I was just on C-Span as a Bush supporter

[R Hickey]

I read a news story about how our soldiers are chopping down all Iraq's ancient olive orchards.

Then the announcer asked me how this news story tied into my support of Bush, which kind of stumped me, so I said that this showed the Iraqi's "how tough we were..."

[Catch22Dem]

1. Why'd the announcer ask you that?

[Catherine Vincent]

46. The moderator asked him that because they more than

likely knew he wasn't a real * supporter. They ask little questions like that to try and out you. If they didn't do that on both sides, the callers would complain. I think that is the reason they divide the lines that way now. When Clinton was president it was divided by party. A lot of d's and r's were calling on both lines claiming to be affiliated with that party, but the r's do it more often though.

[piece sine]

50. oh..what's the difference?!

If anyone here actually thinks C-Span's call-in show is influential, or broadly popular or that it -- in any makes a difference -- then you're being naive on this point. What, with the Leftist pretendig to be wingers and vice-versa -- poor C-Span remains in the muddled-middle; a carnival show's funhouse of distorted mirrors. All 2,000 of America's political hardcore junies watch it. C-Span is a grat public servce but it's average ratings ARE TOO LOW TO BE MEASURED!

Why would pretend to be their political adversary? Do you have the right stuff to be yourself and expess your own true-blue views?

Nothing more pathetic than some winger thinking he's fooling the audience into "thinking" he's liberal. Alas, the reverse is also true. JUST BE YOURSELF. And start hitting television programs with better demographics!

[trumad]

2. snarf

I think that should be the ploy of all us dems... Go in as a repuke and just sound stupid as hell... They would never know since we'd fit right in...

[JNelson6563]

4. neo-cons do it all the time

They often call inpretending to be "lifelong Democrats" who are "ashamed" of the Dems' behavior. :eyes:

We should do it too. Time to fight fire with fire.

Julie

[0007]

43. I can never get on

no matter who I'm for -

[Cha]

8. Have you heard? They all "sound stupid as hell" anyway?

It's disgusting? I usually mute them on c-span ..sorry I missed the "olive" call from RHickey!

[mhr]

3. Since You Are a Bush Supporter Does This Make You

one of those Free Republic Infiltrators?

In other words, why are you here?

[newsjunkie]

22. Oh good grief

DUH!

[ixion]

5. did you tell them to 'Bring it on'?

n/t :P

[eileen_d]

6. heh

I'm glad you got the word out on that horrible story. Do you feel "dirty" now? }(

[Cha]

10. Yes! I'm glad our DUer got that out about the

"olive orchards"! It's terrible and will only come back to blow up in our faces.

[Cha]

7. Bad Boy! Did you hear the caller from Virginia?

The lady who was in the hospital on oxygen who said if she would have
had $131.60(?) for her pills she wouldn't had to go into the hospital and that we should use our money for our Seniors and medicare instead of sending it to Iraq? She was so Sweet..she had a little catch in her throat from being so sad. :-(



Sorry, I missed your call..I usually "mute" the "those who agree with bush" callers because they're so fulla shyte! :)

[OneTwentyoNine]

12. Did some War monger call in next?

And repuke that lady's statement by exclaiming that if we don't send another 80 billion,then another 80 billion that she wouldn't be around when the Iraqi's attack America and take over??

That's usually the tripe that they come up with. What price do you put on FREEDOM?!?!?!?!

Oh hell,I guess whatever price Halliburton comes up with.....


David

[Cha]

16. Oh frig! I don't listen to the idiot's line... I bet she

felt just terrible after that ignorant call.


To a caller like that I say ...bush got us our money pit didn't he?

Well..no more..It's climbing the # of Americans who think we shouldn't have gone into Iraq!


And by the way did anyone see the "suicide of Soldier's story" that was held up by the mod on c-span?

[newsjunkie]

19. I saw that...

A guy was also on CNN morning show talking about investigating that.i didnt hear it very well because I had just woke up...but Im going to find out more. If its true its just disgraceful that things are so bad. All the RWers are running all over the place with their 'Everything's groovy in Iraq' propaganda lately. I am sure its all BS.

[leetrisck]

32. Yes, I saw the "suicide story" and had already

read it. The right wing web sites are ripping the media for reporting it and saying it's just a way to make the thief look bad. There have been rumors of above average #'s of suicides for awhile but that was the first real article I had seen on it. Also investigation supposedly going on over all the soldiers dying from blood clots.

[qanda]

9. I heard you.

Good job! I was bracing myself for another ignorant FReeper. You said that you agreed with Bush* that the news is being filtered.

