"SLICK Chavez" on CNN! Did you SEE that?? Giving Oil to MA??

[leftchick]

What Hugo Chavez is doing is a wonderful thing. Supplementing heating oil for the poor folks in MA who were not granted any US Federal aid for it this winter. So with much fanfare in MA his representative is there along with Joseph Kennedy explaining how this helps the poor and strapped folks of MA. Cut to CNN anchor bunnies calling Hugo "Slick" , totally denigrating his help and that he is trying Hard to be... set your puke reflex....
A POPULIST PRESIDENT LIKE gwbush!!!

:puke: :puke: :puke:

I tell you those folks are getting big bucks from the WH to spread that manure.

[malaise]

1. Well you'd never have guessed

listening to those two hacks. Puke indeed.
:puke: :puke: :puke:

[BL611]

2. Funny, I don't find

the Bush- Chavez comparison at all off base, I guess I just must be a corporate brainwashed boob:hide:

[leftchick]

4. big difference and you should know it

where bush promises help to poor and underprivileged HE NEVER DELIVERS!!

Chavez does. And that is what counts.

[LoZoccolo]

6. In this case, he didn't.

He delivered for a few sections around Boston. If Bush* did that and made a big deal about it we'd be on him about pulling a stunt too.

Not to mention Chavez telling his people that we're planning on invading Venezuela...another parallel.

Sorry, I don't have to like what this guy does just because he calls Bush* a fascist.

[Al-CIAda]

14. How many times must it be shown that Bushco/PNAC have ALREADY

staged an attempted coup?

I suspect some people are intentionally clueless.

[LoZoccolo]

15. Once.

We're waiting.

The argument from feigned impatience generally doesn't compel. For instance, I wasn't convinced there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq just because right-wing pundits were acting like the case was already made the inspectors were wasting time.

[Judi Lynn]

18. William Delahunt brokered this deal for his constituents, actually.

Did it months ago. It's carried locally as a project Delahunt initiated, and it's spun as Chavez's idea outside the state. Joseph Kennedy was also a factor in this arrangement:

November 23, 2005

Delahunt brokers Venezuela oil deal
By DAVID SCHOETZ
STAFF WRITER
A deal sparked during an August sit-down in Caracas between the Cape's congressman and a Venezuelan president known for stormy relations with the Bush administration will help thousands of Bay State residents pay record heating bills this winter.

Two Massachusetts nonprofit groups yesterday signed a contract with Citgo Petroleum Corp., the Houston-based subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, to supply more than 12 million gallons of discounted home heating oil to the state's low-income population, starting next month.

Citizens Energy Corp. will deliver 9 million gallons directly to income-eligible customers at a 40 percent discount, saving residents an estimated $10 million.
(snip)

Joseph P. Kennedy II, chairman of Citizens Energy, challenged American oil executives to follow suit.

''I wrote every single oil company asking them to give us a little break on the price of oil after they made tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions of dollars in one quarter,'' Kennedy said. ''I didn't hear back from one of them. The only one that came back was Citgo.''
(snip)

http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/delahuntbrokers23.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thousands in Mass. to get cheaper oil
Delahunt, Chávez help broker deal
By Michael Levenson and Susan Milligan, Globe Correspondent and Globe Staff | November 20, 2005

A subsidiary of the Venezuelan national oil company will ship 12 million gallons of discounted home-heating oil to local charities and 45,000 low-income families in Massachusetts next month under a deal arranged by US Representative William D. Delahunt, a local nonprofit energy corporation, and Venezuela's president, White House critic Hugo Chávez.

The approximately $9 million deal will bring nine million gallons of oil to families and three million gallons to institutions that serve the poor, such as homeless shelters, said officials from Citizens Energy Corp., which is signing the contract. Families would pay about $276 for a 200-gallon shipment, a savings of about $184 and enough to last about three weeks.

The contract is to be signed Tuesday by officials from Citizens Energy, based in Boston, and CITGO, a Houston-based subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela SA. The contract was arranged after months of talks between Delahunt, a Quincy Democrat active in Latin American affairs, and Chávez, a leftist former paratrooper and fierce critic of the Bush administration.
(snip)

When the discounted oil arrives early next month, Citizens Energy -- whose chairman and president, former US representative Joseph P. Kennedy II, also helped arrange the contract -- will screen recipients with the help of local organizations that serve the poor. Some 350 local dealers will then distribute three-fourths of the oil to local families.
(snip/...)

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/11/20/thousands_in_mass_to_get_cheaper_oil/



William Delahunt third in line on the hose, following Joseph Kennedy, as oil is delivered to Quincy, Mass., from an article provided by m10ashus.

[Qibing Zero]

31. Regardless of what he does, you refust to see him in a different light.

Or wait, were you just playing devil's advocate again? :eyes:

[BL611]

7. Really

Well not according to Amnesty International, and Human Rights watch, the International Labor Organization, and the International Confederation of Free Trade Unions. After looking at the 20th century, if you don't know where the "anti-capitalist populist strongman" always leads to, I give up....

