Some kind of internal strife at Freak Republic; site barely running!

[Paragon]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/999117/posts

I read as much as I could stomach, and I'm still not sure what's going on. Something about lousy returns for their recent pledge drive and an old Freep moderator who split off and started his own site?

Whatever it is, it seems to have the Freepers' collective panties in a bunch - almost 3000 posts. Any lurkers know what's going on and if, please God, it means the end to the Freaks as we know it? (OK, probably not - but I can dream, can't I?)

(on edit - traffic is down to a slow crawl today, with plenty of "The page cannot be displayed" messages...Freeps can't pay their bills? :D )

[Wickerman]

1. Financial Shenanigans amongst Repugglies

Nah, say it isn't so.

Sorry, I don't ahve any idea what is going on over there. I can't tolerate the stench. Also, I hate the threaded discussion look - impossible to find anything. Its so 90's.

[Maple]

2. I sincerely hope this started it!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=527823

[WilliamPitt]

3. Best. Thread. Ever.

[TruthIsAll]

59. Freeps. In. Turmoil. Need. More. Of. This. Kind.

...

[Paragon]

4. Yes, that's it!

Thanks for the heads up. FR's style is so fucked up, it's impossible to figure out what's going on.

Now how to get this guy audited somehow...:D

[maha]

15. I must be psychic!

I'm guessing ... you're a Cubs fan?

[arcane1]

7. I need to read this thread every day when the outrage gets to me

It has such a calming, almost narcotic effect :-)

[Evil_Dewers]

8. I sincerely hope that started it, since I started it.

FreeRepublic is really slow today.

[XanaDUer]

11. Thanks for that!

I laughed and laughed!

[janekat]

17. ROTFLMAO!

n/t

[ps1074]

5. LOL

<snip>
One would think that with half again as many Freepers. with a recovering economy, It would take a great deal less time to raise the necessary funds
</snip>

Have you noticed their past fund raising goals was met for a week or 10 days max? The current freeper fund raising is there for over 2 weeks now and still they haven't met their goal...

Is it because of the 'recovering economy' or because freepers are in recovery mode realizing what a joke FR is?

[HEyHEY]

6. Big shocker all the freeps "gave at the office"

Cheap bastards finally did it to themselves

[WilliamPitt]

9. I wouldn't give money to a scam, either.

[Maple]

10. Yes, a big thank you to Evil_Dewer

because that seems to have set them off.

And it's about time they realized what the Freeper set-up is.

Well...they say 'eavesdroppers never hear anything good about themselves' and I guess this is the ultimate revenge on Freep lurkers and disruptors here. :D

[denverbill]

12. Damn. Appears to be a Christian vs atheist thing.

It's strange though. RimJob never mentioned Christianity in his mea culpa.

I have a feeling evildewer may be right. Rimjob talks about how somebody is gonna spill the beans on him on October 18. If it turns out RimJob is making tons of moolah and exaggerating expenses, freeperville is gonna be a ghost town.

[Maple]

13. I lurked there since pretty much day one

and it used to be an interesting place. Partisan of course, but no viciousness...and a lot of good science threads.

A few nutbars, but kept in check for the most part.

JimBob used to be atheist and never let religious wars develop either.

After Bush got in, the place really changed.

JimBob got religion, the threads really got vicious, and some oldtimers disappeared, many willingly, many banned....and a lot of strange types signed in. They wanted to nuke everybody, make a sea of glass out of every country outside the US.

And there were always pledge drives...but if anyone queried how much it actually cost to run the site they were either ousted or told it was the result of all the lawsuits...which seemed to be mounting.

So sooner or later, whatever secrets the place held, they were bound to come out.

[denverbill]

23. Hmm. Well, I've posted there for a few years.

And I actually got into a few evolution/creation debates. Some religious folks could debate pretty decently, others were lame, but I never had any problem getting banned for it or having threads pulled. Of course, I must admit I haven't done any religious debating there for the last year or so.

I can't wait for Saturday.

[prolesunited]

14. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!

LOL!

I love the delusional thinking over there, too. Just cause you say "Recovering economy" over and over again, it doesn't magically become true.

Funny how when we had our last fund drive, we met our goal in record time.

Rush and Freeperville going down in the same week — I think we best be going out and buying lottery tickets.

[Patriot_Spear]

18. DU meets goal in record time- FR fund drive dies linger death...

What does it mean?

[Terwilliger]

16. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of folks

[judge_smales]

19. I'm supposing he needs the money to support his

Oxy habit.

