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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:30 AM
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Barbara Bush's book
I heard on c-span an excerpt read from her book and it was acclaiming Jeb Bush's intellect and speaking ability but I didn't detect that great a thrill with George. Can you tell me what is up with that? I know I read that Jeb was really the one they wanted to run for president but Chiles won governorship in Florida and set that back, so is this why George was pushed into the race? What's up with this? How can Jeb run in 08 if George is just leaving presidency(God forbid)? Would the country vote for Bush's back to back? Now of course I want this man and administration humiliated and disgraced out of office not just voted out, but I would like some answers to these questions if you can supply them.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:54 AM
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1. Barbara Bush is mentally ill. Her decades-long Graves disease
has addled her brain.

People with thyroid have a huge propensity towards bi-polar issues, as well as manic depression and schizophrenic behavior, including delusions.

She's nuts, like her husband.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:13 PM
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3. Withstanding her brain
problems what is it to the things raised in my questions?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:16 PM
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4. Wow.
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 12:19 PM by JulieRB
>People with thyroid have a huge propensity towards bi-polar issues, as well as manic depression and schizophrenic behavior, including delusions.<

I can't stand Barbara Bush, either, but I really, really take exception to the above.

Radwriter, are you a doctor?

I have been "officially" living with thyroid disease since 1995. I believe I have been hypothyroid since high school. I take my meds daily. Since doctors treat to labs instead of symptoms, most thyroid disease sufferers still have symptoms like lethargy, brain fog, mild depression, very dry skin, hair, and nails, feel cold when everyone else is warm, and gain weight with no apparent reason.

Perhaps those with untreated thyroid disease manifest mental illness. I don't know. I've never heard or read any information linking Graves' Disease to the above. At the same time, it's hard for me to believe that Barbara Bush's comments and attitudes are born of nothing but her long-held (and well-documented,) hatefulness towards others, not thyroid disease.

Julie
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:50 PM
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7. My mother has had graves disease/thyroid problems for the past
40 years, resulting in a hell on earth for me, because of her manic depression, bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia; issues medically associated with Graves. Another interesting side note to her illness, is how it was extremely exascerbated by her two-pack a day cigarette habit, resulting in her having her eye sockets scraped of bone matter to make more room for her swollen eyeballs (side effect of the disease).

For quite some time has there been found to be a direct link between thyroid disorders and various forms of mental illness, specifically those listed above. Sorry you took offense, but the woman IS a bush and is a psychotic lunatic on that point alone; the Graves disease only furthers the point. Sounds like you were spared the issues so many thyroid patients have, luckily for you. Don't take offense where none was intended.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:45 PM
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13. BS - she's just mean. Just flat-out MEAN.
The woman is notoriously nasty and vindictive, disease or no disease. No sympathy for her, and absolutely no making excuses for her behavior.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:51 PM
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15. And some people with Graves are perfectly sane.
Please don't put this on the Graves.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:05 PM
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17. Don't go dissing folks with thyroid problems.
I take medication for mine and I am just fine. Barbara's problem stems from something else. You said "people with thyroid" should be "some people with thyroid problems". We all have a thyroid gland. Cheers!
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:13 PM
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2. Im not worried about Jebby
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 12:17 PM by RummyTheDummy
First off, he's a ninny. Just look at the guy. He's the guy in gym class who got wedgies in the lockerroom or beat up every other day for his milk money. Plus he comes off as slightly efeminate. Which isn't bad, unless you're a male running for president.

On edit: Jeb also has a daughter who is a dope fiend, a teenage son who got caught humping his girlfriend/notch in the bed post and another older son who tried to break into a love interest's home and drove all over her lawn. So much for Repuke family values.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:54 PM
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16. You left out his smuggler wife.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:40 PM
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5. Can't have Jeb steal Junior's birthright - You know how it is with
those religious types (at least the ones who profess loudly from the streetcorners):

The firstborn must have the birthright. Ergo, Junior gets first dibs.

