will the senate dems join byrd in opposing the $87 billion?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

or will they once again follow the oh-so-successful daschle/mcauliffe surrender-to-bush route?

[CMT]

1. most of them won't

but enough of them will. Lieberman for one--and Gep in the house.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

2. Help me out, here

I'm trying to understand what you mean by "enough of them will". If most don't, and since the GOP has the majority, it would take lots and lots of Republican senators to defeat this bill.

By the way, I was very, very proud of Senator Byrd this afternoon. I don't usually throw around terms like "Great American", but I think he qualifies.

[IkeWarnedUs]

3. The money isn't needed for the troops

MoveOn.org sent this out yesterday in an afternoon edition of their e-mail alerts, the Daily MisLead.

A report released October 15, 2003 by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) says the defense department budget has sufficient money to fund the troops in Iraq through May 2004!

From the Daily Mislead:

<snip>

The (Congressional Research Service) CRS study released yesterday suggests that the recently-passed $368.2 billion 2004 Defense funding bill plus the emergency funding Congress passed at the start of the war provides the Army alone with $37 billion in funding for personnel and operations and maintenance, enough to fund operations through early May.2

President Bush requested the money in September, saying, "We have conducted a thorough assessment of our military and reconstruction needs in Iraq."3 But even prior to the CRS survey's conclusions, Republican aides said that the administration inflated its budget request in part to avoid having to ask for additional funds the following year -- during the election season.4

more: http://www.misleader.com/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df10162003.html

Here is a link a pdf of the CRS report. Note it is provided by Jan Schakowsky's House site:

http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/04-Supp-availability_of_Army_funds-memo-15Oct03.pdf

[madrchsod]

4. no

they`ll cave-in to the process of stripping any diginty left in the senate. a few may stand but to no avail ,there is no checks and balances anymore. the president is the king now..all hail to the king! long live the king!

[goobergunch]

5. Only a few

The complete Senate list can be seen at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=549189 .

[brainshrub]

6. Patrick Leahy Just did

And now the question hits me again: Why don't I live in Vermont?