Mike Malloy is talking about "the form letter the Soldiers were forced to

[Cha]

sign! The astro turf letters ..that are now being investigated..
Ha! the truth got out!

http://www.mikemalloy.com/listen.html

[Cha]

1. Some reporters got together and were viewing the letters

across the Nation from a "chain of newspapers" and noticed they were "identical".

[Cha]

2. The scource is

http://wwww.capitalhillblue.com

[FlashHarry]

3. Do we know they were 'forced?'

Their CO is saying they signed 'voluntarily.' Somehow, I doubt it, but we should be careful.

[Patriot_Spear]

4. I guess you've never been in the Army Flash...

When your Company Commander 'asks' you to do something- unless you want the shittiest duty possible from then on out- you comply.

[Cha]

6. It's not like debutante ball cotillian, eh?

Just heard on the news on Mike Malloy that Soldiers were being "congratulated on writing the letter from their home towns" and the Soldiers said they didn't write them.."what letter"?


neo cons are so Freakin' Stupid they had them sign the same letter!

[FlashHarry]

7. That's kind of what I figured!

I just don't want anything to blow up in our faces. Just being careful...

[Cha]

9. That's cool! Pays to be careful!

:)

[Skittles]

28. LOL!

YES, I remember when it was "SUGGESTED" that I donate blood. Either that or cleanup duty all freaking weekend. :O

[Cha]

5. That's what was said on Mike Malloy! "Forced"...

I didn't get the Soldiers name but he didn't want to sign it because he didn't agree with it and then from there it was understood he was to sign it anyway.

the archives are on http://www.whiterosesociety.org

There is going to be more about it after commercial.

[0rganism]

8. speaking of whiterosesociety.org

The archives I was trying to reach two days ago were on homepage.mac.com, which resolves to 17.250.248.32 for me. That site has been unpingable for me since Saturday night. How about you?

[Cha]

11. I haven't tried to listen to any archives...yet!

Try calling them at 1-800-talk-yes and telling them your prob!

[Bozita]

27. I listened to Mike's Friday show late Sunday afternoon.

Everything was fine.

[Rose Siding]

24. No, we don't know that

If there has been any credible reporting about that, it should be cited. As it stands, the reprts we do have say that the sigs were voluntary and it isn't a good idea, imo, to assume that the soldiers didn't mean it unless we hear it from them.

The astroturf method is bad enough without suggesting that soldiers in a war zone didn't mean what the available quotes say they mean!

[Cha]

36. You should listen to the archives of this Show then...

Because it seems it is now "lettergate"...and the Soldiers did Not know what they were signing! and in fact denied writing them...

"11 Newspapers had same letter..

West Virginia newspaper got letter and father congratulated son and his son said "I didn't write it"..

[julka]

38. you are correct....that Olympian story quotes the father

from Beckley, WVA, IIRC, where I spent the week one night.

here......

"A seventh soldier didn't know about the letter until his father congratulated him for getting it published in the local newspaper in Beckley, W.Va.

"When I told him he wrote such a good letter, he said: 'What letter?' " Timothy Deaconson said Friday, recalling the phone conversation he had with his son, Nick. "This is just not his (writing) style."

He spoke to his son, Pfc. Nick Deaconson, at a hospital where he was recovering from a grenade explosion that left shrapnel in both his legs."

no shame at all

[Cha]

41. If the story doesn't go anywhere...because of a big Halt on it....

AT Least maybe the "letters" will Stop! :kick:

[dofus]

10. Yesterday I was at a forum

with the editor of the editorial page of my local newspaper, and were told that she and all or most of the reporters and editorial staff of that newspaper are on various listservs, and that reporters share much of this kind of stuff with each other. This paper, at least, does not want to print any kind of form letter or "astroturf" and try hard not to. They do require a phone number and contact the writer before publishing. Every so often they still get burned, but not a lot.

[Cha]

12. Well, this is Just Another Example of bushProgogada that

is using the "blood of our young Soldiers" for their purpose!


Now he's talking about the bushes' didn't include "body armour for urban gorilla warfare" into their budget.

And now some relatives are buying armour for their loved ones.

[eleny]

13. Relatives are buying soldiers body armor

Malloy just shared that. Evidently, Bush didn't even include body armor in his 87Billion request. It would cost $1500. for each soldier.

[frank frankly]

14. I think Code Name D is a DUer

sounds really familiar

[Cha]

15. Code_Name_D is on now!

"Lost in Translation"

"bush has got $87million coming but it's not going to Iraqis ..it's going to halliburton, betchtel.." An Iraqi business man~

"Corrupt is what it is" ...