[janekat]

20. Some freeper "banees" opened a competing site where there's no censorship

What a NOVEL idea! NO CENSORSHIP!

From what I can gather - the owners or moderators of the new site are supposed to post something on the freeper board on the 18th and Jim R. is scared and trying to "head them off at the pass."

Oh how all of the icons of the right are falling...

http://www.libertypost.org/

Sounds good to me. It looks to be much better than the "freeper" site (for a Republican anyways). I'll bet the Freepers who have half a brain and who are tired of hearing the propaganda of Free Republic and tired of their fascist practices will go there. In addition, all of the "banees" from there (I'm sure there's many) will go to the site.

"Liberty Post is offered for use as the modern day electronic "town crier" or "broadside." As such, all political news and discussion, as well as current events, news of the day, scientific, medical and technical advances are welcome for discussion. We do not limit discussion to any specific political point of view, since truth can only exist where there is freedom to discuss those issues. There is no censorship of political ideas here.

.....no political point of view will be censored under any circumstances.

Spirited debate, varied opinions and points of view are the lifeblood of Liberty. We welcome you to our site and challenge you to participate in the exercise of your First Amendment rights in debating political issues! But caution is advised: this Liberty can be addicting, and the experience of open political dialog that may cause you to be exposed to ideas and people that can change your life dramatically."

[havocmom]

22. "Oh how the icons of the right are falling" amen

Some fall, some are pushed, some were just standing on unstable ground to begin with. Seems that some are resorting to a form of cannabalism (think Rove, Chicken Dick, Rummy & Rice)

Some FR donors may be holding back cuz they are getting letters from Iraq begging for food and Gator Aide! Has to have an impact on the family budget to pay taxes, have them funneled to Halliburton to supposedly provide food for the troops and still have your kin write and beg for food and beverages to be shipped. Talk about having to double dip...

Now, if we get to see Robetson's $$$ drop like a rock, I'll pop open that French bubbly I have stashed away for a sunny day. Care to join me in some brie?

[janekat]

27. For sure....

I've got some old champagne laying around here somewhere....

[IkeWarnedUs]

48. just peeked at the new site

It looks interesting, but they are posting entire published articles. Are they in danger of copywrite trouble?

[janekat]

52. I always thought that you are in danger of copyright infringement if

if you publish much more than a tiny snippet. My mother and I have a book that's copyrighted (some stupid real estate book - nothing too terribly interesting) and truthfully, we would only go after someone if they sold it or if a competitor used it. And even then - we would just tell them to "knock it off." I think that very few writers would bother with actually suing someone. Some are even flattered that someone thinks enough of their article to use it.

Personally, I would actually rather see someone publish a WHOLE article of mine rather than just part of it....

Somebody "stole" a picture from one of my websites (which is also copyrighted) but credited me for it which ordinarily wouldn't bother me if it hadn't been a totally "dorky" site and I didn't want to be affiliated with their site. I just asked them politely to remove my name from the site. Didn't even really care that they used my photo.

As far as that political site goes - I would really kind of assume that the papers would enjoy the exposure and marketing they receive. You can also write and ask permission for using an article.

[donotpassgo]

21. THE SKINNY FROM HOW I SEE IT (LINKS)...

There is A LOT of dissension in the ranks starting from the top down. A lot of big money donors have been banned for differing political viewpoints.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rpf_2/message/177

In fact A LOT of people have been banned for going against the grain:

http://www.freerepublicsucks.s5.com/

Since being labled a hate group...I think the money from they get from RNC is being witheld...that's just a theory I have.

Those "page cannot be displayed" messages is just a way to drum up donations as a warning that FR could look like that without more dontaions. Unfortunately for them many in FR have folllowed the advice of splinter posters and not given money. One big reason...FR struggles and JimRob flaunts his brand new RV.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/967202/posts

http://www.geocities.com/sentryusa2000/FRpost1.htm

So dissent, JimRob being the Nazi he is and banning long time donors, flaunting his wealth to the cash strapped knuckledraggers, and plain hypocrisy have landed FR where they are today. A true conservative operation at work. Welcome to the real world Freepers.

[NoKingGeorge]

24. Rush needs the money for lawyers

Hey maybe TheCyst supported the asylum to maintain an audience. Maybe rimjob is analcyst?
Maybe once the drug money dried up ....

[Must_B_Free]

26. Does anyone have a picture of the RV those suckers bought him?

.

