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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:31 PM
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I thought the freepers were bad until I accidentally ran across this site.
It's called the Stormfront White Nationalist Community. It embraces white racists from all over the world. Here's a sample from a forum where the poster, a Brit, asks why Jesse Jackson could run as a candidate for an all white nationalist party. After a few clueless and uninformed answers, an Amurikan weighs in telling them they are asking silly questions, but look at his answer.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=94018

"Ya really need to study up before you ask silly questions here.

Jessie jackson already tried to run for pres here in the mid 80's.Every blk thug and his auntee voted for him.he was exposed then,over and over again as a money hungery phoney by the black new midia then ,He is ancient history here.The next phony black preacher won't stand a chance either.All of them-King,jackson,the little fat one running now,all have enormous ,crack smoking whores hiding in their closets,just like Mayor Barry of Washington,DC.Blacks are filthy to the core,from birth to death,no amount of media makeup is going to make Mike Tyson look like John Paul,Georgr or Ringo."

I am stunned and speechless. Can things get any worse? Are all white people racist the world over? Why aren't there websites for black racists and others. Why is it only white people?





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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:38 PM
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1. Stormfront's one of the first sites
I visited when I first got a web account years ago. There were a lot of news stories about racist organizations getting a second wind in recruitment and publicity by opening websites, and I was interested in seeing these characters. Boy howdy, they didn't disappoint.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:45 PM
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7. What little thinking these people show is amazing.
Don't they know we probably are all descended from a black African woman millions of years ago?
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:39 PM
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2. Here's Another One
Probably worse in my opinion. http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:41 PM
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4. Oh yeah reverend Phelps and his hatred of gays.
I knew about that one already and he is really a viscious crackpot, isn't he?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:44 PM
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6. Don't forget Fred Phelp's other site
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

Neal Horsley's Christian Gallery is another. Believe it or not, it's tame compared to what was like years ago. Before a couple of legal challenges knocked him down a peg, the opening page alone would make you lose your lunch.

http://www.christiangallery.com/
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mbartko Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:27 PM
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20. PA checking in...
And still Wrath Of God free! (apparently)


http://www.godhatesamerica.com/html/wrath/PA.html
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:46 PM
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8. Yuck, yuck, yuck!
Intolerance is the religious rights way. They are a dangerous group.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:40 PM
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3. Clete, unfortunately, idiot racists with computers...
will spew such garbage.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:42 PM
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5. I almost registered just to tell them what I thought
and then I decided I didn't want them to know about me.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:54 PM
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9. Oh, I Did
From the computer at my public library. I don't think they appreciated it either.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:00 PM
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10. Did you get thrown off?
:-)
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:01 PM
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11. Did you really, Don_G? You're my hero!
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morebunk Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:12 PM
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12. The answer to your next to last question: mostly!
and that means the majority of them.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:13 PM
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13. speaking as a "blue eyed devil" I know racism works both ways
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 08:14 PM by maggrwaggr
but the whites certainly started it, at least here in Amurika.

Jewish men don't much care for me either. Especially after they find out I was born in Germany. I've been called "a viking" by them.

That post is certainly awful. Don't know why anybody would spend their time reading such filth.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:22 PM
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14. You ought to read some of the stuff on some of the other
threads. It really opens up your eyes as to how bad our racism has spread. My husband is an Irish immigrant. I read him a thread from the Irish forum where a judge threatened to ban "coloured" people from a mall to stop the shoplifting, as if no white person never shoplifted in their life and as if all "coloured" people did. I didn't know Wynnona Ryder and Heddy Lamar were black until now.

Now if you know anything about the Irish, they have been treated like an underclass by the British historically. They were brutalized, murdered and starved just because they were Catholic. In this country Irish and Jewish immigrants were not allowed in many stores and hotels in the nineteenth century. You'd think that a people who had been treated this way would be sensitive to discrimination but I guess I am wrong.
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:28 PM
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15. They're the NAZI party of America... don't go there..
except to do research on them... .they worship Adolf Hitler....
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:40 PM
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16. So you're saying the Aryan Nation is behind them?
Or is it another one of the militia wackos sponsering them?
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mbartko Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:53 PM
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17. Slightly off topic, but...
I just came across this:

http://michael.travesser.com/

When this guy says he converted to Jesus Christ, he MEANS he CONVERTED to Jesus Christ!
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:02 PM
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18. Yes, but does he know that Jesus was Jewish?
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mbartko Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:15 PM
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19. Blasphemer! Blasphemer!
This is the actual site:

http://www.travesser.com/

Apparently, the "messiah" no longer speaks in parables, just paraphrases. Of the New Testament.

