Ughhh, I'm sick of it! There are no WMD, Bush lied.

[Robin Hood]

How do I know that there are no WMD? Because they were never used by Saddam in the defense of Iraq. What better time to test out your vast stock piles of WMD, then when the infidels are storming your castle?

Instead, Baghdad toppled like a sand castle at high tide, and the real war is fought with crude Guerrilla tactics. Very effective, but never the less, tactics used by warriors that don't have much to work with, especially not WMD.

Let's stop these school ground lies about still needing time to find these fantasy weapons, or the "we found an Italian cook book that could be used in a "weapons program". I'm sick of it!

No weapons were used in the storming of Baghdad, period. There are no WMD's. The only WMD are US.

[DuctapeFatwa]

1. I believe you are overlooking a rather large quantity of dual-use sand

Not even the enemies of freedom are able to hide it.

[Robin Hood]

2. That's true,

If heated, that sand could be used to process silicone which in turn be used to create microchips, which were used in a computer that may have been part of a WMD "program".

[treepig]

3. sand is freaking dangerous . . .

have a look at this snippet from the MSDS (material safety data sheet) from a company that sells sand, and then come back, if you dare, and tell me that saddam wasn't a threat!

http://www.msdss.com/pdf/135001.htm

Product ID: SAND
MSDS Date: 04/01/1992 Tech Review: 09/05/1995


Health Hazards Acute and Chronic
INHAL:BRTHG OF DUST CAN CAUSE IRRIT OF NASAL & RESP PASSAGES. LONG TERM OR CHRONIC INHAL OF DUST CAN CAUSE SILICOSIS & LUNG SCARRING INCLUDING FIBROSIS. THE INTERNATIONAL AGENCY FOR RESEARCH ON CANCER HAS IDENTIFIED QUARTZ OR CRYSTALLINE SI LICA AS A POTENTIAL ANIMAL CARCINOGEN. THERE CURRENTLY IS (EFTS OF OVEREXP)
Explanation of Carcinogenicity
CRYSTALLINE SILICA-QUARTZ:IARC MONOGRAPHS SUPPLEMENT VOL 7, PG 341, 1987:IARC CANCER REVIEW:GROUP 2A. NTP 7TH (ING 2)
Signs and Symptions of Overexposure
HLTH HAZ:LIMITED EVIDENCE THAT CRYSTALLINE SILICA IS A HUMAN CARCIN. EYE:MAY CAUSE IRRIT. HIGH LEVELS OF DUST MAY OBSCURE VISION. INGEST:BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF MATL, IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT IT COULD BE TAKEN INTERNALLY. SKIN:MECCH IRRIT M AY OCCUR W/PRLGD EXPOS. LONG TERM EXPOS MAY CAUSE DYSPNEA(SHORTNESS (SUPP DATA)
Medical Cond Aggravated by Exposure
PRE-EXISTING LUNG CONDITIONS.

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First Aid Measures
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First Aid
EYES:FLUSH EYES WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES. SKIN:CAN BE REMOVED FROM SKIN WITH SOAP AND WATER. INGEST:DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE MATERIAL, IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT IT COULD BE TAKEN INTERNALLY. CALL MD IMMEDDIATELY (FP N). INHAL:REOVE TO FRESH AIR. ENCOURAGE COUGHING SPITTING AND NOSE-BLOWING.

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Accidental Release Measures
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Spill Release Procedures
MINIMIZE DUST BE WETTING DOWN SPILLED MATL. SMALL SPILLS:WET DOWN & SWEEP UP. LG SPILLS:NOTIFY SAFETY PERS. CLEAN-UP PERS NEED EYE & RESP PROT. PERSON NOT WEARING PROT EQUIP SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM AREA UNTIL CLEANUP HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

[Robin Hood]

5. Whoa!! That is scary stuff.

I'm wearing a gas mask next time I go to the beach.

[quaker bill]

16. Sand is dangerous

When * goes and finally pounds some of it.

[tridim]

7. Lots of atoms there too

any one of them could spontaneously split on 45 minute notice.

[DeathvadeR]

4. He didn't lie, He was misinformed remember?

Doh!!!!!

[Robin Hood]

6. Bush being misinformed is like

Hitler thinking that the death camps were like summer camp from his youth in Austria, More schnitzel my fuhrer?

[Ress1]

8. Agree.

Almost as if we attacked an unarmed country.

