Rush Limbaugh doesn't deserve your pity - but you should give it anyway

[Selwynn]

Because we're not, in theory, as bad as Rush is in his mercilessness and pitilessness and ridicule. In theory, we're better than that. But most importantly becuase compassion that stops first to size up and evaluate the relative worth of the object of compassion really isn't compassion at all. Compassion has more to do with your heart than it does the object of compassion. And mercy is mercy specifically because it is bestowed irregardless of the worth of the receiver.

[Kamika]

1. lol

good one.. im still laughing

[Selwynn]

2. Oh, I know you are

[dsc]

3. Well stated

but for me it is both more simple and more necessary. I am in a save your own ass program. If I start choosing which addicts are worthy of help and which ones aren't I stop saving my own ass. All addicts are saved by grace which be definition is bestowed without regard to deserving.

[Liberal Veteran]

4. I hope he gets the help he needs to break his addiction, but....

At the same time I will excoriate him ruthlessly for his utter hypocrisy and lies these last 5 years.

He is still the same asshole who brought the politics of division and incivility to the table and I will not forgive or forget that.

[Homer12]

5. I agree

Mercy is more powerfull than hate.

He dug his own hole, wishing ill will and taking pleasure in someones bad fourtune self-made problem is bad karma: Rush is an example of this.

[Mikimouse]

6. I respect you and what you are saying

I think that now that the initial fury has passed, you will begin to see more reasoned dialogue, rather than what was circulating yesterday. I admit that I contributed to it myself, but upon much reflection, I started thinking about the origins of my perspectives. I fully support the compassion you advocate, and would do so for any one who is addicted to anything. My problem with Limbaugh is not his substance addiction, it is with his broadcast hatred and his defiling of everything I consider to be socially just and good. Just when I think that he has done as much damage as he can, he manages to come up with something new and even more outrageous. The fact of the matter is this: all of our discussions about him getting cleaned up are probably going to be moot anyway. When I cleaned up, I was told not to expect any 'miracles'. because I was 40 at the time. Apparently, people who attempt it after 40 are less likely to be successful in their endeavors. I was lucky. I had a great deal of support from people I didn't know prior to getting sober, and I am grateful to all of them. I will support Limbaugh's efforts, and will try very hard not to judge him (not my place anyway); however, it will be a very difficult road for him to accept his helplessness and begin to change his behaviors.

[Liberal Veteran]

8. You make some good points

And as I said in an earlier post, while I hope he gets the help he needs to recover from his addiction, his action prior to his drug problem and during the years of his drug problem have infected our society with some of the ugliest of political landscapes and contributed mightily to the incivility of political discourse. That portion has NOTHING to do with his drug habit and he is still an asshole who will live the life of luxury after all is said an done.

I have compassion for him on the single issue of his drug addiction, but it does not erase or make up for what he has done to this country. I would still spit on him as soon as look at him because of he is an utterly vile and detestable person, regardless of his current problems.

[Selwynn]

11. You do ineed, make some good points (nt)

[Rex]

7. If this is still a fair and balanced society

then Rush needs to do hard time, like all the poor folks who get busted for doing illegal drugs. He only came forward AFTER the story leaked...sorry but I just can't pity Rush.

[LuminousX]

10. Then you believe drug users deserve to do hard time?

Are our convictions so wishy-washy that we refuse to apply the same standard to everyone in our society?

You are seeking revenge. I seek justice. There is a difference.

[Rex]

12. Standards...that is exactly what I posted

IF poor people have to do hard time for illegal drugs...then so should Rush. I hate repeating myself. ;)

[Liberal Veteran]

14. Justice would be for him to face exactly what he advocated for...

...other drug users.

I don't agree with him. I believe that drug addiction and misuse should be treated as a medical issue and not a criminal one. On the other hand, I cannot forget that he is a very big proponent of minimum sentences and no mercy for people struggling with addiction.

