Hannity's Trying to Defend Limbaugh - IT AIN'T WORKING!!!!!

[CO Liberal]

:-)

It's truly amazing how rules don't apply to conservatives, according to conservatives.

True, Limbaugh was prescribed addictive painkillers, and he became addicted. But if he broke the law to feed his habit, then he should pay the penalty.

[Parche]

1. hell of a rush

What can he defend?
Rush is a loser
An illegal drug addict
and a hypocrite
all rolled into one

[leftwingpunkrocker]

2. the winer loser, Hannity

well that winey loser can't defend people that easily in trouble, even with his own fans.

[jayfish]

3. He Sure Does Get Alot Of Golf In...

for being in so much pain. Didn't OJ use the same type of defense.

Jay

[CO Liberal]

4. OJ Was On Those Golf Courses Looking for the "Real Killers"

Rush was looking for his head, but it was firmly up his rectum.

[fob]

11. Rush Was On Those Golf Courses Looking for the "Pain Killers"

same difference

[CO Liberal]

12. No - That's Why He Was in The Parking Lot at Denny's

:-)

[VermontDem2004]

14. The purpose of OxyContin

is to relieve the pain.

[CO Liberal]

17. I'm on Relafen and Wear a TENS Unit.....

...to relieve the pain from two herniated discs in my lower back. And I wouldn't DREAM of trying to play golf - I'm sure that even a game of miniature golf would put my back into spasms.

[jayfish]

19. Relieve... Heck, From The Sound Of It, Oxy Plum...

eliminates it.

Jay

[RobertSeattle]

5. Yo Hannity - Replace "Limaugh" with "Clinton" and what you you say

Can't spell "A hates Ninny" without "Sean Hannity" (anagram)

[kaitykaity]

6. What gets me is this incessant whining about

quote unquote liberal attacks on Rush.
Excuse me? The contempt for his political opponents
fairly drips out of the radio. I can handle InSanHannity--he
at least lets opposing voices be heard. Rush is pure
venom disguised as entertainment.

The laws of karma even apply to Rethuglicans.

kk

[CO Liberal]

7. I Hope Someone Calls In......

...and rips Sean a new one. He deserves it.

[kaitykaity]

13. I'd say that's a push.

Notice how he papers over the difference between
preaching morality and living morality. When you
live it and you screw up, you can legitimately
ask for forgiveness.

When you preach morality, use it as a club to destroy
your enemies? Nope, so sorry, screw you. You're
shit out of luck.

:eyes:

[MODemocrat]

29. One could almost f eel sorry for someone like Hannity

After all, one of their last "heros" is going down, and they really need someone to blame for Rush's downfall. The only hero they have now is Ahhnold. Sean has the Limbaugh demeanor, but, he will never be as powerful as his hero. :boring: :thumbsdown: :kick:

[kaitykaity]

32. No Way in Hell.

No way will I feel sorry for this whining glob of
goo. Uh-uh. Nope.

[LisaM]

8. I was actually listening (briefly) to a conservative show yesterday

and was surprised at how people were actually addressing Limbaugh's hypocrisy. In particular, the callers (all men) were outraged that Tommy Chong had to go to jail and that when Jerry Garcia died, Limbaugh said, "so what, he's just another drug addict." More interestingly, the people were all much more tolerant of addiction than Rush had ever come off as being. I think it will hurt his influence a LOT.

[jenk]

9. Insannity

hey sean, enough of this preachy bullshit.

[CO Liberal]

10. Hannity: "Limbaugh Admitted His Problem"

Of course, he didn't admit it until AFTER it was reported in the National Enquirer and the NY Daily News.

On a related subject, Don Imus went through rehab a few times over the years. But no one knew about it until after he came back - he would just be gone for a few weeks, and then he'd be back talking about whre he'd been. In my mind, that makes Imus a far better person that El Rushbo can ever hope to be.

