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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:30 AM
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How will "flightsuit" save his bid for a second term?
flightsuit is in trouble, unless something major happens, he will not win a second term, what will raise his numbers and support high enough for a second term?

He could just steal another one with the rigged machines, but without having great numbers folks will see through this.

Another 9/11? The second on his watch? I don’t think that’s an option.

Another war? 3 in 4 years? The economy won’t handle it and even his party members will balk at more money to start a third war before the election.

What’s left that might pull his ass out of the fire?

My wife thinks the “flightsuit” administration will save his ass in 04 by reportedly thwarting a credible report of an assassination attempt on his life by Al-Qeada. It will be billed that Al-Qaeda is so threatened/weakened by flightsuits war on them that they must assassinate him and the sheeple will vote for him out of sympathy/patriotism/fear and anger.

The best time for this would be during the Republican National Convention in New York when bush is to be there, security will rush him out during his speech or do another elementary school style exit and flight pattern until it’s safe for him to return to Washington.

Anyone suggesting he be replaced then because of mere domestic issues at a time of a credible threat to our president will be labeled yet again as being un-patriotic, mean spirited and just using partisan politics in order to regain power and people will buy this, and his numbers will soar.

This man will not go quietly, he’s already shown that a legal vote process will not prevent him from his quest for power and if things don’t change before 04 he’ll be just an ex-pres. He has to do something before the election in 04 and it will have to be big.



Retyred In Fla

So I Read This Book

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:32 AM
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1. You're right, Dumbo doesn't believe in losing even when he's lost!
Can't imagine people would let him get away with any of your scenarios, but they let him steal the election, and invade Iraq.

I'm scared.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:35 AM
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2. rigged voting machines
nt
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:54 PM
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17. I personally agree
myself, if nothing else but the mid-terms has shown is that people will believe that poll numbers mean nothing. How every candidate the morning of the mid-term elections leading in the polls could lose without an outcry of fraud boggles the mind.

With one statement that all the polls were wrong because America really wanted change, the vast majority shrudged their shoulders and said oh well, not one of the defeated cried foul, not one challenged the vote even after it was shown (with three identical vote tallies in Texas alone) there was something fu*ked up.

While I refuse to believe we have no chance at winning, a part of me can see yet another theft on the horizon. I hope I'm wrong, any more of this bastard after 04 will be the straw that broke the camels back for me.

I don't know where a safe place will be to avoid the long reach of this bastard, but here in the US will no longer be my home. I can and will leave if allowed to as much as it will hurt.


Retyred In Fla

So I Read This Book

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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:35 AM
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3. Do You Think $200 Million of TV Ads Might Help?
Bush ads are going to be on TV more often than CNN Headline News. Want a preview?

http://www.gop.org/Newsroom/RNCResearch/TLvideo2.htm
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ameriphile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:41 AM
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6. Uh... yah.
n/t
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 02:49 PM
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20. This is Hole Card

That and owning the media and voting machines!
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:38 AM
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4. Per Weekly Standard this is how.
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=552315>
9-11 makes women vote 'pub, California makes Latinos vote 'pub, and Ahhnold makes dems in general vote 'pub.
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:40 AM
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5. I Will Vote For Him........
I will vote for him if he wears his flight suit, and bails out at 10,000 feet without a parachute!
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:09 PM
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14. Hopefully he will take the controlls for real next time!
Pilot can eject..
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:46 AM
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7. 200 million dollars worth of propaganda.
It doesn't matter who the Dem nominee is. If they can't dig up enough dirt they'll make it up and shove it down the country's throat 24/7.
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:48 AM
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8. Sadly money is so powerful
I wonder what the solution is. Do we play the poor populist, say Mr. Yale has too much money and is subverting democracy or do we find some seriously big donars? Isn't Dean doing pretty well with his donations?
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:00 PM
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11. Dean's doing great, especially compared to other Dems.
At this point though, it's the difference between 200 million and 25.
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:02 PM
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12. Ow
I didn't realize it was that steep. I thought it was like 100 mill to 200 mill. Hmmm.. We have a ways to go.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:52 AM
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9. Declare martial law and cancel
the election - national security, you know.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:56 AM
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10. he will do it with all the money he has collected from his rich buddies
and by the same methods he used before--only this time he will escalate the lies. I read a good article about how the Bush boy uses propaganda --- all laid out and , as I see it, exactly what has happened so far. Nothing sticks to Bush and this is why--we are being jerked around--Bush could kill Laura in full view of the television cameras and he would get away with it by using these tactics--OK that is a little over the top as an example, but consider what he has gotten away with so far and ask why. ARticle in Counterpunck by Stan Goff--wonder why you feel you cannot remember the atrocities that Bush commits almost daily? These are professional Goebbels-like managers here--I would say they even surpass Goebbels in their genius at deception.

http://www.counterpunch.org/goff10172003.html
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:05 PM
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13. I disagree. I think another terrorist attack *is* an option for him.
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 12:07 PM by Cat Atomic
It doesn't have to be on the scale of 9-11. Call me a paranoid, but I expect Northwoods 2004 sometime next year. These guys are without scruples, and if it looks like they'll lose the election (again), they'll do what it takes to stay in power.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:01 PM
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23. Cat
I wonder about this though, it seems like any possibility could be spun either way.

1) If there is another terrorist attack on American soil, then:

a) Now is not the time to change leadership. The attack just re-enforces the need for continued Bush leadership in the war on terror.

b) The attack demonstrates that Bush is failing in his efforts to protect America -- that his foreign interventions have actually increased hostility toward America.