And as it currently stands, that is the law of the land and he undermined our every effort to change that.

It is said that he that soweth the wind shall reap the whirlwind. Never has that been more true.

[jafap]

28. no mercy for the bad if they want it

You said what I was thinking. Rush was on the news saying "he did not want to be seen as a victim" as if that is the issue. Wouldn't we always say that addicts should get help rather than condemnation? Rush cannot figure out that his option - expensive rehab - is not available to non-rich people. Instead the state spends billions of dollars to persecute, prosecute and jail us.
Since Rush is the one who is in favor of jail for addicts - he should get what he favors for others in his situation. The state should spend a few million dollars trying to send him to jail. Yes, Rush we will have as much sympathy for your problems as you have for ours. You want sympathy Rush, it is in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. Let your own glass house be shattered by the stones you have thrown.

[Terwilliger]

30. I don't think Rush should go to jail for his being an addict

but, then, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE ELSE SHOULD EITHER...so until everybody has to submit to the same standard that Rush proposes to be criminality and forced alteration, he can submit to the "relaities" of the consequences of his actions.

And, once again, the only reason we are discussing this is because he got CAUGHT.

[Cheswick2.0]

78. Rush's redemption and recovery are entirely dependent on doing hard time

Rush beleives that drug addicts are a cancer on society and must pay their dept in prison and be let out when and if they are solid in recovery. Rush will never be truly in recovery until he pays that price. For him to do anything less is to hold to the fantasy that he is somehow different than a Crack or Heroin addict.

I hope he gets sent away for a long while... but he won't he is a rich white guy. Sadly for him that very fact will allow him to go along being a cancer on society until he dies of an overdose.

[Cat Atomic]

9. I hope he can never again do what he's been doing for the

last 15+ years.

I harbor this hope because Rush Limbaugh is a cruel and destructive man. I don't want him to get better and go back to doing his thing. I want him to stop spreading hatred and lies.

If he can stop doing those things that AND get better at the same time, fine. But if it's one or the other, I say to hell with Rush Limbaugh.

Call me small minded, but I don't see why I should root for a man who will only go back to kicking people in the face when he's able to.

[magnolia]

13. I've always pitied Rush....

...and people like him for their ignorance and capacity to hate. God have mercy on them all!

[janx]

43. His capacity to hate comes from his ignorance, and the drugs

enhanced his willingness to broadcast it. I'd be willing to bet that man has been an addict far longer than he has so far admitted.

[The Zanti Regent]

15. NO

KARMA IS A BITCH, RUSH.

[Skittles]

16. I'm trying, Selwynn, I'm really trying

it's just so very hard with Rush F***ing Limbaugh. Very, very hard.

[morebunk]

17. "First, to thine own self be true."

I refuse to lie to myself like the dittoheads keep doing. I am a sinner and I am not proud of it. I do not feel pity or sympathy for Rush...eventhough it would be the noble thing to do. This is just one of the many sins I will judged on. I seek forgiveness, but I can't change how I really feel. Rush is reaping exactly what he has sown.

[SammyWinstonJack]

18. I didn't engage in the bash Rush fest

not because I don't think he deserves it, but because I don't have the time too worry about someone who is a hate spewing gasbag and who knows the hateful untrue things he spews cause great pain and serve no other purpose than to divide Americans on many levels. I have no pity for him just as he has display time and again no pity for others who have fallen prey to drug addictions.

Here is an article from a newsletter my Dad is co-editor of:

Rush on Drug-Users in 1995: 'Convict them and Send Them up the River'

"When you have a talk-radio show 15 hours a week, you have an awful lot of air to fill. On this particular day, which was Oct. 5, 1995, Rush was roaring about the scourge of illegal drug use. Even though blacks and whites break the drugs laws in roughly equal percentages, he noted, black druggies go to prison far more often than white druggies do. But to the liberal-bashing host, this was no reason to ease up on blacks. "What this says to me,' he told his listerners that day, 'is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drugs sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too." 'Including zillionaire radio hosts? Well, maybe not."

