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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:31 PM
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Sickening sighting
On my way to a birthday party this afternoon I see a white Saturn on the expressway with two flags flying high above the roof from each of the back windows. I can clearly see that one is an American flag but my curiosity makes me drive faster to get a better look at the second flag. When I do, I see: "Bush/Cheney '04"!!!!!

The driver? A young black man. I know this is Halloween season but that was uncalled for.

I had to fight the uncontrollable urge to follow the idiot driver and key his car.

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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:41 PM
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1. Maybe he borrowed the car
because he is from out of town, or his own car broke down.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:42 PM
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2. Maybe he's trying not to get pulled over (n/t)
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Booger Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:43 PM
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3. I think there are alot
of black conservatives anymore.

It's just a quiet thing you don't hear much about.
I'm of the mind that racism isn't such a big issue in modern times.

Why would it be different anymore?
People who believe that they are doing well financially will face the threat of becoming conservative.
It's human nature to a degree. Protect what I've got.
And somehow George of the Bungle, and his handlers, sell the message pretty well that they are going to help them do just that.

Flame me if you want, but it's not racism anymore, it's classism.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:52 PM
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7. it's true
Read a study that says that as African Americans become more affluent, they turn republican.

The Dem party hasn't done the job they need to do to hold on to them, either.


Cher
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:18 PM
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10. Labor, too.
Talking to a few of the local dockworkers, electricians, and other well-paid union types-- they've become quite well-off under their contracts, and have a certain disconnect between themselves and other blue collar labor.

Many have bought into the idea that they've "done it themselves" and forget that there are a bunch of people out there working just as hard without a union negotiator making the deal.

Many have also gotten over the hump of fighting for what they consider theirs. They have it already, and are more afraid of having that taken away than interested in getting more.

This leads right into the conservative mindset that change is scary, and that they are now supporting the "undeserving."

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Fatima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:55 PM
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15. I live in a right to work state and I was in the Steelworkers union
Soooo many of my co-workers voted Republican because of the perception that keeping a Republican in the WH would keep the defense bucks rolling in (this was a shipyard).

Then they would complain about scabs! Go figure! And they would drop out of the union because they didn't want to pay the dues, while enjoying the hard-won benefits of those of us who struck and negotiated a new contract.

People like that make my blood boil.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:00 PM
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8. Voting against your best interests is colorblind.
Stupidism is a trait found in all races.....
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:47 PM
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4. obviously he stole the car!
:evilgrin:
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:52 PM
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5. I agree that this is not a race issue...but a class issue
I am black and traditionally we have been dems. CONs are (you have to give them credit they are ahead of us on this one) successfully pushing the myth that Dems take blacks for granted.

I'm just surprised that people are falling for it when Bush's record of lies should make anybody think thrice before becoming a CON.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:36 PM
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13. I hear you loud and clear linazelle.
I too am black and I see some of the same attitude. Its scary to see so many people with their eyes glued wide shut.

Jazzgirl
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:52 PM
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6. Goebbels v2.0 is very persuasive
just like the original verson.

With Goebbels v2.0 at your command, you could damned near convince large percentages of people that 1 + 1 = 3.

Orwell was right, he just missed the right title by 17 years.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:01 PM
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9. my anecdotal observation that only confuses things further
Of the African-American Republicans that I've personally met, a disproportionate number of them have been gay men. I'm not kidding. So these people, in my view, have voted against their own interests in at least two ways. This is entirely unscientific, and I've never really thought about it before, but, for what it's worth, it's true.

:shrug:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:32 PM
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11. I've never understood gay republicans,
period, white, black, yellow, red, polka-dot, whatever. The GOP HATES gays and is doing everything possible to keep them down and out.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:42 PM
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14. I've never even understood Republicans...
Except for extremely rich and greedy hateful a-holes. But maybe that's my problem. :)
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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:35 PM
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12. I saw 3 women (obvious mulims by their headgear and dress) in a car
with american flags flying outside of every car window and other amercian symbols prominently displayed .....they are in fear of the rednecks and the brownshirts....
Poor gals.
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Fatima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:56 PM
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16. That's pretty much why they do that
But I can assure you that Muslims are getting more and more pissed off at Bush and will be a big part of the move to oust him in '04.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:17 PM
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17. Be calm
It's just an occutrin dealer who's advertising with his flags. Had you followed him farther you would have seen a lot of deals go down.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:19 PM
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18. Some asshole keyed my car b/c of political bumper sticker. Don't descend
to that level.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:26 PM
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19. I would never key a car....but leave me my dreams
Please. :evilgrin:

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:34 PM
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20. Dream of keying the guy's brain with the truth
:)
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:48 PM
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21. If I may Quote Whoopi
makes about as much sense as Jews for Jesus...
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