2) If there is no new terrorist attack, then:

a) Bush is succeeding. His policies and military adventures are working to secure the safety of the American people.

b) The threat was overstated. The Patriot Act, war in Iraq, and alienation of our allies are uneccessary.

2b strikes me as the weakest argeument and the one most antithetical to the current popular mindset. So, I would guess, that team Bush would prefer that there be no more terrorist attacks before the election so that they can tout 2a.
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:12 PM
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15. Look for an influx of
Code oranges and Bin laughin tapes. Why do you think they have repeatedly saved him?
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carols Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:38 PM
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16. Of trust and truth
The sad thing is, many of us (myself included) expect the next election to be stolen if not outright thwarted. It's not a question of IF, it's a question of HOW. Can anyone remember another administration in their lifetime about which this could be said?

This has become a problem for even our Democratic candidates as newcomers like Dean and Clark constantly have to fend off reports that they are Republican plants. The TRUTH is that we don't trust anyone anymore. Bush has raped our collective psyche. There are even respectable leftists out there telling people not to vote in protest of the hijacking of our government my fascist corporations and their shills.

Who wouldn't give their right arm to know EXACTLY what happened in 2000 - or on 9/11 or even just the truth behind the rediculous pretzel incident? Even if the end result was that our worst fears were confirmed, it would be better than this foggy state into which the Bush administration has thrown the country. At least then the only course of action would be clear.

I think the assasination attempt is entirely plausible and when used in combination with code oranges, fake bin Laden tapes, corrupted voting machines, redistricting, and outrageous smear campaigns could very well produce the desired results for the GOP.

Sure their propaganda offensive is top-notch, but sometimes I think the question we should be asking ourselves is why the American public is so apathetic and obtuse, (polite euphemism for stupid). If we can't cut off the snake-oil salesmen, how do we cut-off the consumers of snake-oil? How do we break the spell?

Carol
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 02:44 PM
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18. I've always considered a variation
I've thought he would be made into a victim by an attack on his family. With this crowd, even women and children are expendable. Remember Martha Mitchell. Remember Dorothy Hunt. I thought this would be the last resort.

But I also have been wondering if an mocked up *terrorist* attack on another country would serve the purpose. So Poppy's boys stage a bioterrorism attack on London. George is proved correct about terrorism.

Voila. Sieg heil.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 02:46 PM
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19. and...
....it's always instructive to look at what his father did. The alleged assassination attempt on Poppy has never been proven. Plenty of skeptics think it's a sham.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 02:51 PM
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21. Just like 2002
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 02:52 PM by quaker bill
Not an actual war. An imminent threat of war.

"you need me" "I am the strong daddy that can protect you from the evildoers"

The evildoers are out there, they could be in your closet or under your bed....

They hate you, they hate your 'murican values. They are commin to rustle the womin and rape the cattle.... It the terrer it's the terrerists. See the sign it say's orange alert. We have good non-specific intelligence that says they're a commin' somewhere to do somthin' awful real soon.

You don't want the thousand points of light turnin' into a mushroom cloud.... now do ya?

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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 02:58 PM
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22. It's safe for me to bury this within someone else's thread
I'll go you one better - something I've thought for a couple months. We have already had a couple hints of "the bad guys are trying to assassinate Bush" stories--i.e., shoulder fired missles at AF 1 or the al Qaeda guy they caught that was going to try to kill him during this Asian trip, etc. I believe Bush is going to have a "fake" assassination attempt probably next summer. In other words, to pull off war, terror attack, etc. is quite hard. But a fake assassination would be sooooo easy to stage. He's wisked off to the hospital. All the world will be focused on him. Everyone will be 'praying' for him...sympathy will flow. Dems will not be able to say one goddamn thing about him or any of his filthy policies and criminal activities, etc. or be branded scum. It will get him out of too many (maybe all) debates, etc. He will get a bunch of sympathy votes and be back in the saddle come Nov. 04. Think of how the people swarmed over Ronnie, etc. He will be truly our hero who took one for the US of A----it also negates his fucking service record, etc. So, you heard it here first. I predict a full blown, card carrying "assassination". The only problem for the little scum is whether he believes they will be using fake bullets 'cause Cheney would love to rule.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:34 PM
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24. Steal it. All they need to do is create the illusion that Bush might
swing it. They own the voting apparatus and the Congress and the Supreme Court. It's like with Arnold. I doubt he really won, but all they had to do was create the illusion that he could win. Make it plausible...then steal it.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:39 PM
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25. His campaign will smear his opponent and ...
1) His campaign will smear his opponent.

In Ca., the populace hated Gov. Davis (see recall), but just last
year Gov Davis (who was hated even then) beat the Republican challenger
by first running ads to deny his strongest opponent the nomination and then smearing the eventual nominee.
Karl Rove is better at this then Davis, and he'll have far more money.

This is enough.
----------------------------
2 and 3 are of course not definite, but if either happens,
Bush is home free.

2) Terrorist attack will happen.
They won't purposely let this happen, but given the
openness of American society and the mediocre attempts
at strengthening domestic American defenses, this is very possible.
Dear leader then can use the us against them leadership to
reassure the public.

3) Economy will improve.
Employment is a lagging indicator, sometimes taking up to a year
to catch up to the economic growth. The Fed is stimulating the
economy by printing money and keeping interest rates low. It is very
possible that we'll see job growth next year, even if many jobs are lost forever overseas, new types of jobs will open up, not necessarily as good as the lost ones, but it doesn't matter.
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