There. Is. Some. Scary. Shit. Out. There.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:28 PM
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21. Hey, Clete! The Antidote...SPLC
Attorneys Morris Dees and Joe Levin started the Southern Poverty Law Center way back when. Their motto is "Teaching Tolerance." They FIGHT the monster.

http://www.splcenter.org/index.jsp

From their "About the Center"...

Pioneers of Justice and Equality

The Southern Poverty Law Center was founded in 1971 as a small civil rights law firm. Today, the Center is internationally known for its tolerance education programs, its legal victories against white supremacists and its tracking of hate groups.

Located in Montgomery, Alabama – the birthplace of the Civil Rights Movement – the Center was founded by Morris Dees and Joe Levin, two local lawyers who shared a commitment to racial equality. Its first president was civil rights activist Julian Bond.

Throughout its history, the Center has worked to make the nation's Constitutional ideals a reality. The Center's legal department fights all forms of discrimination and works to protect society's most vulnerable members, handling innovative cases that few lawyers are willing to take. Over three decades, it has achieved significant legal victories, including landmark Supreme Court decisions and crushing jury verdicts against hate groups.

In 1981, the Center began investigating hate activity in response to a resurgence of groups like the Ku Klux Klan. Today the Center's Intelligence Project monitors hate groups and tracks extremist activity throughout the U.S. It provides comprehensive updates to law enforcement, the media and the public through its quarterly magazine, Intelligence Report. Staff members regularly conduct training sessions for police, schools, and civil rights and community groups, and they often serve as experts at hearings and conferences.

CONTINUED...

If you can, send them money to keep up their work. They are effective. And they are GOOD PEOPLE.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:39 PM
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22. I am familiar with them and they do great work.
They were instrumental in getting the creepy Reverend Richard Butler of the brownshirt Aryan Nation kicked out of Idaho. I know they are trying to get back in and have made inroads, but they were the only outfit who had the legal clout to do it.
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NoMoreRedInk Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:50 PM
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23. That's awful. It should come with a warning****
nm
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:52 PM
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24. It did come with a warning.
If something is worse than a freeper it's bad.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:53 PM
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25. All whites aren't racist because of racist sites
What % of whites actually read and agree with racist sites? Stormfront has only a few thousand members spread across the world. That is a sign of their weakness IMO.

Most whites, just like most other people, are not racist.

There are websites for all kinds of racists. Almost all of them are white, though, simply because of the distribution of wealth, and consquently, internet access, across the world.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:07 PM
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26. What a disgusting site..can I quote it? Call it the ghost of the freeper.
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 10:08 PM by burr
"The American political process is decided many times over petty juvenile issues. Candidates have ran on single issue platforms. Millions of voters will make their choice on what a candidate has felt about social issues like abortion or school prayer or on the issue of healthcare. Democrats and Republicans are many times so dualistic on social and economic programs that a large amount of the American voting public will be divided into two camps on these issues and vote either way.

America holds the largest contingency and concentration of wealth by Jews in the world. The primary centers of media and finance in the United States and the world for that matter, Hollywood and New York, are of course well established in the hands of jews who do not see a White Nationalist party understandably as something that would serve their interests. In consequence the modern culture of America has been heavily jewish in influence, specifically following World War II. An offhanded comment by a politician or any person with any sort of pull in public life concerning Jews or a minority can ruin a career. Unless, of course, a slavish and publicly announced apology is offered immediately after the fact.

America seems to be as confused and messes up as Britian,as far as I can read from here on SF.I am not sure what exactly what the BNP and white people have in common,but in the US ,It's Republicans are mostly white people,and Democrats are mostly Blacks and non whites.That's it.For the present White nationalism is only a distant dream of US few here in the home of the yanks."


Poor ole brit, just too uninformed and unAmerican to be admitted as a cyberbigot!
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