"What's it gonna take, Code_Name_D" ..."It's gonna take the French to come down here and Liberate us"!

:kick:

[Code_Name_D]

26. Guilty as charged.

And man, I am kicking myself for not getting to the zinger. It had me laughing out loud/vomiting. Here is what I remember. Man, I even rehersed it while I was on hold.

Texan: "You see, I am trying to build a consortium. And I want you to be in this consortium. And it will only cost you $15,000 a month to get on the list."

Iraqi: "I can't afford it." (This was supposable one of the wealthiest families in Iraq.) "Can't we come to another arraignment?"

Texan: "No. We can't come to another arraignment. Why? How do you think its done?"

Iraqi: "Well I give you contract and you give me money. Why should I give you money for contract? Especially when I can not afford it."

Texan: "Now you see. That is socialism. Socialism is dead, gone. Its history. I am talking about capitalism. You give me money for you contracts."

These guys are crooks. Pure and simple.

[Cha]

34. I liked your word..on the Malloy SHow! "Corrupt"!

:kick:

[Code_Name_D]

39. They are corupt.

Something vary similar took place in the dark ages. The king would reword a friend or some one by making them into a land lord. And the land lord had a right to extract graft from the persons on his property.

What I heard on the radio is just as bad. It's a state sanctioned graft. The Iraqi has to pay a monthly gratuity just for the privilege of doing business. Once the gratuity stops, then the business stops flowing in. Its imperialism of the worst order. It was exactly this sort of "capitalism" that promoted the colonies to declare their independence.

This will NOT rebuild Iraq. This will make them into economic and political slaves, and will siphon even more recourses out of Iraq.

[Cha]

40. It will Not Work!

Just like the way bush went in ..in the first place Was wrong and it ain't gonna get right until bush is Out and someone with some Scruples takes Over.

[Clete]

16. It's out and it's not going away. Maybe the media

isn't as bad as we thought. Maybe they needed something like this, which hits even the freepers to get their story out. Using the military as propaganda.....baaaaaad.

[Cha]

17. I wonder if the Creeps in charge of the 3rd Reich had

anything like this goin' on ?..or is this fresh from the neo nazis?

[Clete]

20. Don't know. The German military were a nation

unto themselves. They put their might behind whichever leader they thought would be best and serve their interests and Germany the best. However, once they threw their might behind Hitler, he used them as he needed them and eliminated those who didn't see his way. Eventually, he got rid of the troublesome Generals, promoted the ones he could control, giving them all kinds of things they liked like Iron Crosses. One day he made himself commander and chief of all the military, appointed his lackeys to run each service and executing the others for treason if they were lucky enough to even have a kangaroo court trial. I don't think it's all that fresh.

[Cha]

18. "genet(?)corporation"? Ediorial slant?

How do you spell this?

On board of directors of Lockheed Martin and genet..Douglas Mccorkindale..

H.jesse darnelle ..board of director

Genet USA today?

Genet in 2000 tried to obfuscate the fact that Al Gore Really won!

[Bozita]

30. Gannett as in USA Today

[Cha]

33. Thanks ..I didn't know how to spell ...since I don't know from

big Corps..

[Cha]

19. "bush and felons work well together"

"birds of a feather"

[eleny]

21. "Lettergate" ?

[Cha]

23. Yes! Now we have a "Lettergate" on our hands!

The astroturf letters from the "form letters from the Soldiers in Iraq" Word is Out!

[Cha]

22. Mike is asking "what's it gonna take" and I say why do

we have to Wait until we have a Vietnam or close to it before we Change our Foreign Policy?

[Cha]

25. Mike just said "democraticunderground.com was the best

political site on the web"..."bartcop.com is #2" "democrats.com is #3" and "Kathy, what are we?" :kick:

[julka]

29. see these links

original story, with some

letters:

http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml

discussions already started:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=528254

[Cha]

32. Thanks for these julka! The second link doesn't

link to anything, though!

Thank you, so much!

[julka]

35. oops! try this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=529450

[Cha]

37. Thanks!

Sounds like another story with the proverbial Legs!

[Cha]

31. And Michael was talking to a dittohead today..

This guy on Malloy is neat...he said he downloaded Friday's show with "Skyblue on" ...that was so Funny..had us all in sticthes!


Michael from New Jersey(Plainfield)...& dittohead says soldiers will deflect terrorists from coming over here.