[Robin Hood]

18. Other than RPG's and ancient russian machine guns,

we basically did attack an unarmed country when compared to the arsenal that we un-leashed on those poor people. I'm shocked but certainly not awed, more like embarassed.

[Cocoa]

9. Pat Roberts just said this morning...

he said he wanted to wait for David Kay's final report. I wanted to scream at the TV.

All summer, David Kay was promising results in his Sept. report. That report was made, there's NO WMD, but now they've come up with reasons to keep looking, and they want $600,000,000 more for it! :mad:

[Robin Hood]

10. And no one ever brings up the fact

that no WMD were used in the storming of Baghdad. 600 million to poke in the sadn? Yeah, I'm sure that there is no pork in that figure.

[Cocoa]

12. further, our troops removed their protective gear

I found that very strange at the time, and it still hasn't been explained, but before storming Baghdad, our troops took off their WMD protection suits.

[quaker bill]

15. You noticed that too

Cool, I was thinking I was the only one.

[Robin Hood]

19. Because it was all a lie, and they knew it.

No need to make those soldiers sweat any more than they have to.

[lovedems]

11. As far as I am concerned, David Kay is just another pawn of Bushco.

(Much like the CIA last year) fit the evidence to match the claims Cheney, Rummy and Shrub are spewing. Weapons programs ready to start up ARE NOT stockpiles of weapons. Maybe it is not Kay himself but the misadministrations spin on Kay's findings. Either way, I don't see Kay saying anthing contrary to the spin.

[caledesi]

14. Have you listened to Kay? He's all spin. Disgusting. nt

[caledesi]

13. LG, thank you. I think this should be the mantra:

Iraq did not have WMD, because if they did they would have used them. So logical, so simple....GRRRRR!

[Robin Hood]

17. You're welcome.

Unfortunately logic and critical thinking skills is something that seems to elude this country. Based on this self evident fact alone, the truth about Iraq's WMD's has already been uncovered. No more stalling and no more lies, there are no WMD.

[killbotfactory]

20. No, Saddam just wanted to make Bush look foolish.

Proof Saddam is in league with the democratic party!
Saddama Bin Laden!
9/11!
Support the Troops!
War on Terror!
Evil thugs!
God bless America!

[Robin Hood]

21. lovely graphic

Like there are no religious democrats. I guess Carter is really Satan in sheeps clothing. I don't consider my self religious, I consider my self spiritual.

[ComerPerro]

22. I agree

Its just stupid to think that if Saddam had WMD then he wouldn't have used them.

But you gotta at least gasp in awe at the new spin always being pumped out.

The spin I have heard varies from:

Saddam didn't use his WMD because he knew that if he didn't use it, Bush would look like an ass.

Saddam never had WMD, and pretended to lie about not having WMD (which he didn't have in the first place) to force Bush to attack us.

Saddam had his WMD too well hidden, and therefore couldn't get to them to use them against the US.


Lies, blatent lies. Pure fantasy. but you gotta give them points for creativity.

[Robin Hood]

23. The twists and turns in their "logic",

is truly dizzying. I believe that all those that lie for this dry drunk of a president are suffering from co-dependency.

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[alcuno]

25. What WMD? And what do they matter anyways?

It's obvious that anything they find was of no threat to the US. And who cares what Clinton said? He didn't attack, invade, and occupy a foreign country because of WMD's. Nor did the UN attack, invade, and occupy a member nation.

"Shouldn't saving the Iraqi people from such human rights disasters be enough reason for going to war?" That's a moot point since it happened over a decade ago on OUR WATCH and we apparently didn't have a problem with it then. Besides, that's not why we went in to Iraq so stop trying to change the subject.

"There are caches of banned weapons found that Iraq never documented either." Banned weapons or weapons of mass destruction? The Kay report said no WMD's. Where' the stuff that would cause that "mushroom cloud" we heard so much about. I hardly care if they had some missiles that would go 150km instead of 120km. Incomplete paperwork? We invaded because of incomplete paperwork?

You need to work on your facts. They don't support the original rationale for war.

[Robin Hood]

26. Look who needs some facts.

I'm not going to even bother to address your mis information because I refuse to waste my time on trolls.

P.S. Clinton is not President anymore. When will you accept all this shit going down as being your un-elected pResidents fault? Yeah, right!! The party of morality and responsibility my ass.