The GOP is supposed to be the "party of personal responsibility". Why aren't his fellow conservatives pinning any responsibility on Rush for the mess he found himself in? No one forced the doctors to prescribe the stuff initially - no one forced Rush to get the stuff from his housekeeper. It's totally Rush's fault and he should pay the price.

[tishaLA]

20. Imus was very funny this morning about Limbaugh

he said that he is an undisciplined, fat slob who had no business talking about it on the air especially since he only did it because he was caught.

He also said that people go to rehab because they want to quit desparately OR because they can't get access to their drugs any more. Limbuagh is the latter case, Imus said.

[Catholic Sensation]

37. Imus is the only "conservative" I can tolerate

He called the reporters for the New York Post "bed wetting dickheads." But on a note about Rush Limbaugh, he said people who do drugs illegally should be locked up for the maximum sentence possible. I don't know what the max sentence for buying prescription drugs illegally is, but I think Rush should get it, and be placed in a prison with blacks. And since he's such a racist, he could become like Billy Bob Thorton in Monster's Ball, and fall in love with a person of another ethnicity.

[morebunk]

45. Yeah! After his maid turned him in and he was caught.

Since Rush had been in rehab on two other occassions he ample opportunity to come clean with his audience before he was 'outed.'
Nobody is saying that. But that is the truth. If Rush had a problem he could have said it when he went out with is so-called 'deafness' Instead, he tried to milk his audience for all the sympathy he could get instead of saying that he had a 'prescription drug addiction' that he was trying to kick. So he really is a LYING HYPOCRITE no matter how his supporters try to paint the picture. He lied to them!

[wtmusic]

15. I love how Rush compares himself to pro athletes

The difference being, of course, that pro athletes work their asses off to get where they are

[tishaLA]

16. Hannity is annoyed Rush can't do his prep work in rehab

[wabeewoman]

18. Great link

from Carolyn Kay in Make them Accountable: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnists.nsf/Bill+McClellan/25FF9A36D42606EA86256DBE001517F2?OpenDocument&Headline=If+Bill+Clinton+were++an+addict,+here's+how+Rush+might+spin+it

This is why I have no sympathy for rush. This is exactly what he would have done if it were Clinton.
snip
Somewhere in a parallel universe, where we are the same people but things have happened in slightly differently ways, Rush Limbaugh greets his loyal listeners this morning.

"Lots to talk about today. You all know already that Bill Clinton, our former president, has admitted an addiction to prescription drugs.

"It's interesting to see the way the liberal media are playing this. I'm looking at a copy of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Saturday, October 11th, edition - the day after the big announcement. Well, the story is on Page 2, and right next to his photograph, in large boldface print, is the following quote: 'I take full responsibility for this problem.'

"That's interesting, folks, because if you look at his actual statement - not what the liberal media say he said, but what he really said - you get a different take on it. First, he says he's got back problems. So he's blaming it on that. Then he says he had surgery, but the surgery wasn't successful. So he's blaming it on the doctors. Then he says the pain medication was addictive. So he's blaming it on the pharmaceutical companies. Folks, he blames it on everybody but himself! But as long as he puts in that obligatory line about taking responsibility, that's what the liberal media are going to grab: Clinton takes full responsibility!...

[CO Liberal]

21. Someone's Accusing Hannity of Being an Apologist

And Hannity's squirming like the slimy worm that he is.

[kaitykaity]

22. Stacy is making him look bad. He attacked her

right out of the gate. He won't let her
talk.

Poor Hannity. But heck, he let one on the air.

[Fuzz]

23. That was just vicious

what an asshole.

[CO Liberal]

26. Stacy Did Good

Let's hope a few more Stacies can get through today!!!!

[kaitykaity]

28. Vicious. Brutal. Nasty.

And this is right after he gives his sanctimonious
speech about how 'moral' he is and how he feels
bad about himself when he's not 'moral'.

Gee, I wonder if what moral code smiles on the way he
treated Stacy?

:grr::mad:

[CO Liberal]

30. In a Nutshell ......

....anything Hannity says or does is moral - anyone who disagrees with him is immoral.

