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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:20 PM
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BBV Activists: Brainstorming Thread #2 (images/memes/slogans)
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 07:50 PM by nostamj
that first thread was getting very big and had lots of graphics so, I'm gonna open another.

it's just a free-association thing to discover/develop effective themes, images, slogans, etc. for BBV. here's the original thread and there's LOTS of great ideas there already.

ORIGINAL THREAD

one of the issues I'm moving on to is how to plant the Voter Verified Paper Ballot concept.

it doesn't really roll off the tongue. so, my idea is to put VVPB out there with the tag.... "do you know what this means?"

a few ideas follow. haven't had time to work on any graphic versions yet. selling VVPB is key, after the baseline concept is understood.

Some people don’t want you to know what VVPB means....
Find out why. Here: www.blackboxvoting.com

ASK ME
WHY I
DEMAND
VVPB

GOT VVPB?
Your VOTE May Depend On It!

If you don’t know what
VVPB means...
ASK ME!
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:26 PM
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1. BIG FAVOR:
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 07:27 PM by BevHarris
For those who e-mailed me the gray-scale graphics in TIFF files -- the ISP who shut down BlackBoxVoting.com today overstepped even more, what else is new, and shut down our email. I had not downloaded the graphics, and I need them for the book by Sunday morning.

For this weekend only (because I'll shut this down after this weekend) could you email them again, to blackboxvoting@aol.com?

For any who are willing to invest that extra time, I really appreciate it!

Bev

Direct link to Black Box Voting: Chapter 9 --
http://www.talion.com/bbv_chapter-9.pdf

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angka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:01 PM
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12. .tiff file of graphic 'diebold5'
is here:

http://thinkpol.net/diebold5.tif (300dpi .lzh-compressed)

and the others, for posterity:
















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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:28 PM
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2. VV looks like a W - eom
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 07:29 PM by patrice
But then, maybe that's not so bad: WPB = W-Pay-Back
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:33 PM
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3. nostamj, you feeling better now?
A second thread! Not bad for a topic that fell off the page in record time! :evilgrin: :thumbsup:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:40 PM
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5. much!

of course, I have been on vacation and DO know how to apply occasional course correction to a thread--when I have time.

but seriously, so many great ideas. it was like the initial ?W threads in a way.

more!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:40 PM
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4. nostamj ...
you inspired us all to get creative! :bounce:


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:54 PM
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10. Could you "tiff" these for me and send to Bev??
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 07:54 PM by SoCalDem

:loveya:

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:06 PM
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13. greyscale TIFFs have been sent! n/t
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:46 PM
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6. A kick for the creative Duers
Brain Storming needed.

:kick:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:52 PM
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7. Satan is trying to steal your vote!
demand a paper ballot.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:53 PM
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8. we'll put that in the RED STATE folder n/t
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:54 PM
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9. Another ..
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 07:57 PM by tlcandie
NO Paper
NO Problem
NO Vote


No PAPER Ballot
No Backup or Ballot Box OR ?
No Vote


Ballot PAPER
Ballot
Vote YOU choose!

(Left the blank after the second ballot because couldn't come up with something else, but also thought it might be appropo? :shrug:


Better Absentee Ballot
Best PAPER Ballot
Vote!!

Not sure what to put beside the Better and/or Best ..? Trying to play off the BBV theme...

:shrug:

Okay, brain tired again .. :D

EDIT: made BIG booboo!

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:57 PM
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11. reverse pitch!!!

STAY AWAY FROM THE POLLS!!

AN ABSENTEE BALLOT IS YOUR ONLY REAL BALLOT!
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:20 PM
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17. Hmmm
NO PAPER
NO POLL
Vote ABSENTEE!
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lysergik Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:10 PM
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14. How about..
PAPER not VAPOR
blackboxvoting.com

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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:19 PM
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16. Personally, I saw this on someone's sig line today and I LOVE It!
:hi:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:25 PM
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19. this is GOOD for people who already 'get' it....

but, i think you'd agree, too vague for the 'baseline' campaign.

and I DO think there's room for effective ideas across the spectrum of potential audiences.