[killbotfactory]

25. Sure, if you don't count education, literacy, free health care...

cheap groceries, etc...

Then, yes, the poor are pretty bad off under Chavez and he hasn't delivered. Hell, he's only teaching them to read their own constitution and to empower themselves through democratic means, because he knows the poor are stupid and he can indoctrinate them with his vicious dictatorial lies. :eyes:

[1932]

12. Income inequality and poverty increasing in the US, decreasing in Ven.

[Qibing Zero]

32. Which part of it exactly?

I mean, they're both male. I think we can probably go that far.

[alphafemale]

3. Bush a Populist??!!??!!

I don't know whether to laugh, scream or crap my pants.

[leftchick]

5. lol!

try laughing!

[SoCalDem]

13. Don't forget to buy a supply of

video
http://www.brennansweb.com/movies/SNL%20-%20Oops%20I%20crapped%20my%20pants.wmv

[Cha]

28. Our US mediawhores need

to GO! bush is a "populist" to the wealthy donors who keep him in Iraq.

Whomever said this on cnn needs to have his/her mouth washed out with tar soap.

[StellaBlue]

8. sho nuff

Lately I've felt like we've all entered a parallel universe...

AND - did you hear that they said he has spoken 'outrageous insults' against *? No, not outrageous at all. Just true. And insulting. To humans.

[leftchick]

11. yep "outrageous"!!

what is outrageous is their continued whoring for a failed pretzeldent like **!

[nickyt]

9. Hey, they just covered this on ABC News! Hugo "Slick" Chavez is

making * look just cheap and uncaring and stupid and cold and worse than ever before. Surely people will think "well, uh, lessee, record profits for US oil companies...* knows some oil guys...why doesn't HE talk to a few people and help us out here? Why is it left to "Slick", who lives 10 brazillion miles away, to HELP PEOPLE?"
Ha ha, I am lovin' this! "Slick" is da Man!

[hvn_nbr_2]

10. Polyps check!

They have their noses so far up Dimbot's butt, they could check for polyps. (Credit to bjornsdotter here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5433004#5433312 )

[0007]

16. Bownie has already checked that aspect out. But they could

check him for smegma.

[BiggJawn]

17. Radio Nederlands and Radio Canada were talking about that last night.

Chavez is getting plenty of mileage in the world press. "The richest nation in the world ignores its Poor" and stuff like that.

Internationally, the perception is that Chavez is the good guy and Il Douche is the Shit.

[NashVegas]

19. Look. It's a Stunt

It just happens to have been a highly amusing one.

[1932]

20. I wish more leaders would engage in "stunt" of helping poor and reducing

the polarization of wealth.

It would amuse me greatly to see a world that works to make people's lives better.

[Judi Lynn]

22. It's a stunt engineered by prominent Massachusetts Democratic

Congressmen. It's not particularly amusing. It's vitally important to their constituents.

[killbotfactory]

24. Anti-Chavistas say everything he does is a stunt

Whether it's helping the poor pay for food, or teaching them out to read, or making sure they know their rights under the constitution, or giving them healthcare... It's all a stunt to make sure he is popular with the lower classes.

Maybe his government feels they are doing the right thing?

[NashVegas]

37. Guess What? I'm Not Anti-Chavez

I applaud his policies towards the poor and other indigenous in Venezuela.

During the 2002 coup, I was the first person on DU to speculate that Hugo 'pulled a feint' as I put it, and appeared to willingly go along with those who wanted him out of the palace long enough to let the coup leaders show themselves and for the fascists they are.

Hugo Chavez is a lot of things, one of them is not stupid. If this Massachusetts deal (and the others he's offered) wasn't giving the Bush administration a black eye, I don't know that I'd think he'd be doing it. So, yes, I'm enjoying this. And I'm enjoying the fact the less well-off in Massachusetts are going to benefit. I doubt very much they will spend much time reflecting on the generosity of Mr. Chavez or counting him in their prayers. Rather, it's the national and international publicity he gets that's to VZ's benefit. As long as he keeps pulling these harmless stunts, there's not much the BFEE can do to push him out of office as blatantly as they tried the last time.

Politics is showbiz.

[1932]

42. According to film Rev will not be televised, he didn't pull feint

The coup leaders threatened to drop bombs on him and his cabinet if he didn't leave Miraflores. He was willing to give himself up so the rest of his government wouldn't be murdered.

he was almost murdered on the beach that night but talked everyone down.

Also, given Chavez's consistency in expressing his convictions about poverty and opportunity and politics and economics in so many policies that have nothing to do with bush, I don't know why he'd suddenly be motivated by such a shallow goal of wanting to give Bush a black eye. That'd be inconsistent with the rest of his actions.

[Judi Lynn]

21. Since Democrats were involved in working this arrangement out

with Chavez, after they tried with the big oil companies and were simply ignored, this is going to ALSO go down as a completely useful and helpful action by Massachusetts Democratic Congresspeople.

Good for them for keeping those doors open to decent dialogue with the people-supported Venezuelan administration _Bush has been trying to destroy.