:crazy:

[CO Liberal]

24. Hannity's Latest "Logic"

There's no hypocrisy in Rush's situation because he never talked about people who abused prescription drugs.

To quote my friend MrBenchley from the Justice/Public Safety board, "What a pantload"!!!!

[jayfish]

38. Searching, But Here Is A Tidbit.

Here is the closest I have come. These are not quotes. They are synopsis’s from the alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and alt.rush-limbaugh USENET newsgroups

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=limbaugh+watch+pain+drugs&start=40&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=jrsCpD2Cs.GyD%40netcom.com&rnum=44

-SNIP-
This experience also shows one reason why Rush is skeptical of
all drugs that alter behavior, especially when they're being used
instead of holding people responsible for their actions. He notes
that his funk was created in part by himself and his own actions;
he was not an innocent victim by any means. Because he didn't
take the drug, he got to the root of his problems, and he fears
many are using drugs precisely to avoid having to do this.

It's becoming common for people to use drugs to get through the
day, and Rush is troubled by this trend.
-SNIP-

Didn't Slush say that he had the opportunity to have but opted against surgery to alleviate his pain?


Still looking for something a little more definitive.

Jay

[jayfish]

40. Here's Some More.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=limbaugh+watch+pain+drugs&start=60&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=jrsCKrJo2.J2v%40netcom.com&rnum=63

-SNIP-
What's the cause of this increased drug use? The Michigan
researchers concluded that the root causes of drug use are
poverty, alienation, inadequate housing, lack of educational
opportunity, poor schools, racism, discrimination, lack of good
jobs, and, of course, as is always the case, Ronald Reagan.

Rush points out, though, that with the exception of Reagan, it's
the use of drugs which causes all of these other things; using
drugs causes life to become worthless, not the other way around.
And if anyone doubts that there is a war on drugs, all they have
to do is to remember that Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders wants
to legalize them.
-SNIP-

Jay

[nomatrix]

44. definition for prescription

prescibe/prescription
written instructions from a physician, dentist, etc., to a pharmacist stating the form, dosage strength, etc., of a drug to be issued to a specific patient the drug or remedy prescribed.

Enabler/Enabling
To enable means to make possible, which has both positive and negative implications. In the addiction field, an enabler is someone who, without intent, helps to support the abusive behavior of the person who uses. An example would be the partner who cleans up the vomit, makes excuses or tries to shield the user from the full consequences of their behavior.

Sean Hannity, Wolf Blitzer, and all the media mouthpieces are enabling Rush Limbaugh to continue his abuse of narcotics, and should be repremanded for it. They are not professionals in the recovery field. In reality they doing a disservice. There are no poster children for recovery. It is a daily reprieve.

[soupkitchen]

25. So Rushs defense is going to be "If the prescription fits you must acquit"

Even if you didn't have a prescription for 3000 pills

[Cappurr]

27. I can speak about this from personal experience....

I, too, was prescribed pain pills (percocet) for a serious back injury. I have a compressed fracture of a lower vertebrae and they wanted to operate on me in the 70s. I refused. The pain got better. But as I got older, it started to become painful again (weight gain didn't much help. :eyes: ) I went to a doctor and he gave me percocet. It wasn't long before I was doubling up on doses, and then taking even more. I had a compliant doctor and he and I grew to be friends, so it was not a problem in getting legitimate prescriptions. He was giving me as many as a hundred a week. Hell, I even put them on my insurance. I was definitely hooked and was no longer taking them for pain. I nearly lost my job (I was a prosecutor at the time) and definitely lost a lot of my reputation. Finally, my employer allowed me to go to rehab and I kept my job. I even started an employees assistance program. But it was a long, hard row to hoe. After about three years, I left with my reputation restored. But wouldn't you know I started using again. Went back to rehab and this time it lasted.

I am just as much a junkie as a guy who uses crack. So is Rush. I never brought street drugs or drugs illegally (although I did tell the doctor I "lost" a prescription here and there). That is the only way I was able to stay in the prosecutor's office. If I had done anything illegal, it would have been all over.

