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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 03:31 AM
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One thing that bother me about Rush coming clean
Edited on Sat Oct-11-03 03:32 AM by Norbert
I heard his apologists like Hannity and Rush's stand-in praising Rush for admitting his drug dependency and at the same time taking a swipe at Clinton (at least Rush didn't say "I didn't swallow").

Mind you I hope he can clean up his act because he has a long road to travel. But lets face it, the only reason Friday's show even transpired as it did is he got found out. His secret dark life became public. Had this not became public he would be popping pain killers like candy for several more years.

Rush Limbaugh is no Betty Ford.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 03:39 AM
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1. I Don't Care If He's Addicted for Life
Funny to see how the conservative fall all over themselves about poor Rushie's 'disease' after being so gung-ho for mandatory minimum sentences for minor drug use.

I'm pissed off because I'm someone who takes some of those drugs for a serious, painful chronic condition. People like him just make it harder for those with painful diseases to get adequate pain relief.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 03:42 AM
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2. He doesn't like people with bones in their noses!
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 05:37 AM
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3. Bill Hicks once said...
(paraphrasing) "anyone that far to the right is hiding a deep, dark secret". Even from the grave, Bill still makes sense.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 05:52 AM
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4. Meanwhile...Tommy Chong Reports to Prison
Tommy Chong Reports to Prison
Zap2it.com - 12 hours ago
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - California residents can sleep soundly
tonight. Actor-comedian Tommy Chong is reportedly behind bars. ...
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 06:26 AM
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5. I read that the other day -- 9 MONTHS Tommy...
What the hell....sentanced to 9 months and my guess is that Pigboy will walk with probably less than a slap on the wrist.

Justice is blind?? Bullshit,when was that??

David
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 06:43 AM
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6. Unfortunately, our Justice system...
has been skewed for so long it is no longer recognizable.

This is more of a system of vengeance and showmanship. Like was stated in the original post, Rush only went into detox because he got caught. There is nothing of nobility in that; and he will get out of being charged because he has money, and a 'name'. Anyone of lesser social status would be looking at the possibility of a very long prison stretch.

Justice is not only blind, it is deaf and dumb as well.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 06:53 AM
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7. Most prosecutors...
... have larger priorities than prosecuting simple users, especially those who voluntarily enter detox programs prior to the filing of charges. We would all like to see Rush get what we feel is his comeuppance, but it is unlikely to happen. At best, the prosecutor may put the squeeze on Rush for dteails, names, etc.; the extremely remote chance exists that Rush MAY be made an example of, however.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 06:57 AM
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8. i spoke with our local DA last weekend and he said the same thing.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:22 AM
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10. That exactly where I got my information, too!
Edited on Sat Oct-11-03 07:23 AM by Padraig18
She said, "Some cases just aren't worth it, especially if it gets someone into treatment. Treatment is the only thing that actually has a chance of 'solving the problem', in the long run. Every other approach is just punitive 'warehousing' that costs a lot of money and solves nothing."

What a progressive thing for a Republican to say, I thought.
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:17 AM
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9. Sucess rate only 15% ?
When it comes to opiate addiction , and most fall back into the same type of addictive behavior within a year of release from any program ! I know from a very close personal friend that has this same problem .Putting people like this in jail and forcing them to come off opiates cold turkey is what Rush said B/4 this came out ,we should do to people that optain drugs illegally ! In this country many addicts have that exact thing happen them , some even die while in prison withdrawing .There have been large lawsuites paid by prision systems that ignore how seriouly sick the person is .Some commit suicide while in jail. If I was a cold blooded as Rush, I would say lock him up and let him cold turkey off .However knowing just how terrible and cruel this is I would not wish this kind of treatment on an animal ! As I stated earlier most go back to using within a year .The best thing for some of these addicts is MMT (Methadone Mainteince Treatment) There are private pay methadone clinics and they have saved many lives .We still have to work on the prison systems not torturing addicts by throwing them in jail and not treating this sickness, its cruel and unusual punishment plain and simple !
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:27 AM
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11. I'm Getting Rushed Out
And that comes from someone who lost a job thanks to Rush.

These aren't appoligsts, they are ABETTERS. By not only buying into Rush's "Prescription Medication" addition (as opposed to calling it as it is...a serious barbituate habit), but making Rush into a martyr/victim, they're condoning the activities they called for the most severe punishement.

I'd love to pull a Boortz or Scarborough or even a Coultergeist (I'd need a hazmat suit for this one) aside and just play their words back to them. Whenever they try to diferentiate Rush from someone else, out comes the anal probe and several thousands watts. Anyone wanna buy tickets?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:23 AM
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15. How much are the tickets?...
If I offer a few extra bucks, (hint-hint), can I push a button or two?


I sincerely hope that everyone with an addiction problem gets help....but it is the blatant hypocrisy that aggravates me. I ti saways those with the bigget mouths that wind up using what they decried for so long. Just like Falwell asking the ACLU to step in on a land/tax deal. You'd think Falwell would have ponied up for his own lawyer, but he got the ACLU to help him out because he's a fraud and a hypocrite. The condecending attitude goes down for a while, but it will surface shortly, you can't keep hatred buried for long.


:grr:
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:29 AM
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12. How much was his medical condition a cause or an excuse?
People keep talking about how he "came clean" and took responsibility but it seemed that his confession was full of excuses and false justifications. For example, he talks about an unsuccessful spinal operation and, later, a herniated disc. I doubt it. Besides many others, as Rush would say, have gone through these operations without turning into junkies. Secondly, there is little doubt that Limbaugh checked himself into rehab not on his doctor's advice but on his lawyer's. He's only coming clean because he got busted and has no other choice. Thirdly, I found it evasive that he still kept referring to the drugs he was taking as "medications", even though he hadn't taken these drugs as medications in six years. Limbaugh is a lying hyprocrite even when tries to tell the truth.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:43 AM
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13. This We Don't Know
Right now we have Rush's word that he had these ailments. No doctors have come forward, no medical reports...we don't even have any specifics on any hospitalization.

This the leap is to assume he got hooked for the actual treatment of physical pain. He's in deinal! And now hiding away to save his bacon.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:57 AM
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14. Yep,wouldn't you think botched surgery on Limbaugh would have been news?
I think its total BS like his excuse for getting out of the draft. If a surgeon really botched the surgery so bad as to make Rush a junkie I think somewhere along the line we would have heard volumes about it.

David
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:28 AM
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16. Not just that...
but think of the despised "trial lawyers" that would have made "excess profits" off of the law suit. Another hypocrite caught in his own filth.

I recall that bush in TX, made it a point to 'cap' injury awards, and a few weeks after the bill came in to law, one of the main proponents of this law had an accident of some kind, and was limited to the cap he had pushed; even though his lawsuit was for the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Irony is sweet

:bounce:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:32 AM
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18. When Rush Got Scared...He Went To A Democrat Trial Lawyer!
:bounce:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:40 AM
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19. ROFLMAO!!!!!...
that's right!

Damn liberal trial lawyers!

Hope he charges $500+ an hour.


:bounce:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:30 AM
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17. Rush would have spoken about it himself....
He was always talking about his physical ailments to his listeners and all his personal plans, as for golf trips, who he was going to meet with this weekend, etc. I doubt the veracity of his story.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:48 AM
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20. You'd better believe it
In any case, he used ear pain, not back trouble, to entreat his maid to resume scoring for him after his first detox session.

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/television/6917984.htm
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