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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:42 PM
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CNN: Democrats don't support the troops
Was watching CNN earlier and there was a conversation between two CNN "journalists" regarding the 87 billion votes in the Senate/House. It went something like this:

CNN 1: So how are Democrats who didn't support the president (i.e. voted against the 87 billion) going to be punished? And the same for Republicans that didn't?
CNN 2: Well Republicans are going to do something you can be sure of that. By the way several prominant democrats such as Polosi and presidential candidates such as Kerry voted nay as well. (at this time the bottom screen text changed to reflect this information) In fact most democrats in the house voted against this. This vote was to support the troops. Democrats that voted against this don't support the troops.
CNN 1: Well that's interesting. Moving on to...

So there two people are providing commentary regarding democrats "not supporting the troops" - making VERY sure to call out Pelosi and Kerry. (as well as another Dem candidate who's name I don't recall)

I haven't watched CNN for a while. Has it typically gotten this bad? Usually they at least have a Lieberman style democrat trying to run shabby defense.

Pretty patehtic.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:45 PM
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1. Yes
It is usually that bad. In fact, it can be a lot worse. Kinda depressing aint it?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:47 PM
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2. names ??
know who they are?
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:07 PM
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19. Laura Inghram said it on Crossfire, today.
.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:45 PM
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25. If this exchange occurred on Crossfire, then it's "editorial content"
To be sure, CNN has been known to "editorialize" within its newscasts, but I would think the CNN "journalists" would know better than to make this kind of direct attack. I could see this statement naturally arising within an interview of some rightwing dipshit opinionator, but not as part of a report.

CNN has been getting very thick on opinion and very thin on analysis over the last few years. 'Course, that's just my opinion.
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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:26 PM
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32. It did NOT occur on cross fire
It was 2 CNN correspondents talking. One of them was in a CNN studio and the other was "live from DC".
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:25 PM
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34. Then it's slander, pure and simple
That kind of behavior in a newscast is actionable.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:49 PM
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3. It's a typical red herring!
The media whores must find a way to deflect public attention of the GIs getting killed every day, AND blame the Dems for it. This won't work, if the troops are still in Iraq a year from now, with the same results.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:52 PM
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6. Good point, Lawson . . . the media was all gung-ho Vietnam too
until the body bags didn't stop. How many times do we have to learn the lesson?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:06 PM
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18. i as a registered Democrat
find that as slanderous, have all of du and the democratic senators file a class action slander suit and watch CNN shit itself
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:50 PM
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4. As more atrocities slip into the media despite the regime's best efforts

We can expect a lot more of that, and we can expect it to intensify.

As soon as the operation to end UN Food Distribution is complete, expect a huge "support the troops" offensive from the regime, to coincide with mop-up operations to stamp out "terrorist groups" who will inevitably attempt to smuggle contraband water and food to Iraqi civilians, just as is done in Palestine.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:50 PM
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5. What the fuck is this shit?
"How will those who didn't vote with the President be punished?"

PUNISHED????

:wtf:


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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:53 PM
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7. Punished AHahah wtf indeed
They will be spanked and attacked by Bill O'Reilly.

:spank: -"how dare you think for yourself!"
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:37 PM
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22. NICE
:puke: :puke:
Thought police can't be far behind.....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:44 PM
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24. come on wulf, you know you have to goose step in tune to Bush INC
or else your sorry ass gets taken out to the woodshed.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:56 PM
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8. I'm am getting really really pissed
I can't take it anymore, too much right wing propoganda makes me f#$%ing crazy.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:57 PM
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9. What the heck does "Support" mean anyway?
I'm a Desert Storm veteran and when I got back I saw all these signs about "Supporting the Troops" and never quite figured out what that meant.

Did it mean using less oil/gas to reduce out dependence on ME Oil?
Did it mean paying a war tax so the war is properly funded?
Did it mean properly funding the VA?