I'll save my compassion for those addicted to drugs who clearly want help, for those who seek treatment for their addiction because they want to put an end to their addictions.

Rush would still be taking those drugs if his housekeeper did not outted him. He would still be ranting on about "black druggies and white druggies" and what should happen to them. He is the worst kind of hypocrite.

[Fight_n_back]

19. Since Rush thinks blacks have an unfair advantage in this country

he should let the justice system deal with him as if he were a young black man accussed of the same crime.

Then we'll see compassionate conservatism.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. Here's what I will do

the day Rush Limbaugh goes on National TV, gets down on his knees, begs forgiveness for every hate filled thing that has ever spewed out of his trap, tells his ditto heads that he LIED about EVERYTHING he has ever said about ANYONE from the Democratic party.....then I will "consider" giving him my sympathy. Until then, Rush can kiss my behind. He's a scumbag.

[OneTwentyoNine]

21. Basically what I said yesterday...

Before I give that scumbag one ounce of pity he has to EARN it. Where the hell has he earned any pity from anyone?

I'll never forget when that flaming gas bag claimed after "Take your daughter to work day" that it was a day brought on by the Feminazi's that only served one purpose,it let these women go to work and goof-off all day because they had their daughters with them.

As a husband with a wife and three daughters I was offended and unbelievably pissed off. If only you could reach through the radio. So now this blow hard deserves pity??


David

[Cha]

25. You're right! rush hasn't "earned" any pity!

"No Sympathy For The Devil".

[Selwynn]

26. You don't "earn" compassion (nt)

[Cheswick2.0]

79. you do earn forgiveness

and he needs to do so.

[Bozola]

22. Do unto Rush that what Rush wants to do unto himself.

"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."

-- Rush Limbaugh show, Oct. 5, 1995

Ciao, Rushbaby, and remember, don't drop the soap.

[TreasonousBastard]

23. I agree with the concept...

and it is a basic belief of mine that compassion does not have to be "earned." Nor does forgiveness. Redemption, however, does.

So here's what I'm giving pigboy-- squat.

I don't want him to suffer any more than anyone else. I don't want to gloat over his problems. I don't revel or rejoice in his imminent downfall, although I might snicker a little.

But, he is still the narcissistic hatemonger he always was, and disease or addiction has nothing to do with that. That he may have other problems doesn't negate what he represents.

So, I give him nothing. His problems don't affect me one way or the other. I simply refuse to care.

Unlike so many others, he has the resources to heal himself, as he preaches. Let him do that and leave me alone.

[Nashyra]

24. As a person in recovery I have to put aside resentment

and say a prayer for this assholes recovery. Alcolholism and drug addiction is a disease and a favorite saying of mine to a newcomer is "that most (most) of us are sick people hoping to get better, not bad people" However some of the sick people are BAD people and even sober they will not be good people but the chances are that if you wholly embrace a 12 step program, and I mean wholly embrace which would entail eliminating about 99.9% of this man's rhetoric then he would probably end up being a very nice person, also that means changing only one thing, "everything". Time will tell, because if he claims he is sober and still spews the nasty, resentment causing rhetoric we will all know that he is not in "recovery", why do you think it has not helped the last 2 times, probably hasn't wanted to change that "one" thing.

[Eloriel]

70. Just so you know

But, he is still the narcissistic hatemonger he always was, and disease or addiction has nothing to do with that.

His "narcissistic hatemongering" have everything to do with his disease and addiction. They are symptoms of it too.

Eloriel

[Fatima]

27. Lemme think about it for a second...

nah.

Seriously, I would wish him the best, if he were thoughtful and concerned about his fellow man, but he isn't. He has inspired nothing but hatred, lies and bigotry against the least of our brethren and made a ton of money doing it...and for that, I don't owe him an ounce of pity. That may sound mean but that's the way it is for me right now. Why waste the energy feeling bad for him when there are so many more deserving of our support?

