Conservative declares second American civil war!

[wyldwolf]

******Warning*******

This comes from a very conservative site. I'm posting this as a DU public service so we can glimpse inside the minds of these wackos.

It tried to set the left up as the boogyman that fuels republican politics.


Get barf bags ready...


you were warned....



turn back know if you are faint of heart....




Once again the North and the South are at odds (though many individuals on each side identify with the other). And once again, the fate of the nation hangs in the balance. The two sides' values and visions of America are as incompatible as they were in the 1860s.

While the views of many, probably even most, Americans do not fall entirely on either side, the two competing camps are quite distinguishable. On one side are those on the Left -- liberals, leftists and Greens -- who tend to agree with one another on almost all major issues. On the other side are those on the Right -- conservatives, rightists and libertarians -- who agree on stopping the Left, but differ with one another more often than those on the Left do.

Here, then, is Part One of the list of the major differences that are tearing America apart:

The Left believes in removing America's Judeo-Christian identity, e.g., removing "under God" from the Pledge, "In God we trust" from the currency, the oath to God and country from the Boy Scouts Pledge, etc. The Right believes that destroying these symbols and this identity is tantamount to destroying America.

blah blah blah...

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20031014.shtml

Be sure to contact the author here:

http://cf.townhall.com/contact/columnists.cfm?ID=50&Post=10109

[Capn Sunshine]

1. What does this have to do with Clark?

or are you branching out into the real world? :evilgrin:

[wyldwolf]

2. I asked you yesterday to do a search on my posts for a ratio breakdown...

...and I thought you would.

:)

[La_Serpiente]

3. Sign me up for the union

Sign me up for the union...if it's a war they want, it's war they will get.

[wyldwolf]

4. Just by casting your vote next year for the candidate with the ( D )...

... will garner you a position on the winning side...

[Capn Sunshine]

5. And his worthy VP too

[Mike_from_NoVa]

6. Well, he's got ME pissed off

If his beloved "Right" believes in liberty so freakin' much, how about preserving MY freedom to IGNORE the god-concept? I am so tired of this in-your-face god getting drizzled all over MY America. Don't want to hear about it in the Pledge Allegiance to MY Flag. Don't want it on MY money. Don't want dopey statues in MY courthouse. Don't want to hear any songs about it blessing MY America.

If he likes his god-concept so much, he can have it. Be a monk. Live in a church 24/7. Go sit on Pat Robertson's lap. But, don't shove it down MY throat, pal. And stop ignoring MY Constitution.

I think all this rabble rousing is evidence he actually wants a violent civil war. The jerk.

[StaggerLee]

8. My brother has a 1922 silver dollar

I was looking at it this weekend. The word God is not present. The word Peace is.
Hmmmmm...

[Mountainman]

7. These guys sit behind a computer screen and type this shit out

but they never really put anything on the line. Just like rimjob and his minions in freeperville. They are mentally disturbed puppies with dilutions of grandeur.

Just once I would like to see one of them volunteer to take the place of one of the soldiers from Iraq who are home on leave.

Just once I would like to see them really pony up with some of their assets.

Instead of inciting people to war and hate against each other get the hell out of your chair and risk something like your life for what you believe in!

[Bossy Monkey]

18. "dilutions of grandeur": best typo ever! (or turn of phrase, if you did it

on purpose). Not criticising at all, as I do this kind of thing all the time, but never come up with something so witty! :)

[VOX]

9. "The Boy Scouts...pose a moral threat to society." WTF?????

Did he mention that the Left wants to nuke mom and apple pie?

What bothers me most about these RW hatemongers is that they whip up the more impressionable (read: "dumb") members of our society.

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. It seems fairly balanced to me

He's actually characterised my beliefs fairly well (though he does seem to have an obsession with the Scouts). And a lot of what I don't like about the Right is listed - the way they drag religion into everything, for instance. No doubt he thinks his characterization of the Right is the 'common sense' viewpoint, but he's not explicitly saying it's superior.