At the worst of my addiction, I took 12 percocet a day. I met a guy in rehab who took thirty a day. I can't imagine the vast amounts that Rush has been taking. I have had no experience with anyone who took that much (and oxycotin is much stronger than the percocet I took). They didn't even have that drug when I was using.

One of the side effects of percocets (and opiates) on people who are addicts is that it makes them think they can do anything. It never made me sleepy like it does to most people -- in fact, it gave me energy. I lost a lot of weight (and so did Rush). If you are an arrogant personality, this drug just magnifies that. And the only way to break it is to get some humility and take a good honest look at yourself. That takes years of therapy and attendance at meetings like AA or NA. I have serious doubts that Limbaugh can ever do the internal work necessary to kick his addiction.

You will know whether he kicks or not. He will gain weight. He will become more mellow in his opinions. His arrogance will soften. And he will be far more honest. You cannot kick an addiction (whether pills, alcohol or street drugs) if you are constantly lying or doing things in your employment that bother your inner conscience. You see, thats why you self-medicate in the first place.....to get away from yourself.

Rush's wealth will make it more difficult for him. Trust me, he may get the best treatment in the world, but he is an empire and millions of dollars are at stake. Just like Elvis, people will cover for him, get him whatever he needs, just to keep him at that mike. They don't give a shit about him....they care only for the money he can make for them.

I don't envy Rush. I pity him. He may keep his supporters, and assholes like Hannity may stick up for him, but none of them give a damn about him. Its all an agenda.

Thats why Rush is a virtual recluse. He rarely leaves his mansion, he doesn't meet the other hosts that cover for him when he isn't there, but communicates with them by phone or email. Addicts eventually live very lonely lives....their drugs are their only friend.

By the way, the second rehab I went to was in West Palm Beach. There is a great recovery community there but I doubt Rush will join it. There is also a great deal of illegal drug selling there. I'm not at all surprised that a pharmacy in West Palm was involved. Where there are recovering addicts, there are pushers. :shrug:

[Mz Pip]

41. Great post

I sort of wondered about the effects that opiates had on personality. Rush always seemed so hyped up. His arrogant personality seemed pretty over the top.

From what I know of addiction, it is important to have a good support system of friends, family etc in addition to the outpatient therapy to rely on when you get out of rehab. Doesn't sound like Rush has that. His statement had a lot of denial in it so I wonder if he's really ready to do the work necessary to beat this.

I took a percodet once. God, I was sick - sweating, vomiting, chills. All that from one damn pill. Maybe I'm lucky that I can't take the stuff.

Congrats to you for kicking it. Your story reveals how difficult it is and I don't think that Rush gets that at all.

MzPip
:dem:

[Raster]

43. what a thread!!! Please see Cappurr's message above.

What a great post. Good journey my friend.

[alcuno]

31. Repeat after me, "compassionate conservative" means

compassion for conservatives.

[jenk]

33. now he's going after GoreTV

.

[CO Liberal]

36. He Said If They Calim to Be Balanced......

... you know they're liberal.

kinda like when Faux News claims they're "fair and balanced", you KNOW they're conservative.

[CO Liberal]

34. And Now Hannity's Defending Pat Robertson!

Hannity: "Do you REALLY think Pat Roberson was serious when he talked about nuking the State Department?"

Damn right I do........

[jayfish]

35. What Ever Happend To The Conswervative Mantra...

"Words mean things"?

Jay

[kaitykaity]

39. That last call before the break was BEAUTIFUL!

"Rush did not criticize from love, as Paul said to do,
but from judgement."

Hannity sputtered for a second, and then he rushed
out to the break.

Whooo hoooo!!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

[morebunk]

42. Hannity really sounded like he needs to be committed to Rehab

for mental illness. His radio show today was worthy of nothing but pity! He is a sick, sick person.

[TacticalPeek]

46. Ice?

:)