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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:24 PM
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Bush support dropping in Pennsylvania
Democrats are gaining ground on President Bush in Pennsylvania, a swing state that Bush has visited almost two dozen times since he became president.

Bush's job approval in Pennsylvania has slipped to 51 percent in a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday, down from 60 percent in August and 67 percent in April. In the survey, 44 percent of registered voters disapproved of the president, who lost Pennsylvania to Al Gore in 2000.

With its 21 electoral votes, the state is a prime target for both Bush and the Democrats. In head-to-head matchups, Democratic candidates run much stronger against Bush than they did in August. Bush led Wesley Clark, 48-43 percent; Connectict Sen. Joe Lieberman, 50-44 percent; and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, 50-43 percent. The president outdistanced Howard Dean, 51-41 percent, and Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt, 50-42 percent

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3268543,00.html
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:31 PM
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1. Also: Presidential nominee preference, Specter re-election
Lieberman 15
Kerry 18

Gephardt 10
Edwards 7
Dean 5
Sharpton 4
Moseley-Braun 3
Kucinich 2
Clark 17
DK/NA 19

Specter wins 46%-41%

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x8502.xml
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:34 PM
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2. As a Pennsylvanian, I'm glad to hear it
A 9-point drop in two months is pretty big.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:40 PM
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3. This shows that we are slowly returning to the red/blue split of
2000.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 06:08 AM
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17. Except that YOUR guy Dean, can't even guarantee...
bringing in all of the blue states. Clark has the greatest chance of bringing in most of the blue states and some of the reds.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:44 PM
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4. One question -- what kind of voting machines do they have?
I think they're considering Diebold.

Eloriel
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:03 AM
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13. Not more conspiracy thoeries
nt
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:46 PM
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5. Wow. I'm a little stunned Dean's numbers there are so unimpressive
NT
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 06:05 AM
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15. I'm not surprised at all. People will NOT turn out..
a "wartime president" for one with zero national security experience. It just doesn't happen. Dean is basically a yuppie phenom. That's as far as his appeal goes. Period!
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:50 PM
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6. There's a PA Dem Senate Candidate who is a DUer
http://www.charliecrystle.com/

Maybe we can ride Spector outta town with Shrub!
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JeebusH Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:10 PM
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7. steel tariffs aren't working ....
steel industry is better off without them since they drive up the cost of steel for everyone who uses it
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srpantalonas Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:45 PM
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10. steel tariffs should be extended to...
parts made with foreign steel. the tariffs as they stand hurt US manufacturing. The Multi-nationals get around the tariffs by sourcing steel parts outside the US.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:15 PM
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8. BUSH LOST PA IN 2000 and he will LOSE AGAIN IN 2004
so ...that said...he hasn't been gaining any points since then.

In fact I got a honk and a thumbs up on the Parkway East today because of my liberal bumperstickers...Pennsylvanians are getting sick and tired of repukes...
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:31 PM
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9. thanks for a day brightener!
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:51 PM
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11. It's the Economy, Stupid
It's always the economy. People don't care about politics, but they do care about their paycheck.

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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:57 PM
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12. The one thing that makes me proud about PA
was we voted for Gore!!! (not my county but at least the state in general). With a democratic governor and an economy hurting, Bush better just skip us.

I'm glad to see Kerry polling so high, but PA comes much later in the primary race.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:15 AM
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14. Another poll with Dean doing the worst against Bush...
...of five measured.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 06:06 AM
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16. 'But that will all change if he gets the nomination!'
<sarcasm off> :eyes:
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