Another danger from fundamentalist republicans

[onebigbadwulf]

Ever wonder why liberals and conservatives never see eye to eye on the environment? Here is my theory...

Liberals take the love peace and harmony approach to life. We think balance is necessary for this process of perpetual prosperity, and now we see that it most definitely is (IE wars for oil).

Conservatives don't give two flying Sh*ts about harmony or balance. They are out to exploit the earth for all it has and drill out every last natural resource without fear or consequence. They don't even believe in global warming. Why? Here is my answer...

Liberals are scientific and conservatives are superstitious. Conservatives don't believe in climate changes, the ice age, or the ability for humans to ruin the planet/environment/ozone layer. They believe that weather, garbage, waste, pollution, and everything else is all part of god's plan. They think that we will all be beamed off the planet just as soon as Jesus comes to save us. So who cares about the 5 billion tons of garbage, plastic, smog, and nuclear waste... we're all going to heaven soon! Unless you're not a fundamentalist protestant republican american...then we will see you in hell!


:puke:

[MissMarple]

1. A few of them probably are like that.

but, I think most of the persons controlling government at this time are just shortsighted opportunists. I can't call them conservatives. Real conservatives are either appalled, blindsided, or oblivious, or perhaps, co-opted.

[TlalocW]

2. Add on to that...

That fundamentalists always think we're in the "last days." Probably even more so than usual since things like wars, earthquakes, and famine are more easily reported and we see images of it everyday thanks to a globe-spanning media. So if we're in the last days, who cares what we do to the planet?

TlalocW

[MrPrax]

3. Conservatives tend...

to view elections as legitimzing as existing power structure...as such they don't care how it's won.

If you notice most conservatives, like the law, tend to be quite happy if a democracy goes uncontested... since they are 'right', why the necessity of certifying their righteousness? They tend to view the the motives of their opponents as insincere attempts to undermine a 'perfect' order

Liberals tend to look at elections as platforms to advance ideas of a power structure they want and examine different ideas regarding goverance and as such they welcome the input from conservatives...

In short, liberals and left will always be at a disadvantage because of their principles :-(

[onebigbadwulf]

5. To add on more

In short, liberals and left will always be at a disadvantage because of their principles :-(

We are also ALWAYS at a disadvantage because we have to make progress. Change is always an uphill battle especially when we're dragging SO MUCH dead weight (repukes). Republicans would be happy leaving things the way they are (except for abortion/medicare/SS which bush has so brilliantly put in jeopardy with this massive debt) and just vetoing every single thing dems try to do.

I mean think of all the SH*T Clinton had to take for actually PROGRESSING America!!

[pippin]

4. Funny thing about conservatives. . .

they don't conserve anything--not even their own traditions. :think:

[JHB]

6. It's the "James Watt" school of "dominion over the Earth".

My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.
-- James Watt, The Washington Post, may 24, 1981

I don't know how many future generations we can count on until the Lord returns.
-- James Watt, to a Congressional committee February 5, 1981

We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand.
-- James Watt, (source unknown)

James Watt was Reagan's Sec. of the Interior 1981-1983, and a number of his proteges have turned up in the Reagan and both Bush administrations.

Yes, there is a substantial core of fundy Republicans in high places who believe the "the endtimes" are near (if not here already), so there's no need to preserve things for future generations (hmmm, I wonder if the red-inkers hold similar views of the national debt?). Not everybody, of course, but the ones who do seem to be very well-connected.

Not exactly shepherds tending their flock, are they?

[rasputin1952]

7. There actually is a difference between ...

conservatives and the neo-cons that inhabit the shadows now.

While conservatives don't want change, neo-cons do; but the neo-con wants a change 'backwards'. They wish to return to the Dark Ages of inherited titles and money. They want to go to a place where only the privledged are entitled to an education, and everyone else, is merely a peon to be disposed of when their working life is over.

Progressives on the other hand, look forward to change. Usually this change will impact the community and the eventually the world as a whole. Those that have had the greatest impact on the worlds better ideologies have all been Progressive. Universal education, universal suffrage, and many other aspects we take for granted, were all Progressive positions pushed to fruition by Progressives.

The neo-cons, and especially the Religious Right, have the notion that the earth is here to be used, and depleted. Rather than be stewards of the earth, which every major and minor religion proposes, the neo-cons have gone out of their way to take everything they can, in the hopes of material wealth, over spiritual dignity.

The belief that it doesn't matter because Christ will return shortly anyway, is as absurd as it sounds. As a Christian, I find it offensive that the Religious Right would push such actions as 'noble' and within the Scriptures. This ideology is driven by greed, and is at odds with what Christ taught those that would listen. It goes against virtually everything that is within all of the other major religions as well.

To put it in a nutshell....I certainly would not want to have to explain my actions to God, if I were in their shoes. This will not go over well.

[JHB]

8. Putting it in a smaller nutshell...

...the Religious Right puts "dominion over the Earth" together with "endtimes" and sees real conservation as blasphemy;

...the neocons see finite resources, and are determined that they and theirs will be the top rats on the sinking ship.