ABC talking about their New Poll

[Cush]

Totally different than the Gallup

[Cush]

1. Lol

The White House says that this poll is bad news for the Bush Critics, not for Bush himself

He's still popular, blah blah blah

[TheBlob]

2. Yeah

Some nitwit just said "Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton would have killed for these numbers"

What the fcuk is this guy smoking?

[diplomats]

16. They've been saying that for weeks

But Reagan and Clinton were on their way up in the polls at this point in their presidencies, not down. The trend matters more than the absolute numbers.

[Qutzupalotl]

20. Bush killed for even higher numbers,

but look where it got him.

[59millionmorons]

3. yes

Once again with these morons. Up is down, down is up ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[DEMActivist]

4. What does the poll say?

Sorry, must have missed it...

[Cush]

5. oh..

and the now Tax Cuts are working?

WTF??

If people buy this crap......

[ShaneGR]

6. wtf are the results?

please

[TheBlob]

9. 53% approval

n/t

[Capn Sunshine]

10. "unnamed democrat" BEATS Shrub for re-elect.! That's what

Bush vs. Generic Democratic Candidate for '04
% Vote for Bush % Vote for Democrat
4/30/03 53 40
8/11/03 48 40
9/13/03 49 44
10/13/03 46 47

[jame]

7. Ego problem?

I'vee never seen a "News" organization talk more about thier own polls than ABC.

[diplomats]

13. CNN does it, too

[jono]

14. Try watching

CNN, or FOX, or MSNBC, or...

[newyawker99]

28. Hi jame!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Julien Sorel]

8. Poll Link:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Politics/iraq_economics031014_poll.html

[Capn Sunshine]

11. note they used the "halo " pic

damn those propagandist bastards

[Julien Sorel]

12. Also, according to this poll, Dean is the national frontrunner,

which is inconsistent with every other poll I've seen. The difference is within the moe, but Clark led in a poll released in the last few days by a margin greater than the moe. Somebody's numbers are off, or else there has been a big swing in sentiment in a short time period, with the absence of any stimulus.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

15. It Pretty Much Confirms What We've Known

That it's a Dean-Clark race, with the occasional Gephardt/Kerry/Lieberman outlier.

This is the second national poll to show Dean ahead, with the other one being Dean by one point. Clark has about eight national polls with him ahead.

It's an evolving position, though, so it'll be interesting to see the evolution of polls over the next few weeks.

DTH

[Julien Sorel]

17. Where's the other poll? I must have missed it.

[tedoll78]

19. That's a good thing.

I'm very very strongly a Dean man (unemployed, but have sent him some $$$).. but if the polls towards the end consistently show that Clark will definitely beat Bush compared to Dean, I will switch in a heartbeat. This is the first time I've admitted this in public, but I really really want that m#therf!cker out of the White House.

[CWebster]

23. So, it is all about the polls?

All the more reason to skew them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Considering The Gallup Poll, The Newsweek Poll, and the ABC Poll

overlap I'll attribute it to polling error...

[diplomats]

21. Look at it this way

Clark's support in this poll doubled from 6 prercent in mid-September to 12 percent now.

[Capn Sunshine]

22. I think it ( as usual) depends on HOW you frame the ?

and WHO you ask. You ask registered democrats the answer comes up Dean. You spread it a little, say dems who supported drafting Gore in 04 , or DLC or indie dems , you get Clark.

Either way its absolutley kiler news for all dems. The facade is crumbling. America is smarter than we thought.

[wyldwolf]

24. which says something..

huh?

Someone here months ago talked about a US poll conducted by a candian research firm that found Bush's rating 15 points or so lower than the national polls. It would have put him at 45% at a time when Gallup was saying 60%.

Anyone else remember?

[kaitykaity]

25. kick

:kick:

[Beetwasher]

26. Gallup's Credibility Has Just Been Demolished

This poll further confirms the general downward trend.

If you look at Gallup's last three polls you'll see something very interesting. The poll taken 9/19-9/21 has Bush at 50%. The next one taken around 2 weeks later on 10/6-10/8 has him at 55%. Around 2 weeks time is a normal break between their polls if you look at the history. However, they did something very interesting. They took another poll 2 days later 10/10-10/12, that had him at 56%. Now why did they do that?

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

[jeter]

27. It's also 44% for Bush to 49% for Dem among

"registered voters"

This means that the poll is among "likely voters" which means that they aren't counting as many Democrats (as usual).

Still his numbers are dropping. Which means among registered voters his approval rating is probably in the 40s.

Fuck Gallup. They are so pro-Bush that it isn't funny.

Obviously Bushies numbers are dropping, why else would they be going on this media offensive?