[wuushew]

11. The South rises again?

HUNTSVILLE, AL—For the 135th straight year since Gen. Robert E. Lee's surrender at Appomattox, representatives for the South announced Monday that the region has postponed plans to rise again.


Above: Three of the estimated 45 million Southerners who have not yet gotten around to rising again.
"Make no mistake, the South shall rise again," said Knox Pritchard, president of the Huntsville-based Alliance Of Confederate States. "But we're just not quite ready to do it now. Hopefully, we'll be able to rise again real soon, maybe even in 2001."

http://www.theonion.com/onion3613/south_postpones.html

[wyldwolf]

14. Do you see this as a North vs. South issue?

[tom_paine]

16. The Confederacy is no longer a geographic institution

And neither is the Confederate Broederbund.

But the analogy holds.

The Party of Lincoln has become the Party of Lee.

[trogdor]

27. Party of Bushit is more like it.

The Cold Civil War, as I call it, is being fought on several fronts. The Bushists have just won major battles in California and Texas, although there are still pockets of resistance on both fronts.

[KamaAina]

32. Quite right. One of the most powerful neo-Confederates out there

is none other than Herr John Asskkkroft, from the border state of Missouri. You know, the guy who saw no problem whatever with giving an interview to Southern Partisan magazine.

[maha]

12. Bring it on!

No more retreats! Time for a countercharge!!!!

[Iris]

13. Interesting that he thinks the right differ with each other more than the

left does. He needs to hang around here for a while.

[William Seger]

21. He has a point.

"On the other side are those on the Right -- conservatives, rightists and libertarians -- who agree on stopping the Left, but differ with one another more often than those on the Left do."

"Big tent conservatism" (a.k.a. reactionary antiliberalism) tries to bring together plutocrats, theocrats, fascists, libertarians, imperialists and isolationists, and still needs a lot of votes from people who are really just "conservative" liberals who no longer know what liberalism means and don't yet understand what antiliberalism really means to those other folks.

[tom_paine]

26. Nicely said, William

Welcome to DU!

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[CShine]

15. Hee Hee!! I absolutely LOVE this guy's stuff!!!

Dennis Prager has got to be the most hilarious guy on the planet. I personally think he's a closet leftist who planted himself in the right wing press so he could write the most intentionally ridiculus farces imaginable and see how many extremists would swallow them whole.

You wanna see something of his that's REALLY funny? Check out the column linked below that he wrote last month.


In it, he says that women crave the protection of a man, and when they don't have a man they expect the GOVERNMENT to be their man (this is especially true of BLACK women, according to him). He says that welfare eliminates a woman's need for a man. He also says that single women are Democrats and married women are Republicans, and that once a woman gets married she switches over to the GOP because she doesn't need the government to be her man anymore.

He goes on tell us that people who are married with children are wiser people because parenthood makes you wiser, and since he's already told us that married people are Republicans this naturally tells us that married Republican parents are just smarter people than Democrats are. He really said this. I am not making this up. Here's the direct quote from him.

"Am I implying that increasing one's maturity and wisdom works in favor of the Republicans and against liberalism and the Democrats? Absolutely. Wisdom and contemporary liberalism are in conflict. That is why the vast majority of people who change their politics as they get older (and presumably wiser) change them from liberal to conservative."

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20030923.shtml


GAAAWWWD, I just LUV his stuff!! The first time I read that article I laughed so hard I cried! If you want a good giggle, I strongly recommend you check out my link here. The only thing that sucks is that I'm slowly coming to realize that this guy probably isn't a left-wing plant. He probably does take himself seriously. I guess that makes it even better. I just love seeing right-wing extremists making stupid jokes of themselves and not even realizing that they're doing it.

[prolesunited]

17. How about as a woman

I make my OWN money!!! I don't need the man or the government to take care of me?!?!?

