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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:35 AM
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Well well went to listen to Kucinich today
in Honolulu...

PACKED HOUSE, and STANDING ROOM ONLY.

It was a great talk and he did surprise me with some of the things
he stated as those are the third rail of politics

He is an AMAZINGLY good speaking and he reafirmed my belief
he is a modern FDR, in many ways...

Can he win? Will see, but he staretd the necesary march to the
center, which will be needed if he is to atract the swing
voters.

Overall a great event... and yes I was able to ask my question, and
his answer was pretty good.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:40 AM
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1. Sorry, I couldn't go
Could you describe what he said and what question did you ask? How long was it?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:51 AM
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3. It lasted oh, 80 minutes total
He dealth with his major platform items.

I was surprised by his statement that it is time to decriminalize
drugs since the so called war on drugs is failing (I know from
personal experience it has failed) Given this is the third rail
of US Polticis I was a tad surprised. Now the other item was going
into detail over the National Health, and by the way people have to
get educasted into what that means... most do not... when he
says single payer.

In indiviual questions he adressed many a concern, including Israel,
and from his anwer, he understands the complexity of the issue, even
if the person asking probably did not. Yep, lets stop enabling, at
least this is my take on it.

Now my question was one of International Law, I agree with Dennis that
we need to bring the troops home... but under International Law we
do have many obligations we have incurred... due to the invasion, so
just leaving is not practical or possible... his answer on to how to
transfer temporary sovereignty to the UN, and ultimately Iraqis, stoping the war profeetering and basically doing what we need, with the International Community to bring the troops, was heart warming. He understands, (but rarely goes into teh nitty gritty, I can understand why) that we need to bring the troops home but it is not just a matter of packing up and coming home. That eased a lot of my concerns.

By they way, if you want we can personally talk about it, send me an email or PM, I'll gladly do coffee... There was far more, and the DNC and I think Kucinich campaign, taped the whole thing. Bear in mind, my question came after the question period, I am glad he chose to take a question from a young kid asking about getting involved, instead of me or my hubby. We both asked hard questions. His had to to with Boyken and the Congress is presing the issue with the Good General who broke his oath.

And yes I got to press the flesh with the Congresman and that was an honor... he also has good taste in Aloha shirts



:toast: :toast:
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:42 AM
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2. What do you mean
by "he started the necessary march toward the center"?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:54 AM
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4. An old truist of US Politics
whether you are on the left or right, is that in order to
atract the swing voter.. you need to go center, on some
issues

Watch bush is starting to do such as well... and so are the
rest of the candidates.

It basically means MODERATING YOUR VIEWS, regardless of
political views.

All politicians do this... and now Dennis is donig it, not surprising
at all... and you do it by changing some of the langauge...

(Remember that infamous Compasionate Conservative? That was
a move to the center, even if George the lesser did not truly believe it)

Now from listening to Dennis on the Well of the House... I know what his views are... so do you, I assume.

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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:56 AM
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5. I know what the march to the center is
I wondered how DK is doing it - i.e., which views is he moderating?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:01 AM
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6. Well with health care
he did not say... lets get the corporations out of health care
but used other language to explain what the Insurance companies
are doing. He did not say something that the boys in the RNC can
use to claim he is a Damn COmmunist (yes Rove would do that in a heart beat), but he said, the business of insurance is well, insurance, and they do nto make their money from caring for people.

That is one example.

Hope this helps, glad you know... I explained it just in case
somebody does not.

Sorry.

<Red Face>
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:08 AM
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7. RNCC will smear DK as a commie no matter what he says
IMHO, he might as well just stop the appeasement tactics and cut right to the chase, get his views out there as plainly as possible. It'd be naive to pretend that a political machine that lies to create wars to pay off campaign contributors would have any trouble lying to run a smear against a Democratic contender... if they thought he had a chance.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:12 AM
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8. He is not gonig to the center because of Rove
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 05:14 AM by nadinbrzezinski
he is going center because this is STANDARD POLITICS in the
US...

reality is the RNC would paint Adolph Hitler as Commie if he ran as
a Democrat... what can I say?

But he is donig this to get the moderate vote where what he is
saying will resound far better the way he did it today.

IT HAS NOTHIGN TO DO WITH APEASEMENT, Dennis and Apeasement do NOT go together.

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:25 AM
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9. Has his policy
changed or just the language?
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:27 AM
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10. OIC
Using different language is one thing. He's the only candidate I believe.

http://www.coloradoforkucinich.net/eds/031001_opednews.asp
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:40 AM
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11. Good going, Hawaii!
I spent two summer sessions (1977 and 1991) at UH-Manoa, and I've always been fond of the place.

Now I have another reason. :-)
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:53 AM
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12. Nice report, Nadin(e?), thanks!

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