[Terwilliger]

29. Fuck Rush Limbaugh

he can go to you believers' hell

What happens when he comes back from "recovery" and starts trashing everyone again? Just how long do you think it will be before he starts berating addicts again?

Fuck him.

[laura888]

36. I must agree with this

this man does not deserve mercy. he is the type who only understands power.

[Clark Can WIN]

55. Oh God Ter..........

We just agreed on something again.:wow: We must cease immediately :evilgrin:

[Q]

31. I'm beginning to think that Rehab centers have internet...

...connections.

[Lars39]

32. Spin: how many people has Rush driven to drugs thru his propaganda

and resulting policies?

[radwriter0555]

33. Limbaugh doesn't deserve my attention. But you go ahead,

lol.

[VOX]

34. Rush has gotten wealthy by fomenting and spreading hate...

I'll pity him when he stops causing such widespread pain and damage to broad segments of society. If he publicly apologizes for all the hurt he's caused in his lifetime and then disappears from sight, hell, I'll even forgive him.

Until then, he is the *enemy*.

[noiretextatique]

35. thanks...i save my compassion

for the people rush (and his rw friends) doesn't give a damn about...still. like the homeless people who hang out at the donut shop near my house. some of them are probably suffering from addiction too, unlike rush, they can't check into some exclusive treament center and whine for 'compassion.' i hope he gets treatment, and i'm sure he will have plenty of others to be compassionate for him, but i think i'll just stick to giving my homeless friends a dollar or a cup of coffee.

[ReadTomPaine]

37. Sympathy for the devil will only get you a window seat to hell.

Don't empathize with the RW, defeat them. They deserve exactly the same treatment they give others – they need to be marginalized, intimidated & kicked out of office by all means required to regain control of the country.

This isn’t a game, it’s a culture war and you don’t win wars worrying about how the other side feels regarding your tactics. How many more people have to die overseas, how many more rights do you have to lose before you wake up?

Don’t just look at the next election, look at the whole picture- we need to stop more than Bush, we need to stop the entire RW agenda. It has to ripped out of the soil of our society by the root and discredited to the point that no one will admit the are a conservative. That mean more than Bush, it means more than Rush Limbaugh… it means the guy next door and your RW relatives too. Every one of them needs to be verbally 'kicked in the ass' any time they open their mouths to poison the air with their anti-democratic messages. These people are freaks, and they do this again and again- look at the 50’s, the Palmer raids in the 20’s, the Great Depression.

You don’t argue with social cancer- you cut it away from the body politic.

[BeachBuckeye]

72. Bingo!

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[ulysses]

38. Mercy? No.

I can have some kind of feeling for Rush Limbaugh as a human being struggling with an all-too-human frailty.

As a political animal? He's Streicher come again. Fuck him. Kick him in the nuts when he's down.

[mitchum]

39. no

[laruemtt]

40. thanks for this setiment, selwynn

you are right about compassion belonging to the giver, just as hate belongs to the hater. i would hope against hope that rush can SOMEHOW develop some compassion and come back and pass it on to his rabid cult. well, a girl can dream!

[msmcghee]

41. Where is the pity . .

. . for Tommy Chong?

[Hippo_Tron]

42. Ummm it's Rush's life...

Frankly I don't care one way or the other if he gets off drugs or not.

[KoKo]

44. Rush Apologists! Eat Dirt! He embodies HYPOCRACY! Give me a Break!

I'm so sick of this Rush apologia....angst on Du!

This Man gave the "Stamp of Approval" for PNAC, Corporate Coruption and the "Fruition of Gingrich's Lies for America"

Let him suffer for want of his "illegal Cuban Cigars!" Let him "detox" over his meetings in Denny's parking lot waiting to purchase his DRUGS in brown bags.....while folks who needed DRUGS/MEDS more than he did DIED because they couldn't get access to or afford medication to ease their suffering when they had pain.