[hexola]

25. FreeRepublic DOWN!!!

Proxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET /focus/news/browse.

Reason: Could not connect to remote machine: Connection refused

[TrogL]

29. It's working fine

Woohoo!! Less than $5.3k to go!! Thank you FReepers and Lurkers!!

GRRRR. Why, oh why do I get sucked into going over there.

In two minutes I've got enough material for 5 rants. I'm trying to get some work done today.

[donotpassgo]

28. RUSH AND JIMROB IN BED...

I think the whole Rush assault was in part to stifle DU and deflect the FR problems.

OReilly made a passing mention on his talking points about not believing what liberal internet sites (DU perhaps) has to say about him and Terry Gross.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[IndianaGreen]

30. Hey, that Liberty Org is one funny website....

Schwarzenegger Appoints Kobe Bryant Special Prosecutor to Investigate his Sex Charges

Title: Schwarzenegger Appoints Kobe Bryant Special Prosecutor to Investigate his Sex Charges
Source: Internet Weekly Report
URL Source: http://www.internetweekly.org/photo_cartoons/cartoon_schwarzenegger_kobe.html
Published: Oct 14, 2003
Author: staff
Post Date: 2003-10-14 13:00:07 by Drug Limbaugh



SACRAMENTO, CA (IWR) - Governor Elect Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today the appointment of Kobe Bryant as Special Prosecutor to investigate allegations of sexual misconduct made against Mr. Schwarzenegger during the California recall campaign.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=25114

[donotpassgo]

34. There's a lot of sore McClintock supporters...

that got shat upon when the Republicans and the higher ups on FR sold them down the river to get a taste of that 'Ole Arnie Magic'

[Wickerman]

31. hmmmm

(It's rally just a behind the scenes conspiracy to sex-up the current fundraising drive that's stuck in the doldrums. BADJOE was the best fundraiser we ever had. Raised something over $700,000 over a three year period or so. Connect the dots.)

19 posted on 10/10/2003 2:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Now, jsut what the fuck would a site do with 230k a year? that buys a lot of bandwidth.

[Evil_Dewers]

32. RimJob speaks out...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/993189/posts?page=1382#1382

To: All

Just received the following email complaint from an ex-FReeper, now anti-FReeper and LPer:



Subject: Re: Your Password
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:01:52 EDT
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]


Why do you lie to freepers? Admit you make a living off
them. I guess God knew to stick shit in a chair, you reap what you sow.
Hope you hate life in that chair, you deserve it.


If there is anyone here who doesn't understand that the bulk of the "Administrative" line item on our budget report (see our secure server donation page) goes to me, well I guess I didn't make it clear enough. So, "I'm coming clean" (as this AFer/LPer calls it). Free Republic consumes all of my time for approximately 12 to 16 hours per day, 7 days per week, 365 days per year. Even take a laptop when I travel so I can log in on the road. I do not take a salary as I am not an emloyee of the company (there are no employees of Free Republic, LLC), but I am the majority owner and I do take a draw from time to time when I need it and if there are funds available. It is budgeted in with all the rests of the costs necessary to keep FR on the air. Thank you all very much!! Jim

1,382 posted on 10/05/2003 8:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1376 | View Replies >

By his own admission on his website, RimJob pays himself the bulk of $90,000 a year in "administrative" expenses just to surf the internet. This is in addition to the amount he steals from the other over-inflated expense accounts. RimJob is a guilty of felony fraud, grand larceny and mail fraud, since he is scamming people for money across state lines. C'mon freepers, ask for RimJob's financial statements (tax returns) that he files with the great state of California and with the Internal Revenue Service. What a scumbag!

Aren't you freepers pissed that you paid for RimJob's new RV? Idiots. Audit this mo-fo and stop sending him your money. You need to keep all your "hard-earned" money in this lousy Bush economy.

The site is getting hammered today.

502 Proxy Error

Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid
response from an upstream server.

The proxy server could not handle the request GET /focus/site/user-posts.

Reason: Could not connect to remote machine: Connection refused

[IndianaGreen]

36. Gee, I would like to see Jim Rob's tax returns

and how he declares that money that he "dips" into.

[pretzel4gore]

33. please remember, bushinc's NOT afraid of us.....but them!

bushinc KNOWS what the righties will do to them when the truth gets out...they literally quail at the idea that the freeps ever go after them...i betcha Free Republic's troubles aren't all just bad acting etc....maybe DU should start a rescue op(?)

