Are we 100% sure we want a special prosecutor?

[wryter2000]

This is an honest question about something that occurred to me this morning.

After reading half of Krugman's book, I'm convinced that Bush is only a part of the problem in this country. If we toss him out, the forces that got him there aren't going to go away. They're going to lurk, waiting for their chance to pounce again. And if they have support in Congress, they'll be doubly dangerous.

Given that, what would they do to the democratic president? What they did to Clinton. But they'd need a special prosecutor to do it. If they have to resurrect the law, they'll have a harder battle than if we do it for them.

I'd really like to hear other opinions on this one.

[maggrwaggr]

1. that's why they need to go to jail

otherwise they're still going to be committing crimes.

What would you rather do, just vote them out of power? They'll still be there, doing more damage behind the scenes.

I say appoint a special prosecutor, throw 'em all in jail.

[JitterbugPerfume]

2. I kind of agree

sometimes the best laid plans backfire right in your face

[leetrisck]

3. The independent council law has expired

so it would have to be a special prosecutor but he/she would be appointed by Ashcroft or a 3 judge panel and isn't that just hilarious with the Repukes in control of everything. Better be careful what we ask for - can't you just see Kenneth Starr, Danforth from MO or some other Democratic hater as special prosecutor and believe me if one is appointed that is what we'll get.

[Aleesha]

4. It's not about Clinton anymore

It's about what is right, and what is serious. A special investigation doesn't mean it would be Ken Starr. The Democrats in the house and Senate need to publicly announce what this administration has done, and what they plan to do about it. If you actually stop and think hard about what has gone on since Bush stole office, wouldn't you as a an American citizen want investigations and answers? To leak the name of a CIA agent is the worst offence this coup has commited, lieing to the American people for the pupose of controling Iraq's oil, Haliburton Sweetheart Deals (Kucinich), and the lobbying going on in the Whitehouse, Bush handing Iraqs jobs to his big contributers. All of this should have been investigated from the beginning. The real problem is finding anyone in the Congress to get down and dirty and start screaming for investigations, but doiing it continuously, and loudly. In the last debate, I heard Wesley Clark mention the lobbying going on, and I am putting my faith in him to bring out even stronger info against this administration that the American people are not aware of. I really liked this question, more people need to ask it.

[wryter2000]

5. Thanks for your thoughts

I guess I hadn't considered the possibility that the actual guilty parties would get caught and punished. I do really want that to happen. :)

[leetrisck]

10. Agreed - so many lies and total

misinformation have come out of this White House, I have to wonder what else is going on. They even lie when the truth would do just fine. Of course it should all be investigated but with a complete Republican everything the Democrats do not even have subpoena powers in their committees - this also happened during Whitewater. I have been waiting and waiting for the Democrats to speak up and tell it like it is and it is just beginning to happen - now if the media will just report it.

[slor]

6. We need whatever it...

takes to find the loser(s). That being said, I thought treason during time of war was punishable by DEATH, not some 10 year jail term. Let the leaker(s) hear that and see how quick they want to make a deal. LOL, Herr Rove might frog march his greasy ass out all by himself to save his hide.

[Eloriel]

7. You're on the right track

but I don't think you're understanding the true scope of the problem.

The scope of the problem is this (as I think to myself in my darker moments): unless we completely destroy (politically) the Bush Family, along with probably a good many of its tentacles (friends), a Democratic president in 2004 will only be a brief respite from this fascist hell we find ourselves in.

American fascism goes back to at least the 30s, augmented by the Nazi fascists we purposefully brought INTO the country after WW2 and installed in government (CIA) and politics (RNC), and it's bubbled up with most of the Republican presidents we've had (Ike may have been something of an exception).

The Bush Family has been mostly at the core of American Fascism, and are now its prime movers. Maybe they've always been its prime movers.

Do they think of themselves as fascists? Probably not. That doesn't really matter. Fascists they are and fascists they will continue to be. The U.S. is in dire, dire straits right now -- and sinking.

To the extent that Americans are unaware of the problem, we have no hope of correcting it. These people are NOT going away; they're NOT going to become good, pro-democracy statesmen ever; every time they are defeated they just go work "underground," building foundations and think thanks, and come back stronger.

Eloriel

[wryter2000]

8. It's bigger than the Bush family

There are a whole bunch of truly evil people behind this. They have their hooks into the United States of America. Getting rid of Bush is like cutting a bit of the cancer out. Somehow we need to convince the American people that these people are the antithesis of what the country is supposed to stand for so that whenever the monsters poke their heads up out of their lairs, we'll pound them back down.

[gulliver]

9. Traitorgate is bad for Bush either way.

With or without a special counsel, this issue is a disaster for the Bushies.

Without a special counsel, there is no reason to believe that the issue is being investigated vigorously. Therefore, the issue won't go away, and the Bushies can be charged with both having two traitors in the White House and not investigating thoroughly to get rid of said traitors.

A special counsel would also be a problem for the Bushies. Namely, a couple of them would probably be frog marched out of the White House in handcuffs, and a bunch more of them would need to retain counsel for abetting the act.

Regardless, we know that by failing to fully investigate within the administration, the Bushies are admitting that they worry more about their political future than they are about damage to national security.