The host looked shocked when you started reading the story.

[Cha]

11. Did you call in on the "agree" line because the

other was so busy? Anyway..I'm glad you got in there. I use to try to call to c-span but I'm not patient enough to wait for 10 years like I've heard some callers say it took them to get on.

[newsjunkie]

40. Thats BS when they say that

I get in almost everytime I try.It's easier if you start dialing as soon as they show the numbers. It also helps a lot if you have a redial and flash button,but the last time I called, when the question was 'Should Ralph Nader run in 04'? I got through on a phone without it in about ten tries. I said Not no but HELL NO.

[Judi Lynn]

13. Priceless. Congratulations!

Couldn't be better.

The BAD part is, you actually would have sounded exactly LIKE so many Republican callers. Stupid, and belligerent.

Your call sounds delightful. I'm sure you made a lot of normal people dribble their coffee this morning, howling with laughter.

All is not lost for those of us who didn't catch it. The Washington Journal can be caught again today on the internet. :bounce: :bounce: :hi:

[Cha]

17. That's right! WE can listen on the net! Thanks, JudiLyn!

:)

[leetrisck]

14. I heard you and I caught the "tongue in cheek"

I called yesterday and said I hoped someone had awakened the Commander in Thief to tell him about the Baghdad bombing since he doesn't watch TV or read newspapers. Also told them the Wilson
and their children were in jeopardy and would probably have very short lives because of TREASON from the White House. Said bush should resign.

[Cha]

18. Good for you! I love hearing from the c-span callers who

"disagree" with bush! They are so well informed!

[newsjunkie]

20. I heard you Lee!

That was one of the BEST calls yesterday. Good job.

[R Hickey]

24. I heard your call yesterday, Leetrisck

The anti-Bush callers have been excellent.

[displacedtexan]

27. i heard you yesterday!

you were great! you should run for office! seriously! get on your local dem county board and start as a county commissioner.

[areschild]

36. I heard you, too, Lee

Told my husband, "That must be a DUer.":D

[Skittles]

37. I HEARD THAT!!!

EXCELLENT!!!

[KayLaw]

44. Hah!

I was in another room but my husband heard you, Leetrisk, and just about laughed his head off!

[LTR]

15. Funny thing is...

...I had thought of infiltrating FR posing as a hard-right moron. Get really reactionary. Call Bush and the other freepers "liberals".

But the I thought they'd probably like me too much. So I'll refrain from posting there until I come back with a better idea.

[bearfartinthewoods]

34. unless things have changed alot in the last couple years

you won't last long. i think they tombstone bush critics pretty quickly there.

[Buns_of_Fire]

21. But someone REALLY should have run on the set

and whomped Larry Craig (R-Idaho) hard upside the head. He couldn't have been more obsequious towards Boosh if he'd been sitting there with a mouthful of BooshButt even as he spoke.

[Cha]

25. I turned his ass off and turned on my democraticunderground.com!

I could just tell by lookin' at his face that I had to get outta there!

[newsjunkie]

31. hahahaha

Thats for sure....some guy called after he left and asked the host 'why did you invite that gassy windbag Republican' on there. LOL

[morebunk]

23. Great Work...we(DUers) need to do more of that

This is exactly how the freepers hog the airways.

[bearfartinthewoods]

26. excuse me for not congratulating you

you were obvious as hell.

it was a good story and would have had more impact if you did it legitimatly on the oppose line. as it is, the relevance was tainted because you allowed it to be tainted as coming from "just another lying, cheating democrat".

[Skittles]

38. Oh, shut up

please

[bearfartinthewoods]

47. no.i won't shut up

no matter how nicely you ask.

we have a tv in the waiting room and i keep it on cspan whenever the live call-in segments are on. it's a great way to sneak a little info in on the local repubs...a captive audience so to speak.

contrary to popular opinion, they aren't all dolts. this would have been an excellant issue for the local farmer types but the clumsy attempt to pretend would just give them an excuse to ignore it.

an honest reporting would have stuck in their heads. this approach gives them a perfect excuse to dismiss it. it's like this is some sort of game of "gotcha" and it's silly and unproductive.

[newsjunkie]

28. Did anyone hear that guy about Cults?

He just called and said something about all the RW cult members who are 'rolling around on the floor'. LMAO! The host hung up on him. Damn.

[izzie]

29. Gee I was shocked it was on TV and said well some one is on the ball

Has it been in Nat. TV yet?

[rasputin1952]

30. Caller from CA...

just mentioned your view on cutting down trees!