BLECH......I don't have Christian Compassion for that man. Let him deal with HIS MAKER....America has SUFFERED ENOUGH....for his SINS aided by Corporate VALUES!

He was Bought, Paid for, Sealed and Delivered!

I won't feel sorry for him!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. Is This Acceptable...

I wish Rush no personal ill will, no withdrawl symptoms, no rape by Bubba in prison, et cetera....

I just wish to see him humiliated ala Jimmy Swaggart and banished from the public square....

He has been pissing in the public well from which we all must drink for fifteen years.....

[Selwynn]

49. I wish that Rush' credibiltiy as a political voice would be annihilated

I wish that Rush would never be taken seriously in the political arena ever again - that he would be a libility to conservatives who would shun him, and a laughing stock to everyone else. I wish that his career in political-entertainment would be finished.

At the same time, I wouldn't wish drug addiction on anyone, and I'm sad that this is the way it came about. I fear that Rush may be very unlikely to make a recovery becuase I've heard that the older your are the harder it is to recover from addiction. I don't have malicious feelings towards Rush. I don't desire vengence or his constant torture. I wish he would get the help he needs for his addiction, and perhaps through that process take a long hard look at himself. And then I wish he could settle down and live a quiet life in whatever what he feels is best, far, far, far away from the public arena.

I don't hate Rush - rush's life makes me incredibly sad. It is the tragedy of what is possible when you're driven by anger, hatred, fear, selfishness and insecurity instead of love and compassion. This is part of the reason why I very much do not want to approve of myself feeling the emotions of anger or hatred. Because in my opinion, regardless of whatever political views you hold, it only leads to a life like Rush's in the end.

[Individualist]

46. Who are you to tell DUers what we should do?

As I've said on other threads, I have no compassion for a man who has made his living by trying to destroy the lives of others with lies/bigotry.

[Selwynn]

47. I'm free to give my opinion, and evaluate yours - same as you :)

And by the way, as long as there continue to be threads started giving the opinion that no better and more decent qualities should be shown towards Rush, I'll continue to provide my counter opinion.

:hug:

[Individualist]

51. When you say

"you should give (Rush) your pity", you're not expressing an opinion. Apparently you can't discern the difference between expressing an opinion and telling people what they should do. Welcome to my ignore list!

[Selwynn]

58. It is my opinion that you should give Rush your pity (nt)

Very thankful to be on your ignore list, hehe :D

[mitchum]

48. How are you able to reach the keyboard from that cross?

[Selwynn]

50. "because I'm the Son of God you brainiac, did you have a question? "

Sorry - I figured if you were going to be cute, I'd be cute back. :)

(the title line is from South Park in case anyone missed the reference!)

[mitchum]

53. Okay (confession time)...

I cribbed mine from Dashiell Hammett

[Selwynn]

57. LOL - you're proof you can be wrong and cool at the same time! :D

I'm only kidding!! :)

Edit -- er.. only kidding about that "wrong" part hehe

[Mari333]

52. No compassion no pity here

I might lose a son in 13 days to that godforsaken war...the one Rush screamed about as being a just invasion..
I hope Rush rots in his own hatred. the Blood of all the dead and wounded soldiers is on his hands. as is the Blood of every child who dies in Iraq.



"Im sorry my child, But Rush Limbaugh and people like him say you had to die for Halliburton and Bechtel".

[Clark Can WIN]

54. Ruck Fush

You go ahead and be better for both of us, me, I'm not wasting sympathy on a blowfly worm. I cannot pity those who distribute hate and division for profit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

56. I'm Content To See Him Humiliated .......

That's enough for me.....


You know it has to suck for Rush knowing folks are relishing his misery....

He mentioned D U on the air several times... You know the thrashing he got here stung.....