Watch for Jeb 2008 if Bush2.0 is reinstalled in the 2004 upgrade.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:44 PM
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6. This will make you sick:
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=18510

Barbara Bush: I Was Sick of Cocaine Question

NewsMax
10/19/03


NEW YORK -- "There is a myth in the United States -- you've heard it many times. It says that all American mothers hope that their child will grow up to be President of the United States," writes Barbara Bush in her new book "Reflections: Life After the White House," excerpted in the October 27 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, October 20).

The former First Lady writes that in her case, that certainly is a myth.

"But on January 20, 2001, even without having wished that one of our children would grow up to be president, there we were sitting on the west side of the United States Capitol, waiting for our son, George W., to be sworn in as the forty-third president of the United States of America."Afterward, Bush wrote down her thoughts during the inauguration. "I know I should be thinking marvelous deep and lofty thoughts, but I find myself thinking of Al Gore and what he must be feeling," she writes.

"I'm sure he thinks he won the race, and although I don't, I do feel sorry for him. He is gracious, and a minute ago came over to shake our hands and to meet Jenna and Barbara, George and Laura's twin daughters. We've lost and losing is not easy."Referring to campaign trail talk about George W. Bush's past, Bush writes "The feeding frenzy over George's not answering the Big "C" question is driving me crazy. I confess that I had to ask what "C" stood for and was shocked when Doro told me that it stood for cocaine. His dad and I react differently. I am sick of it, yell at the tube, and go into another room. His dad watches every holier-than-thou commentator and political opponent...Incidentally, nobody has come forward to say he did use cocaine, and I have not asked him, nor has his father."

Bush writes that on September 11, 2001, she and husband George were flying to Houston via St. Paul, Minnesota, when the co-pilot reported that a commercial plane had flown into one of the World Trade Center buildings. "Like everybody else, we spent the day glued to the television ... We feared for our children and grandchildren. We were no different from most Americans with one huge exception-we had Secret Service, and so knew that George W. and Laura and the girls were safe."

Bush writes that she thinks now she "didn't really understand" the ramifications of the attack. "I know George realized that day that the world had totally turned around and upside down. I know he knew of the huge problems that faced our son, the President of the United States. It took me much longer to realize that September 11, 2001 was the day the whole world changed; certainly for the United States of America."

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well.. that was kind of unfinished on newsmax's part... Mrs. Bush only says "no one ever said he did " hmmm... if her and Ws dad have never asked him... thats kind of odd...

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What a class act!!!

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QUOTE (ilja @ Oct 19 2003, 05:37 PM)
What a class act!!!


Agreed.


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I've always liked her, classy all the way.
Would love to spend the day with her just to hear her opinions, she is wll informed I'm sure....

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Oh and lori., it may just be a case of parents not really wanting to know.

I don't know if you have kids? but sometimes as much as you want to konw you don't as well.
I know my parents would never as me something like that, might not be right but just simply the way it is..

Just a tought...

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I watched a corresponding interview with Barbara on Dateline (i think it was dateline). I had forgotten what a classy and funny woman that was. Its been a long time since we've had a first lady of her calibre, and I certainly plan on buying her new book.

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QUOTE (sayhellotomylittlefriend @ Oct 19 2003, 10:39 PM)
Oh and lori., it may just be a case of parents not really wanting to know.

I don't know if you have kids? but sometimes as much as you want to konw you don't as well.
I know my parents would never as me something like that, might not be right but just simply the way it is..

Just a tought...


I agree, maybe George Sr. and Barbara simply thought it was not their place to ask. My parents stopped asking personal questions when we became adults, somewhere in the college years. It's not that they didn't care about us, but privacy and respect have always been really high priorities in our family. I guess that's how they were raised and they just passed it on.


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ok, i can concede that point... i would just assume in a political family that what gets written about is talked about among family members...

but she is a good lady, and i havent read the book... so, its all good...

