Real number of dead in Iraq?

[Langis]

Does anyone have the link to the site with the real numbers, not the "in combat" numbers?

[Ninga]

1. This may be what you are looking for...

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

This is an up to the minute, independently compiled site.
My heart aches that such a thing exists.

[Langis]

2. Thank you!

[alcuno]

3. Here's another.

With links to individual local stories. I've been over-the-top mad since last week when I read about two soldiers crushed by a dump truck. Never once reported by our news. To them, they are just garbage.

http://www.pigstye.net/iraq/

[newyawker99]

9. Hi Ninga!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[FauxNewsBlues]

4. What is missing here

How come it appears that nobody dies of wounds? We always hear something like 1 dead, 5 wounded. None of these wounded ever seem to show up as a casualty later on.

I am wondering if they die on the operating table, a couple days later, how they are being counted.

[ThomWV]

6. Exactly

I asked my son the exact same question yesterday. I speculated that maybe 25 guys a day were getting wounded and it had been going on like that for 100 days or so. So out of two or three thousand wounded you'd think someone would have died, but not a word.

[alcuno]

7. I listed a site above that has those who have died in the hospital.

There are not that many and I've heard reports that if they get them medical attention quickly enough, they most often survive.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

11. If they receive medical care within an hour, the survival rate is near

90%. Or so I've heard. That still means an additional 50, or so, deaths, unfortunately.

[karlschneider]

5. Here is another resource. I don't vouch for it, have a look and decide

http://cryptome.org/mil-dead-iqw.htm#August%202003

[Junkdrawer]

8. There are reports that casualty numbers are classified...

Bush calls for ‘whatever is necessary’
MSNBC NEWS SERVICES
WASHINGTON, Sept. 7

Shortly after the speech, NBC’s Norah O’Donnell reported that a growing number of lawmakers, including Republicans, have lately expressed dismay at administration efforts to keep classified the number of U.S. casualties in Iraq. O’Donnell, speaking on MSNBC’s “Hardball With Chris Matthews,” said those casualties included more than 1,100 wounded in the conflict to date.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/951994.asp?0cv=CA00

[jobycom]

10. Anything on Iraqi casualties, especially troops?

I mean, they tend to be human, too. Moms, dads, kids, you know?

Like the song says, a lot of good people died to get a bad man. Forgets to mention we haven't gotten the bad man yet. Either of them.

[leftchick]

12. here you go...

with a lovely quote from tommy franks....
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

[jobycom]

13. Thanks, but still only civilians, not troops

I've heard estimates of over a hundred thousand soldiers killed-- from someone on FOX or MSNBC-- but not seen that verified.

That's a lot of dead people.