I can't think of a more condign punishment...

[Clark Can WIN]

59. Remember the racist anti-semite in the Twilight Zone movie?

That would be a fitting hell for Rush.

[Walt Starr]

60. I will feel no pity for Rush Limbaugh so long as he walks free

and Tommy Chong is behind bars for selling glass.

Until the double standard is corrected, he gets nothing but scorn from me.

[opihimoimoi]

61. A waste of food, air, and water. Like Jimmy Swaggert, and Jim Bakker,

Rush has let down his followers.

He will attempt a comeback but the credibility has been tarnished badly. :shrug:

[Walt Starr]

77. Don't worry, the dittojunkies need their "Rush" fix

Have you noticed the withdrawal they've been going through since he announced he's a junkie too?

[Dob Bole]

62. We must love our enemies

This is something that baffles Republicans. We have to be able to rise above them and do this, because it's something that, to the pubbies' surprise, Americans like. It's also the right thing to do.

So I hope Rush recovers. After he does, I hope he turns over a new leaf and helps others recover. I don't care whether it's politically expedient for him to waste away and die or not.

[ReadTomPaine]

65. If you love them you'll never beat them.

Play to win this one, or learn to lose. And if we lose, we'll lose it all.

[Selwynn]

71. Says you.

[angka]

63. let the hypocrite choke on his own invective.

<ahem>

(ed. a little less mean)

[Isome]

64. I do pity Rush...

If only for a few moments at a time, because then a news program will air his self-serving admission of being addicted to prescription medication for his back pain, and I hear the obvious lies of omission. After that reality comes back into focus and I recognize the same fat ass mofo who has been encouraging mouthbreathing bigots & hypocrites in this country for more than a decade!

He's supposed to go to rehab for 30 days... thirty days?!! He won't be rehabilitated after such a short length of time; he's only going because he got caught, not because he reached his "rock bottom", or because he experienced some kind of epiphany.

Liberals, of all stripes, and the rest of America deserve my pity for having to live in an atmosphere poisoned by Rush and his RW co-conspirators.

[scarface2004]

68. rush can eat shit!!!

i can t wait till his explodes that fat fuck!!

[Spirochete]

66. Two things I hope...

1. He gets treatment and gets clear of his addictions.

2. His voice is NEVER heard on the airwaves again.

[ibegurpard]

67. Mercy is for those who can't hurt you anymore.

Rush ain't there yet.

[Ellen Forradalom]

69. Yes, give it because it really annoy the f*ck out of him

Oh, he and his dittojunkies will hate that!

[Katie]

74. On the contrary thats exactly what freepers want- your pity

They want you to feel sorry for him. They want an excuse for his behavior. They want to sweep it under the rug. They want a way out, after years of repeating "ditto" to a junkie. Its embarrassing for them.

I spoke with a Rush supporter, last night. Ive never heard so many excuses in my life, including it was the "liberal media's" fault. I just had to ask him if Clinton tied Rush down and forced him to take drugs. Thats how ridiculous the conversation was. Keep in mind, the Rush Conversation started after this guy spent half the evening boasting about the "Republican's big win" in California. They love to talk about that, but Rush? Lovely watching them squirm.

For those who want to show real compassion for those struggling with drug addiction, I suggest spending some time volunteering at a drug rehab center or give money to people you know that have to decide between medication or food. If you're in a real charitable mood,
you could join the cry in at Free Republic, I suppose.

Rush has been given much in this life, what he chose to do with that is his responsibilty. And like everyone in life he has to face up to the consequences.

This isnt about hating anyone, its about laughing at the hypocrisy of the whole situation. After years of listening to him bash the "character" of others, we find out what a "character" he is. I dont worry about Rush, his money will take care of anything he needs & his party will find an excuse for anyhing he's done.

"WHAT WILL WE TELL THE CHILDREN?" Mary Bono on the Clinton Impeachment. Wonder what the republicans are telling their children now? I guess Dopers, Gropers, & Liars are ok, as long as they are republicans.