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So what if he did use cocaine, which I don't think he did, but really, who gives a crap anyway? If he did, he's obviously not using it now, and hasn't for a long time. I personally don't give a rat's rump if he ever did. People are way too worried about what someone did 20 or 30 years ago. Nobody's perfect and in George W. Bush's own words, "we're all sinners".

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Maybe he didn't...um...inhale?

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QUOTE (Taliesin52 @ Oct 19 2003, 07:17 PM)
I watched a corresponding interview with Barbara on Dateline (i think it was dateline). I had forgotten what a classy and funny woman that was. Its been a long time since we've had a first lady of her calibre, and I certainly plan on buying her new book.


How good of a first lady do you think bill clinton will make?

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Barbara Bush won my heart the day she referred to Hillary as a "witch" with a "B."


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QUOTE
So what if he did use cocaine,



If he was hoovering up industrial quantities of Charlie, (If he was an alcoholic, then the likelihood is that he was using huge amounts. Drug Addiction is usually pretty indiscriminate, into one, into many) then the problem was that he was buying and using a completely illegal substance. He was routinely breaking the law left right and centre in what his government would describe as a very serious way.


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who gives a crap anyway?



Everyone who is in prison for using or possessing drugs. Why is it a serious crime worthy of lengthy time in prison for some people, and a youthful indiscretion for others?


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If he did, he's obviously not using it now, and hasn't for a long time.



Congratulations to him, he's managed to turn his life around, He's taken many difficult steps. But he's been fortunate to have every single opportunity to put it behind him, and the protection of a father who amongst other things was a senator, head of the CIA,Vice-president and ultimately president. Now he has a whole horde of people who are prepared to forgive him his youthful indiscretions.

If only they were prepared to be so forgiving to other drug users then you wouldn't have quite so many people in jail for the same crimes.

Barbara Bush Strikes me as someone with a lot of dignity.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:52 PM
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8. First of All:
Hasn't it been proven that Bush Sr. was in the war room with Cheney on 9/11?

Second - they don't see the problem with * doing coke but not inhaling was a never-ending story.

Also - they don't see the need to ask their children if they're using coke???? I'm very open and honest with my daughter who is of legal age (21) but if I thought she were messing with coke I'd definitely be asking!
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:58 PM
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9. "...why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
"...why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

-- Barbara Bush on ABC/Good Morning America, March 18, 2003

she's NUTS.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:49 PM
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14. I'm with you radwriter
the woman is a phsycho-*itch. Plain and simple. The quote you just posted says it all! That's all one needs to read to know how her mind works...and it ain't purty! The whole damn family is wacko. :crazy:
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:24 PM
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10. BARBARA'S BUSH
Has anyone else heard about Barbara's legal action against Quaker for using her high school yearbook picture on their oatmeal boxes?
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:31 PM
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11. Of course the country wouldn't vote for Bush back to back
but your vote doesn't count anymore unless we let them know we know.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:41 PM
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12. Well don't forget that Jeb is impuned by his long-time relationship with
Cynthia Henderson, the former playboy bunny he hired for some state paid gig, and put in an office down the hall from him. She was there up until this past February when she 'quit' to be a lobbyist for some computer/educational software firm tied into state contracts for Florida. His affair with her is well noted and acknowledged.

Frankly, I'm amazed that she's still alive. Usually liabilities like her are dead by plane crashes, car crashes or suicides by now. I give her another year, then some mysterious fatality. THEN Jeb will be able to run for prexy.

And you seem to forget that elections are irrelevent now. If a bush is running, he will 'win' no matter if he gets one vote. That's how it is now.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:40 PM
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18. how arrogant
to assume that your family is entitled tp the presidency-and that it's only a matter of figuring out which kid to use.


did you see the old hag on meet the press during the 2000 primaries? she was shocked, just shocked, that jpohn mccain would call her son dishonest. meanwhile rove and his goons were helping dubya spread racist lies about mccain through push polling

best barbara moment ever?
--when phil hartman used to do her in drag on SNL
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