As for his opinion of poor people, no one has to go any further than to remember one of his college professors told a reporter he maintained that the poor are simply lazy, and create their own hardship.

With his party's control over Diebold voting, they can always manufacture the support of the "poor" at election time. He really has no concern or respect for those unlucky enough to be born into true poverty.

Chavez has a history of fighting to protect the people crushed by greedy, racist, brutal oligarchies. _Bush insults the poor, and makes their lives harder.

[Judi Lynn]

23. Ha ha. R.I.'s Dem. Sen.Jack Reed is working on getting R.I. some oil, too!

Good old Democrats, right?

Citgo may bring discounted heating oil to R.I.
Low-income customers in Massachusetts, and possibly in Rhode Island as well, will get oil at a lower-than-market price.
01:00 AM EST on Wednesday, November 23, 2005
BY TIMOTHY C. BARMANN
Journal Staff Writer

Low-income households in Rhode Island may receive discounted home heating oil provided by Citgo Petroleum Corp. this winter.
(snip)

The company said it plans to offer similar heating assistance programs in New York and in other states, although it has not offered any other details.

A letter sent by a Citgo executive last week to Sen. Jack Reed said the company is interested in providing assistance to the Ocean State.
(snip)

The letter was sent as a response to a letter Reed wrote to Citgo, and to several other major oil companies, last month. In light of the industry's record profits in the third quarter, Reed asked the energy companies to donate 10 percent of their profits to heating assistance programs.
(snip)

(Reed has also introduced legislation that would establish a windfall profit tax on excess oil profits. Those efforts have failed in the Senate.)

Citgo was the only company to respond to his letter, Reed said in an interview yesterday.
(snip/...)

http://www.projo.com/business/content/projo_20051123_cit23x.db0bcf2.html

[Cha]

26. "Populist" to whom? The

wealthy donors of gwbush? bush used to be slick but he ain't no more..I take it the newswhores are longing for the good ol' days..pre Katrina?

I guess it's the mission of DU to get the news out that Hugo Chavez isn't what the US media whores him out to be.

[Rex]

27. That's because the idiots who watch CNN and believe every word

equate America with everything that is right and good in the world. If someone threatens a traditional American value (made up by the MSM), then Boosh's mouthpieces spring into action. Calling Chavez 'slick' is like calling Clinton 'slick'. I'm sure the MSM want sheeple to believe that Chavez is pulling a political 'stunt'. History will not look kindly on the MSM or anyone who helped Boosh stay in power in the media.

[depakid]

29. Bingo

You called that right.

CNN is insidious- they'll purposefully slant or cover up anything to help the far right agenda.

One day, once things get really nasty- I predict that people will be looking for scapegoats- and the MSM and it's more visable members- will be one of the first places on their lists. That's just how sheeple are....

[WinkyDink]

30. Bush wishes Chavez dead. That's a pretty big CLUE

that they are polar opposites.

The peones voted for Chavez, the man of the people. The "Haves and the Have-mores" are Bush's "base".

Chavez is the new Bolivar; Bush is the new Mussolini.

[tlsmith1963]

33. Mixed Feelings About Chavez

Chavez is doing some great things, but unfortunately he is also a dictator. So I have mixed feelings about the guy. He does annoy Bush, though, and I get a kick out of that.

Tammy

[Marr]

35. Chavez is the President of Venezuela, not a dictator.

[WinkyDink]

38. Since when are dictators democratically elected?

What flavor IS that Kool-Aid?

[leftchick]

39. uh, Chavez is not a dictator

He is a democratically elected president. Amazing how the MSM RW talking points about Chavez have influenced so many here at DU.

[killbotfactory]

40. Try and find a report about Chavez in the MSM

That doens't mention the word "dictator" thrown in there. It's fucking disgusting. The elections that elected him, or prevented him from being ousted, were more legitimate than the ones in the US!

[Marr]

34. You've got to be kidding me. He said GW Bush was a "populist"?

That's ludicrous. GW Bush and his Administration are not only *not* populists, they're the opposite of populists.

I do agree that this is a "slick" move by Chavez, though. He's playing a little PR game inside the US itself, rather than just sitting back and letting the US media turn him into the new Castro-style bogeyman. It's a wise move on his part.

But GW Bush the populist? Christ that's just hilarious.

[Kat45]

36. I know a minister who has gone to Venezuela several times, and

he likes Chavez very much. This minister has been on Chavez' radio show a couple of times.I was just talking to him the other night, and he said that the media in this country tries to make Chavez look bad and doesn't talk about the good things he does.

I live in MA, and Joe Kennedy started Citizens Energy a number of years ago to help poor people who can't afford their heating bills. That was back when he decided not to run for re-election for Congress. He could have become governor of Mass if he wanted it, but he didn't want it. He's doing this heating business instead.

[1932]

43. Michael Kennedy ran Citizens Energy for years before Joe took it over,

IIRC.

[eleny]

41. More from the John Rendon words machine?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/8798997?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7

"One of the most powerful people in Washington, Rendon is a leader in the strategic field known as "perception management," manipulating information -- and, by extension, the news media -- to achieve the desired result."