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DemocratSinceBirth
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:33 AM Original message |
Can Someone Please Explain To Me Plato's Allegory Of The Cave |
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
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rusty charly
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. the people in the cave |
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logokopp
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. Think: Matrix or Truman Show |
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Jack Rabbit
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. The Truman Show is an excellent example |
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newyawker99
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Sat Oct-11-03 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. Hi logokopp!! |
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Tikki
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. If you have NEVER been exposed..... |
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hedda_foil
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. And it's this interpretation that the Straussians have adopted. |
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izzie
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Leo Strauss? |
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Classical_Liberal
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Plato suggested many options and the neocons chose the dark |
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SpiralHawk
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. What you see is what you see |
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GR
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Sat Oct-11-03 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. This Is Similar To Korzybski's "The Map Is Not The Territory" |
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kodi
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. or alan watts' "the menu is not the meal" when referring to zen buddhism |
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KittyWampus
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Sat Oct-11-03 04:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Oh, I'd Forgotten Alan Watts |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. in a nutshell |
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Ivory_Tower
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Sounds like you're describing television. |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. BINGO! read my sig line |
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JohnyCanuck
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. TV and propaganda |
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Ivory_Tower
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Sat Oct-11-03 04:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. I just looked at that site |
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Jack Rabbit
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Let's take that a step further for the benefit of our friend |
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TahitiNut
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. It's a way of portraying the ephemeral of "Truth" or "reality". |
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bhunt70
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. You all get A's |
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TahitiNut
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Thanks! Only about 12 credit hours from the Jesuits ... |
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KittyWampus
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Sat Oct-11-03 04:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. The Cave Analogy Explains How Occultists "See" |
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salmonhorse
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
12. People are Sheeple ~ |
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izzie
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Is this the same as being taught that WW1 was war to end all wars? |
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salmonhorse
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Sat Oct-11-03 08:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. Ee-yup ~ |
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Why |
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screaming_meme
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Because The Cave is something someone should read |
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charlie
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. So you're positive he didnt' read it? |
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Sat Oct-11-03 12:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Sheeesh |
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Nlighten1
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
39. If this is the case then we wouldn't need colleges |
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Selwynn
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Sat Oct-11-03 12:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. LOL There is not book called "The Cave" so.. what have you been reading? |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?....wow ugly! |
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Classical_Liberal
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. He doesn't have to read Alan Blooms version |
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screaming_meme
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Please keep politics out of scholarship |
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Classical_Liberal
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Bloom never kept the politics out of scholarship as you |
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TahitiNut
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Discuss 'Republic' without discussing anything "political"? |
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rucky
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Actually it was the public school crack that offended... |
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Sat Oct-11-03 12:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. I Made It All The Way To Post Grad Studies In Poli Sci And |
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TahitiNut
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Interesting reaction to a (possibly) Socratic question. |
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Jack Rabbit
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Maybe we can start by asking: |
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Classical_Liberal
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
21. It is Socrates's "Allegory of the Cave" |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. thank you...an interesting debate on NPR last week about this |
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screaming_meme
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Sat Oct-11-03 10:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Whatever |
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Classical_Liberal
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:08 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. The cave is Fox News and the rest of the spin machine |
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. This says it all. Read it and weep! |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. yup and point scoring is used extensively on Fox |
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Selwynn
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Sat Oct-11-03 12:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
46. It is Plato's interpretation of socrates, thus Plato's allegory |
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kodi
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Sat Oct-11-03 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
40. dude, plato was talking about "perception is reality" |
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Selwynn
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Sat Oct-11-03 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
43. All it means is this: |
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CWebster
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Sat Oct-11-03 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
45. People would rather kill the messenger |
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Sat Oct-11-03 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
52. the truth is out there |
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