A meme I haven't seen used against the wingers enough:

[SweetZombieJesus]

Why didn't we bomb Saudi Arabia?

It's a question I like to bring up to dumb wingers whenever they try and justify Shrub's Folly in Iraq, and I think it has a lot more currency with them than bringing up the lack of WMDs or basically anything else we feel made this war a sham. They just don't care about that stuff because THEY LIKE BOMBING PEOPLE. So why not give them hell for not wanting their leaders to bomb people who were actually responsible in some concrete way for 9-11? The Saudi royals have strong ties to Al Qaeda, 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis, so why didn't King George The Brave attack Saudi Arabia?

There really is no defense for them against this meme short of admitting that their Bizarro Kennedys, the Bushes, are in bed with the Bin Laden family and the Saudi Royals, and that they don't really give a shit about terrorism.

Even if you don't think attacking Saudi Arabia is just, it's still a good meme to use against them, and is more likely to get them questioning their leaders, if even just a little.

That's assuming they actually care about this country and have just been misled, mind you.

[sangha]

1. I use that one all the time

in conjunction with "Why aren't we conserving oil in order to defund the terrorists?"

No one, absolutely no one, disagrees with these, inlcuding the Freepers I know.

[LittleApple81]

2. A republican told me "we don't need to conserve oil. We need to

drill in Alaska"

[T Bone]

3. Drilling in Alaska

When they come back with that "we need to drill in Alaska" tell them that if we cut off all other sources of oil, and relied solely on the Alaska reserves including ANWR we would have enough oil to supply our consumption for SIX MONTHS. That is all that is there -six month's worth.

[sangha]

4. I have a better response

I don't address the issue of ANWR directly. Instead, I ask "Even if we did drill in Alaska, and everywhere else in the US, shouldn't we reduce the amount of money we send to nations that fund terrorism by buying less of their oil?"

No one, not even the drill-everywhere Freepers, can argue with that. Drilling in Alaska is a diversionary tactic, meant to get you to stop talking about energy conservation. Don't fall for it!

Stay on message! No matter what they say, bring it back to the message you want to press. Don't fall for items that are related to the issue. Don't feel that you have to address all issue-related points. Remember, you're not pressing an issue, you putting out a message.

[alfredo]

6. Tell them it could take around ten years to get ANWR

oil out of the ground, what should we do in the meantime.

Anyway, shipping the ANWR oil to the US would cost the oil companies a lot more than sending it to Japan. Japan is closer and the oil tankers would have the benefit of favorable ocean currents. The ocean currents would slow down the heavily ladened tankers, if they tried to go south east to the western US. The extra time and fuel would cut into profits.

Look at the ocean currents in and around south Asia to see where Iraqi oil would be best transported.

[Nay]

5. I use the "Why didn't we bomb Saudi Arabia?" meme all the time...

after explaining that 15 of the 19 hijackers were from SA. It shuts them up every time. Every time.