

but I would strongly suggest that anyone who thinks the Tawana Brawley incident is "in the past" do a google search of the name Steve Pagones. Tawana has disappeared but this man is still here and his life was ruined by Sharpton. Really, he ruined this man's life. If Sharpton is merely comic relief, I'm with ya. But if you think he's more than that, if you think he somehow represents African Americans in this country, think again. With all the splendid African American role models in this country it is a travesty that this man has emerged as a spokesman.

I laugh along with everyone else when Al lets loose with a zinger. But I also remember that statesmanship is more than one-liners, and that the past DOES matter, and that if you embark on a personal quest to ruin someone else, you have a fundamental flaw as a human being.

eileen from OH

[Mandate My Ass]

40. IMHO Al S. brings alot more than one liners to the debate

The thread carlos started was not only insensitive, it was downright inflammatory and it followed a series of nonsense threads designed to knock the debate threads off the front page.

[jiacinto]

42. That was not my intent

I was not trying to "disrupt" threads about the debate.

That's a completely baseless accusation.

[Mandate My Ass]

44. Let's read my post again shall we

Where did I mention anything about your intentions? Where did I accuse you of anything?

Answer: I didn't.

[jiacinto]

46. I apologize for misunderstanding you then

nt

[JasonBerry]

47. Monica: Right Here

Why did you post you didn't accuse him of anything?

"...it followed a series of nonsense threads designed to knock the debate threads off the front page."

To me, that's an accusation.

[markses]

43. You weren't "insensitive"

You were offensive.

[ComerPerro]

45. Hey, it happens

I respect you for posting this.

And I respect you for always sticking around, after all the shit you recieve.

[ShaneGR]

48. I hope you burn in HELL for eternity!

Just kidding


















:)

[Terwilliger]

50. Mutt? Meet Jeff...

:eyes:

[GOPBasher]

52. It happens.

It's good to apologize when you've realized you're wrong. Now I think a lot of people on this board should apolgize to you for shit they say to you.

[Dr Fate]

57. We still like you anyway...

!!!