Words are cheap little buggers.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:00 PM
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13. kick
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:58 PM
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10. CNN bush whoring is getting nauseating

see also how they failed to mention bushie James Baker as the lawyer for the SAUDIs being sued by 9/11 victims.

virtually NO integrity left there at all.

watch the national evening broadcasts for anything resembling journalism.

watch cable if you blood pressure is too low.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:58 PM
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11. Did you just see Wolfie's interview with Robert Duvall?
Praising the hell out of Arnold Schwarzegger and Dennis Miller. He said, "I would never be a Hollywood liberal."

Well, I will never waste a dime of my money on any one of his films again either.
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:03 PM
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15. funny you should mention that
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:00 PM
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12. CNN is in the tank for Bush and has been for years.
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 05:44 PM by blm
They always paint coverage of Kerry with that undertone of unpatriotism, because Bush/Rove fear the fight that a head to head with Kerry will portend for them. They want him knocked out in the primaries.

The other candidate they targeted in the piece was John Edwards.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:01 PM
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14. E-mail or call CNN
Every time you see something unprofessional, inappropriate or slanted, give them an earful (politely, of course). I do it every so often. Explain as clearly as you can who the anchor or guest was, what was being said, and when the show aired, plus on which CNN station.

Good luck!
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:03 PM
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17. I do several times a week.
The email is never acknowledged and I would have to email all day long to cover every offensive and incorrect thing said. But thanks for the suggestion anyway. :-)
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:03 PM
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16. CNN in my opinion
has gotten really bad. The lone holdouts are Cross Fire (James Carvell) and sometimes Wolf Blitzer. Lou Dobbs has been asking questionsabout outsourcing lately also.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:26 PM
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20. Lou Dobbs
has been on my "blacklist" ever since the day I heard him read an email from a viewer who was complaining about him being so OBVIOUSLY biased toward the war AND Bush. You know what he said? "Oh well, too bad if you don't like it. I'm a citizen and I'm entitled to my opinion and I happen to like what our President is doing and I support the war. If you don't like it, too bad." My jaw just DROPPED! I was shocked and haven't watched him since.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:55 PM
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27. Wow! he really said that?
I "had" respect for him.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:04 PM
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29. From his mouth
to my ears...he said that! Needless to say I was SHOCKED. I had never ever heard a commentator say anything remotely like that. He said it and I will never watch him again. I sent him an email telling him that too.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:02 PM
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28. Yeah...but the common 'citizen' doesn't have a camera...
...pointed at them with their words going out to millions of other citizens.

- Is this journalism or just infotainment? If they're journalists their OPINION shouldn't matter.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:07 PM
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30. Exactly
and we wonder why Bush has as much support as he does? It's no wonder with what our modern day media has become.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:33 PM
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21. That ain't right
And I though CNN was supposed to be liberal.

Any clue what they mean by that little threat of theirs of punishment?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:43 PM
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23. CNN LIBERAL???
where the f*** did you get that? The best we can hope for is slightly right of center.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:47 PM
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26. looks like the knight forgot to use a /sarcasm tag
cable news is all "fair and balanced" these days, doncha know?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:10 PM
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31. Dems ARE the Goddamned TROOPS
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 06:12 PM by Mari333
we are the families of the goddamned Troops! CNN is full of shit...Rovian whores.
ask any Vet what he thinks of what the GOP is doing to the kids in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the ones who arent coming home, and the families, and the vet benefits.
Guess who doesnt support the Troops and treats them like shit
the GOP and a few spineless Dems who wont stand up like Byrd and Kennedy and say FIE FIE and this WAR is a FRAUD

www.mfso.org
www.bringthemhomenow.com
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:48 PM
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33. Yes
They Are the troops. Great point!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:53 PM
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35. How Republicans (don't) support the troops.
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 07:53 PM by w4rma

The House also narrowly defeated an amendment by Rep. David R. Obey (D-Wis.) that would have shifted $3.6 billion from the Iraq reconstruction fund to the U.S. military to pay for the medical and dental screening of military reservists, for family assistance centers, for pre-paid phone cards for the troops in Iraq, for the transportation of troops on rest-and-relaxation leave, for the construction of more water treatment and power plants for the deployed troops, and for the repair and replacement of damaged equipment. The amendment died, 216 to 209.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38331-2003Oct16.html
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