There's no hope of getting along. These people are too evil.

[Hamlette]

In 1994, early in the Whitewater controversy, Rachel Abrams (wife of Elliott Abrams who pled guilty to misleading congress in the Iran Contra mess) "wrote an article in The Wahington Times, in which she laid out the neoconservatives' vindictive hatreds:

'I know something about Bill and Hillary Clinton right now. I know how their stomachs churn, how their anxiety mounts, how their worry over their defenseless child increases. I know their inability to sleep at night and their reluctance to rise in the morning. I know every new incursion of doubt, every heartbreak over bailing friends, every sting and bite the press gives, every jaw-clenching look at front-page photographs of ... the special prosecutor. I know all this, and the thought of it makes me happy. Yet complete contentment remains just out of reach. The pleasure I take in the suffering of the Clintons isn't full, for it is clear that there is more in sotre for them, and I feel strongly that they haven't suffered enough. . . . I will be even happier as this unfolds. More important for me is the sense that until now the president and his first lady have been rather too alone in their troubles, that there are others who, worms that they are, should be squirming now with discomfort and embarrassment, and have only just begun to do so. . . . What really counts about them, what binds them to one another and sets them apart from the hoi polloi, is their membership in the educated, left-leaning, affluent professional class. These are the lawyers, the columnists and editorialists, the reporters, the legislators and the executives, the aristocrats of "idealism."'

(From The Clinton Wars.)

When they tell you we give as good as we get, ask them to show you one thing by a Dem with one tenth as much evil hatred as this.

Turns my stomach.

[dorktv]

1. The thing I want to know is, How did she know how the

Clintons felt? Is she pyschic?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

2. Anybody who could marry Eliot Abrams...

...has to be pretty evil herself or else completely cowed and abused. This bit of invective suggests that she's more on the evil end of the spectrum.

By the way, I heard years ago that Eliot Abrams was the son-in-law of Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter, who are practically the founding father and mother of the neocons. If that's true and she's their daughter, then she absorbed this kind of hatred growing up.

[laura888]

3. what exactly is her educational background?

so does being right-wing suddenly make you one of the good-old-boys? Please!

[LoZoccolo]

4. I've thought that to restore America's reputation...

...we really need to completely get the Republicans voted out of every single office everywhere. I mean bring them down on the lies they've been spreading for like 25 years now from supply-side economics to PNAC. I wonder how many of them would have to be embarassed publicly before a huge mass of them jump ship.

We've taken down the Federalists. We've taken down the Whigs. And they're next.

[Hamlette]

5. LoZoccolo...that's the smartest thing I've heard about this yet

After reading this quote I was so depressed. This woman couldn't possibly be the same species as me. How do you talk to these people? How can you hope to get along with them?

We need to discredit them and get them OUT of public life. They just can't play nice. (And to think they believe Kennedy's comment: "the war in iraq was cooked up in Texas" is on the same level as this evil.)

[maggrwaggr]

6. why the hell would you want to get along with them?

They hate us and want to destroy us all. As this quote makes perfectly clear.

I don't want to work with people like this. I want them buried. Crushed. Humiliated and utterly powerless.

They declared war on us a long time ago. Most of us just sat there and took it.

[jiacinto]

7. I am reading that book right now

nt

[tom_paine]

8. You know, Hamlette, for YEARS I listened to Goebbels v2.0

from Rush, Newt et al. (never really perceiving until much later what an interconnected propaganda machine they have built)

I am a moderate who believes that conservatives and liberals need each other to steer the moderate course the Founding Fathers envisioned.

Unlike the Busheviks, I never during that time, wished for the demise of conservative thought.

But these people aren't conservatives. Not really. They are Busheviks.

After the Bloodless Coup of 2000, I saw the metastasis of the cancer that had been growing inside the Old Republic for quite some time.

And I agree with you.