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

35. Ties betweer FR & RNC and possibly Rove Discusses by ex-Freep (link)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24935

<snip>
This comment from Fred Mertz plus the RNC connection to FR I was told about tell me that Karl Rove (very dirty tactics) and perhaps even Bush himself are ultimately behind the terrible way people are being treated and muzzled at FR. I personally believe but can not prove that Bush is the type of person that would have arranged for others to out Wilson wife even though I am no admirer of Wilson or the dirty Democratic tactics. Bush like his father plays dirty just like the Democrats just ask Cal ( a good Republican female) who worked for Alan Keyes.
<snip>

Interesting?

[Dover]

51. What freepers don't seem to understand, and have NEVER

understood is that this is EXACTLY what the Bush administration is doing to people in a very methodical manner. Maybe they'll finally wake up when their bank accounts are empty, or they can't put their kid through school, etc.

[Blue-Jay]

37. hmmmm.

So you guys are saying that a Republican is being less than forthcoming regarding his finances? The hell, you say!

Step 1: Start website.
Step 2: ??????
Step 3: Profit!

[donotpassgo]

38. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24799

The whole shebang laid out here.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

42. Wow. Arnie really opened up the seams in Freeperland

fatally so it seems. Hmmmm...... Where can we go with this?

I read most of that thread BTW.

[VolcanoJen]

39. Best. Thread. Ever. Motion. Seconded.

:bounce:

[Minstrel Boy]

40. Every freakin' time I visit that place

I get a sick headache, like when I walk into a dollar store for one damn thing, but I'm forced to sift through aisles of shit I can't even bear to look at.

[Wickerman]

41. Sorry, but the dollar store rocks compared to FR

FR looks like the webpage my little sister would've constructed had I had one.

[Evil_Dewers]

43. LMGDMFAO

I love it when conservatives eat their own. I wish we libs/Dems/progressives would stop doing it as well.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24799&Disp=All&

130. To: bunnyrabbit (#128)

To: Jim Robinson
"$50.37 from California "

Strange.


265 posted on 10/10/2003 4:49 PM PDT by blam < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 252 | View Replies >

Hope that donor didn't clean out the bank account and sit down with a glass of grape kool-aid.








133. To: chnsmok (#130)

"$50.37 from California "
How much of an RV would $0.37 buy?

bunnyrabbit posted on 2003-10-10 19:58:34 ET Reply Trace

[twilight]

44. sometimes ...

sometimes being visually impaired ain't so bad - thought your post read that one of the old moderator's split and committed suicide rather that started his own site! LOL!!!

:evilgrin:

[Loyal]

45. Can someone explain what's going on?

I'm kinda lost, and I looked through that Fr thread but I don't understand it. :shrug:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

46. They've had a Minor Rebellion there for a little while

and it's reflected in the poor fund raising results. but what I noticed reading the libertypost.com thread is that Arnold was the straw that broke the back- since it opened up the pro-life Freepozoid wounds to those conservatives who really don't give a shit about any "litmus test" on GOP candidates. SO long as they get elected and have an R next to the name.
But be warned: the libertypost freepers STILL love Bush.

[Loyal]

47. haha oh ok

nt

[Evil_Dewers]

49. The libertypost freepers STILL love Bush

No they don't. They don't believe $450 billion deficits are a good thing. They bitch about the $87 billion for Iraq costing them $600 a piece.

[janx]

50. He starts those threads whenever really bad things happen--

like the Rush news and Bush's slipping poll numbers. They are a distraction.

[snippy]

53. The Grand Kreeper always slows down the server if donations lag.

[grasswire]

54. their donations increased when the fight started...

...and so there is some talk that the flap was created in order to juice the fundraising.

[snippy]

55. The Grand Kreeper always does something "to juice the fundraising."

Sometimes he threatens that he will be forced to shut the site down if that is what the kreepers really want, sometimes he slows down the site or even takes it offline for a few hours, sometimes he tries to focus kreeper anger. Sometimes he does all three.

[leftofthedial]

56. Freepron

too late to bail now. you're retirement is done gone.

[oasis]

57. kick

[proud patriot]

58. Cool

B-)

[Rex]

60. Their bloated God, Rush Lipid, has fallen from grace.

It has sent shockwaves to all four corners of the freeper's world.

[proud patriot]

61. LOL

Those shockwaves sound mighty fine too

[roguevalley]

62. How come we don't have a memorial wall?

They have a memorial wall for departed freepers. 19 in all.
Sort of macabre if you ask me. <SHIVER>