Guess he found some things to argue the point, i.e., 'not the way to win the hearts and minds of those over threre'.

LOL...guess someone got an itch after that one.

:bounce:

[Samantha]

33. I heard you as well

My reaction to your comments (before I knew it was a DU'er): I thought the revelation of the article's contents was excellent. When asked for the source, you replied: "the Internet." It might have given the article a bit more credibility had you cited a legitimate, specific source.

When you were asked as to your reaction to the article, you said words to the effect that they now know we are a strong country because we are willing to implement this type of punishment upon those in Iraq who refuse to give us the information we want. The point had been made that nothing was found in that geographical area, nothing of interest to the soldiers. The inference to that finding is that the military enacted the punishment undeservedly upon the keepers of the valuable orchards. Why? Simply because they could...

It's your choice as to how to present valuable information to C-Span. As a lover of this network, I would like to say perhaps you did succeed in making another supporter of Bush* look simply stupid, but my preference would have been for you to have augmented the fact that those who oppose Bush* are well read citizens who do their homework to unearth the truth and to arrive at their logical conclusions the man is ruthless.

While Pubs do pose as Dems and say how embarrassed they are at positions the Democratic party takes, this simply serves to denigrate the integrity of the overall influx of calls. As a supporter of C-Span, I regret we are adding to this denigration by utilizing the same tactics. I don't mean to criticise you because I do feel your approach is simply your shot to call; I just ask you to think about the question, "do we really want to behave as they do?" Isn't the fact we don't one of the things that separates us from them?

[R Hickey]

35. Do we really want to behave as they do?

Yes, I do. We can't turn the other cheek forever. If we ignore Karl Rove he won't just go away.

I didn't hear your call to C-Span about the olive trees. Maybe you should do less moralising and become more active. What about the morality of leaving the olive grove story unheard?

If you read the breaking news at DU, surely you know about the olive trees. Why didn't you do your moral duty and call that story in to C-Span on the 'anti-bush' line if it is all so easy and moral.

[havocmom]

41. Bravo! You are correct; ignoring Rove is not a good tactic

Letting a schoolyard bully go unchallanged never is.

Get in their face and show the other kids that you have a backbone. If they are looking for a leader to follow, show by example that following a strong bully is not the only alternative!

And getting the information out there is critical if we ever hope to stop the insanity which is passing for policy these days. Most citizens will see that ruining food sources is not the way to win hearts and minds. Most people will begin to connect the dots if we provide enough dots for them to follow along with.

[Samantha]

49. Pretty judgmental, aren't you?

You make a lot of false assumptions. I haven't turned the other cheek since I was 16 years old. I have been aware of Karl Rove since 1988 and written and spoken often against his maneuvers.

I have called C-Span many times but have never gotten on. I obviously wasn't moralizing in my post since I chose only to differentiate between the consequences of a positive approach versus the ramifications of exploring a deceptive one. I made it very clear in my post I thought the story should get out and how each of us chooses to get our thoughts on these important topics out into the mainstream is a personal choice.

I am active on many fronts in other venues in which I use my actual name. This has been true for several years. I am not ashamed to let people know where I stand. Why are you?

As far as fighting back, I left the Republican party in 1998 when I could no longer allow my name to be associated with the dirty tricks and outright underhanded maneuvers of that party. Obviously, I would hate to see the party to which I defected become like that party. There are many ways to fight, and defaulting to the low road is not my personal choice. If it's yours, so be it.

[newsjunkie]

39. They just re-aired this mornings show

and your call was on and in the middle of it they switched over to Too-stupid and some more asinine comments of his (about Columbus Day.

[Nashyra]

45. Too Stupid I love it

May I use it in further post, I am always looking for ways to coreectly describe* as I can not bring myself to even type his name.

[0007]

42. Larry Craig is on now

and he's making me absolutely sick. This fucking moron is sprewing his love for junior.

[janx]

48. This is HILARIOUS!

I wish I had heard it! Are you a male or a female? I'm trying to picture this...

[Ouabache]

51. I heard that RH

Good one. I did not know at the time if it was pro or not, so I was thinking that whichever this is--- it is good info to get on CSPAN, it would make Bush look bad either way, and I was thinking you were against Bush as you went on. Then when he asked you that question and you said it made them realize we wouldn't put up with any crap from them, I was like aha, a freeper. They are such idiots that they think that story is a plus for them !!

So I think your strategery and the response you chimed in with worked !! (Well, it worked on me, anyway)

Call them again. You done good son.