=======

It's Your VOTE!
VERIFY It!

=======
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lysergik Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:28 PM
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20. or,
It may intrique people to check out the website, who knows.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:17 PM
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15. Would you trust an accountant who won't let you see the books?
eom
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. ack one more .. not checking this anymore tonight!!!!
YOUR life
YOUR rights
YOUR vote
DEMAND PAPER!
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:31 PM
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21. Love the accountant one! It resonates witih me
Of course, I won't even trust an accountant who tries to make the books sound compicated. Obfuscation is NOT a sign of precision.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:37 PM
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22. That's a good one!
Everyone will understand the problem immediately. :-)



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abcdan Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:01 PM
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23. slogan
Demand truth in the booth.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:53 AM
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24. truth, truth, in the booth!

truth, truth, in the booth!

oh dear! brought out the disco duck in me there... ;-)
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 02:41 AM
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25. also need a HAVA message of some kind
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 02:43 AM by phoebe
Help America Vote Act? How About Voter Accountability?

How About Voter Accountability? Vote NO on Help America Vote Act

HAVA Vote? Not without a paper ballot

Do you HAVA? VVPB is a MUST

Do you HAVA? Vote responsibly with VVPB

HAVA Vote?

The HAVA and the have nots - ask me about VVPB

it's late folks..
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:35 PM
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34. Hah hah hah -- made me slosh my coffee
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 01:36 PM by BevHarris
truth, truth in the booth!

Disco - disco - duck.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 06:49 AM
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26. bump for the morning people
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girlphoenix Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 08:35 AM
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27. How about just a big block of binary
And the words VERIFY THIS! underneath?

Or binary on one side, and names with yes/no beside them on the other. You could use historical names, Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, etc...so no claims of bias. Then under the list of names 'Oh, so THAT'S who I voted for!'

the girl :hi:
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 08:52 AM
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28. LOL I thought of one late last night, but it promotes fear ..
Strictly for fun only ...

Better
Be
VERY afraid
DEMAND PAPER BALLOTS!

Again was thinking on the BBV wave...

Have fun... :hi: :bounce:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:16 AM
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29. Slogan and Image
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 11:23 AM by eleny
I copyrighted the design idea to BBV, just to keep outsiders honest.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:22 PM
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30. a kick for the saturday crowd....

:kick:
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:45 PM
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31. Verification
Since the BBV guys will say that the voter verifies by reading the screen...


What's on the screen
Is not a ballot
And may not show who got your vote
Make sure you check a real ballot-
Voter-Verified Paper Ballots
The only way to safeguard Democracy
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:52 PM
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32. We are pro democracy activist. Refer to the network of
people helping in this fight as pro democracy activists or advocates.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:34 PM
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33. based on an idea by BattyDem....


needs tweaking but wanted to see how it plays 'online'
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:45 PM
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35. This might work over the outline of any state......
....that uses DRE's :evilgrin:



VOTE BLOWN TO BITS?
DEMAND PAPER BALLOTS!




:kick:


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 02:46 PM
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36. Hows this?

Take a byte out of eVote fraud
Demand Paper Ballots


http://www.blackboxvoting.com

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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:11 PM
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37. OOOOOOOHHH! I LIKE IT!
:evilgrin: :thumbsup:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:17 PM
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38. me too!

mind if I play with the text in some graphic formats???
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:18 PM
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39. Ya this just might be the one to grab it ...
I know I go from the 'already informed' perspective.. great job !!! :bounce:

Can't wait to see the graphics :D
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:23 PM
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40. Sure do as you wish
here is one idea

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 04:38 PM
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41. kicking a good idea...

will play with it soon.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 08:08 PM
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42. and kick again!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:23 PM
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43. Kicking with my left foot
Now my right.


so much for my daily exercise.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 11:57 AM
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44. All that exercise got me sore, but still I have to give this thread a

KICK!

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 01:09 PM
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45. let's try another
i'll be gone the rest of the afternoon...
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