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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:31 PM
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CBS News to talk about the fake letters from GI's
will start off with how Saddam is the guy in charge in the Anti American attacks :eyes:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:31 PM
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1. ABC: Bush off golfing
and shows him blasting the press on how they aren't reporting the truth about Iraq
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:14 PM
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15. Well, he's right.
If the American people knew how bad it really is over there, and that there is absolutely no fucking reason we should have gone in there, they'd be standing outside the White House gate with tar and feathers, a rope and a sixteen-foot piece of rusty girder, ready to haul his ass down to the Potomac and throw it in.

And the Secret Service would walk them in and help with the tarring, feathering and tying-on.

Fucking bunch of traitors. I just hope the feds wait till the 25th of December to line them all up against the wall, so they can run the same "The Antichrist has died on Christmas Day" headline that was in the Romanian newspapers the day after they shot the Ceaucescus.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:33 PM
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2. ABC is also talking about the fake letters
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 05:35 PM by Cush
A soldiers mom got one of the letters, it was signed by her son. She said she knew immediately that it wasn't him.

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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:35 PM
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3. Rather: who wrote those letters?
on right now
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:37 PM
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4. ABC said it was Lt Commander
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 05:37 PM by Cush
from the same Infantry Divion (507 or the 503 I think.

I say BS, its part of the propaganda push

Mothers are saying its ok, but it reflects good news.
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:58 PM
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10. CBS interviewed two moms whose sons "wrote" letters
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 05:59 PM by julka
they said letters accurately reflected what they said about what's going on there, so they DIDN/T CARE if they actually wrote them or not!

from a tape of the broadcast made moments ago:

the letters are "an extension of what's called the Hometown news release program." this is quoted from CBS: "pentagon sources," who say the letters originated from a battalion there, whose commander claims it was a "group effort, written by several soldiers."


direct quotes, made from tape.

then, Seattle Post Intelligencer guy (Mark Trahant) comes on next, saying, "is this how our taxpayer dollars are being spent, having someone coming up with letters for people to sign?"

he adds, "and does that affect a better way to have a debate about the policy in Iraq?"

where's the OUTRAGE???


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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:38 PM
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5. local and national news covering it
In Detroit, the local news made a very brief mention, according to my wife. This is issue has been on at least two national news networks in the last couple of minutes. CBS just finished with the story.

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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:41 PM
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6. CBS said it was part of a Letters Home Project
But no one seemed to follow up were this project originated and who funded it. Unless someone comes clean, this will go nowhere.
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kevinc Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:43 PM
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7. hate to say that i told you
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 05:44 PM by kevinc
so...but they said on the news that it was an extension of the Army's "hometown news release program" and isnt that what i said it was?

see here...http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=519265&mesg_id=519265
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:46 PM
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8. Here are my notes from the report
"Letter Controversy"

Adam Connell wrote a letter and the Boston Globe published it. Mother said she immediately knew it was not her son's writing and said he had more things on his mind than writing letters.

(Showed letter in paper. Then Adam with his gun.)

Form later that stated... signed by different soldiers. It was sent to papers from Charlton, WVA to CA. Commander describes it as a group effort.

Mark Trahant of Seattle PI asks (didn't get all this).

Mtn View Telegraph.

Mother says sentiment is consistent with her son's conversation.

Family members say it tells a story of success they are happy has been told.


Cher


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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:56 PM
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9. I love that it followed
Bush* complaining about the way the "good news" is not being heard because of the filters! So it is wrong to filter his news but not wrong for the public to get fake letters from soldiers? Hmmmmm
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clemencia2us Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:00 PM
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11. dan rather
I thought that was funny too. Did you hear what Bush said about the immunizations - "millions of kids, maybe thousands are getting shots". Dan Rather loved it.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:04 PM
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13. I have always
respected Dan. True he has not been telling us the truth but I think he wants to and my guess is that once something big really hits (I know, how many times?)he will run with it. Although, maybe I am just old and remember him in the past.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:02 PM
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12. it shows that there are GOP political commissars in the army
this must be understood. it is a blatant, overt, and treasonable politicization of the US military.
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:08 PM
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14. seen this?
A seventh soldier didn't know about the letter until his father congratulated him for getting it published in the local newspaper in Beckley, W.Va.

"When I told him he wrote such a good letter, he said: 'What letter?' " Timothy Deaconson said Friday, recalling the phone conversation he had with his son, Nick. "This is just not his (writing) style."

He spoke to his son, Pfc. Nick Deaconson, at a hospital where he was recovering from a grenade explosion that left shrapnel in both his legs.


http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:15 PM
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16. Is the soldiers' access to US media really so broad?
According to the "personal" letter, they take issue with cnn and msnbc (not Fox):

I'd like to tell you all about my experience here so far because, if you've been watching the news lately, there is a lot you haven't heard … and a lot of what you HAVE heard is WRONG (or at best, badly skewed).

We have access to cable news via satellite TV in our brigade TOC (Tactical Operations Center), namely, CNN and MSNBC, so I get the same news that you are getting back home from America's "finest" journalists. As most of you know, I have never held the American mainstream media in very high esteem. But never could I have guessed that America's "most trusted news" sources could be SO far off the mark about such an important story - the U.S. occupation of Iraq and the planting of the first true democracy in the Arab world in all of history.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section=40&screen=news&news_id=27270

It's incredible that the message here lines up so closely with the Bush admin's latest indictment of the war coverage. Too incredible to me, but whatcha gonna do? :shrug:




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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:32 PM
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17. It is not okay to forge signatures on letters
and send them to propagandize the US public. This is mail fraud, forgery and illegal use of public resources to conduct a political campaign.
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:07 PM
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18. you sure about the legal ramifications?
if this is true, it should be a HUGE deal. Forgery? does that apply in this context? would like to know......

just imagine what they'dve done during the Clinton admin.

a special prosecutor for each letter?

BTW, Aaron Brown (without him, the smug twit), will be doing a segment on this at 9:31, CDT.



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:23 PM
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19. I am glad to read in those letters that the GIs are very happy and...
everything is peaceful and wonderful. I think we have enough proof here to extend their tours of duty in Iraq, and since it is so peaceful there, there is no need for them to get combat pay.

Now, let's wait for the real letters home!

:mad:
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