But then again, I'm just an "evil feminazi" so what do I know. :evilgrin:

I'm not married, and doubt at this point I ever will be, but the possibility exists. However, I will NEVER become a Republican. :puke: And who would want to marry one of those anyway. :crazy:

[Mountainman]

19. I just love seeing right-wing extremists making stupid jokes of themselves

You need to spend some time in freeperville. It is all about right-wing extremists making stupid jokes of themselves. Rimjob is about the most brain damaged of them all I think.

[Cat Atomic]

20. Prager's a big racist as well. He once said that Jews are smarter

than all other races, because Rabbis are encouraged to have many children. According to Prager, since the Rabbis were chosen based on their scary high intelligence, the practice had the end result of "breeding" a super intelligent race.

And I'm sure he doesn't even realize he sounds like Hitler. Or maybe he does. Who cares- he's a moron.

[Classical_Liberal]

22. I think it is so disgusting anyone would call the New Republican

left wing. I think they only wrote "the case for bush hatred" in order to give their buds at the "weekly standard" their talking point.

[GinaMaria]

23. LOL

liberals, leftists and Greens -- who tend to agree with one another on almost all major issues

HUH? Author Hasn't been on many centrist to left web sites I guess.

[Cocoa]

24. a thinking conservative could vote against Bush

I think their strategy is to keep people from thinking.

A column like this tells them that it's about more than Bush, that they can't afford to think, because it's war, and the fate of the nation is at stake.

[dreissig]

25. Judeo-Christian Heritage

America's Judeo-Christian heritage is simply an accident of history. This talk that it is the source of America's "greatness" is jingoism. The founders themselves, seeing how debilitating religious wars are, made sure that there would not be a state religion.

Who really knows the nature of God? Certainly not a bunch of politicians taking a vote on the subject. It wouldn't be a surprise that the God they choose would resemble themselves. In fact, that's exactly what happens when politicians "elect" God.

[donotpassgo]

28. The conservatives are BIG into this new civil war shit.

Just nationalist crap.

[maggrwaggr]

30. that's because they need an enemy to hate

and they don't care if the enemy is their own neighbor.

They need therapy.

[Deja Q]

33. Then they'd better fire the 1st shot like what they think REAL men would.

Or are they having too much fun antagonizing everybody else?

Neo-Conservatives are the antithesis of a civilized society. Period. (Let's not forget, Republicans gave us Lincoln and overtime pay. My, how times change...)

[Kenneth ken]

29. I sent email

I wonder that you don't see your own hypocrisy in stating that "the left" wants to remove Judeo-Christian identity, i.e. "In God We Trust" from what you subsequently term a secular government.

I identify myself as part of "the left" and have no problem with living in a society largely made up of Judeo-Christians. I, and many others have a problem with having those religious beliefs imposed by what, even you agree, is supposed to be a secular government.

Rather than "In God We Trust", give me "E Pluribus Unum".

I wish that those on "the right" who claim to cherish the Constitution would actually read the Constitution. If they did, they might understand that using government to impose their particular brand of religion is anathema to the ideas embodied in the Constitution.

The rest of your screed is filled with overbroad generalizations of both "the left" and "the right." Perhaps you will devote an entire series of essays to focusing nmore closely and accurately on the indivdual antagonisms you see as dividing the nation. If you did so with intellectual honesty, you might serve a useful purpose.

[Deja Q]

31. "The Right" is nuts...

The Left wants to be more tolerant and inclusive. "God" needn't be said for people to still think of Him/Her/It. "God" wasn't originally in the Pledge of Allegience until fascist McCarthy put it there.

This just APPEARS to be "exclusive of the majority" in the eyes of the majority. Of course, they're far more paranoid and schizophrenic and xenophobic than I could ever hope to be.

And America is destroyed. Has been since corporations usurped power and manipulated the system for its own selfish needs. As the Right is part of the problem, they don't see it as such...