[ProudGerman]

73. Admirable position

But what will it serve if I "give" him some compassion? He's miles away from me, my compassion will do him no good.

In the meantime, I'm thinking about justice. I'm thinking a vile, disgusting, hateful human being should be getting what he deserves. He should be sent up the river, to steal a phrase of his. He should have his ass kicked every day by the very people he showed no compassion towards, and then butt raped by large inmates. He should get everything that he's said that people in his position should get. I want him to go to prison, I want him to suffer greatly.

But that isn't to say that I would deny compassion and help if he were to ask for it. I don't claim to be Jesus, nor do I want to even try to be. That still makes me "better than that", a phrase you used in your original post. I won't deny compassion and help to those who ask for it, he does and revels in it.

BTW, this does not mean that my compassion and help is only for those who ask for it. I offer it freely...to those in my life. I'll even show pity for those who are not in my life if they are good people. But I will not show pity for those who are hateful and dispicable. No compassion for those who laugh at compassion like its a weakness. No help for those who have tried their damdest to deny help to those who need it most.

[MODemocrat]

75. It's not his drug problem, it's the hypocrisy

Whenever he is ready to apologize to Chelsea Clinton, the elderly, the people of different color, other drug addicts, and the dissent he has caused in this country, etc., etc., etc., then, maybe I'd have compassion for him because I'd feel that just maybe he was repenting.
Until then, his sympathy/compassion will have to come from his undyiing followers. :nopity: :spank:

[olmy]

76. Forgive, even though he still hates you.

There was some person doing the talk show circuit a while back and the book had to do with forgiveness. The gist was that you should confront the people who have hurt you and tell THEM that YOU forgive them. Even when an apology from them would come after Hell freezes over.

Well I think forgiveness is a sacred thing. It cheapens and demeans one of the most basic and beautifull of human acts if the person that has done wrong does not care, and has the victim giving him a free pass.

For campassion to become involved in the case of Rush, his atrocities are long and sick. How many people has he hurt? How many individuals like gays, homeless, and DRUG ADDICTS have been the topic of his hate? How many people that listen to him parroted his twisted views that caused pain and despair between their families and friends.

Instead, he goes to the well, the one he draws on every day to confess his "issue". There was and probably be no apology to anyone that was the topic of hate. Only the apology to the gang that make up his audience, and that is on a conditional basis. A doctor did it, my back hurt, a tubby tot in the land of pharmaceutical chutes and ladders that did not know any better with all the bright and shiny tablets.

He will NOT apologize to the people he has hurt, he will not give an inch from the playbook calculated to make his comeback, he will NOT give an inch.

Stop agonizing over why or wether we should be compassionate. He deserves our compaasion when he acknowledges he did something wrong. He played the game of divide and hate, it makes mony and there is NO APOLOGY in the deal.

Stop whining about compassion for someone who has no shame. Give your compassion to the people he hurt.....there are many.

[Cheswick2.0]

80. this is the worst kind of moralizing

Please stop, you are doing no one any favors here, least of all the fatuous gas bag himself.

[olmy]

81. How is wanting an apology moralizing?

What is your issue? Care to tell?

What an odd place this is. I am a Democrat, gay, agree with all the things here, love the information I get here, but when I post I get nothing but grief about moralizing, or that I should take my postings somewhere else, or attacked with name calling.

I am begining to think this is quite the exclusive little club, and your post count matters more than anything else. Is there some kind of test you have to take, or some ritual involved?

The Datalounge has people who are more accepting to people than the responses I have gotten here. If it is your desire to have a more narrow view on what a democrat should write like, or his vocabulary be up to your standards?

If that is the case, you better add that in the posting rules. This
is the way I write, if you have an issue with it, pass it by.

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[Selwynn]

82. I think Ches was refering to me, not you :)