BBV...but why do the Republican voters NOT CARE The single issues voters

[patdem]

Black Box Voting is not about Republicans or Democrats but about the theft of ALL votes. It is about corporate america taking over all votes. But the Republicans continue to say it is about the Rebublicans vs the Democrats...well lets examine the proposition:

Hey...I will become a willing slave to corportatism as long a women cannot have abortions

NO crap!...I love corporations as long as homosexuals have no rigts..I will give all of my freedom just so as homosexuals have NONE!!

Honey..if GOD is left out of schools...why not be a slave??? I would be a slave to Corporate America if only the Pledge included the words 'under God'...and we had prayer in schools...

There are MANY minor policies for which we are willing to give up our freedoms for....Some from the green party

I would rather hug a tree ( and have a Republican in office) than vote Democratic???

It is NOT about Republicans, Democrats, and Greens..it is about making sure our votes count....WE MUST DEMAND PAPER AUDITS FOR EVERY ELECTION!!!

[LittleApple81]

1. Do I dare say that if Repugs think the votes are being stolen in

favor of Republicans (and what they think the repug agenda is) they will all be for it?
This would be like the general saying "God made Bush president."

[althecat]

3. I ran an experiment on Freeper BBV psychology the other day...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1001371/posts

It was a bit of a failure as I was promptly tombstoned. Have a look if you like but from what I can see the thinking Freepers agree that BBV is a concern.

The great majority however think that vote fraud is something that Democrats do....

In which case the best strategy may be to seed the idea that these machines are being used to steal the vote from * in 2004... and then they will get completely behind all this.

[patdem]

4. The point is...it is NOT a republican vs democratic war

it is that fact that the people stealinig the votes via BBV are the corporations...just because they are giving to the republicans in not way changes the fact they are big corporations!

[Jason600]

13. i agree

I would like to think, having voted repug and most of the people I know being that, almost all would take the stance that you did. Contrary to popular oppinion, must dem's and repugs are not mindless, even if they dont agree. I have read the book from the site, very interesting. (I am a IND. here trying to be more informed from both sides)

[althecat]

2. Very stream of conciousness there PatDem....

And I think I understand :)

And I sure like the passion !!!!

[patdem]

5. A stream of conciousness??? this is about republicans who are single

issue voters...and they are willing to give up ALL their freedoms in order for their single issue to become law?

I will become a slave to a corporation as long as abortion is no longer available??? I do not think they believe that...but that IS the trade off....they do not CARE who owns the agenda...as long as their SINGLE issue is front and center....SO THEY THINK...but they do not understand what is REALLY at stake...and if they did...they would BACK OFF BIG TIME!!!

[GregD]

6. That's what I ran into with disabled folks

Single issue: I want to vote in a private and accessable manner - and beyond that I don't care how they count the votes.

Fortunately I realize that there are plenty disabled folks who will speak out against that, but that's exactly what I ran into - single, narrow focus...

[patdem]

8. Perhaps being a single issue voter is really a disability???

I think it is...and how many disablied republicans are out there?

[JohnGideon]

16. I Really Think That's Why The LWV Is Against Us

The disabled groups have believed all of the garbage from the manufacturers and are dead set against paper ballots. The League of Women Voters is siding with the disabled groups.

It's not a matter of lost, changed, stolen votes; it's a matter of the disabled feeling that they finally have a chance to vote without someone aiding them.

Of course the answer is, let them have their machines and those machines can be used without paper and totaled using the machine total. All the rest (about 99.5%) would have paper ballots for the total. If it was presented to them that way, there shouldn't be a problem and if the disabled voters are happy, the LWV would follow.

[GregD]

17. In case you missed this earlier

Here is a site run by LWV members who oppose the national position, and align strongly with the pro-VVPB arguement.
http://www.leagueissues.org

[Jason600]

14. not really....

while I will not argue with any other point, the abortion issue for some is different. In their view, right or wrong, abortion is murder. So, in their mind, you asking why they care only about murder instead of coruption..... the two for them do not come close. I dont agree with this but from what I have seen, it is true

[patdem]

7. Here are the single issues the republicans would become slaves to

abortion...flag burning....'under God'...pot smoking...taxes...welfare...homosexuals...prayer in school
10 commandments on public property...socialism....tree huggers (SUV's and global warming)...Affirmative action

I know there are many more 'single' issues that the republicans would love to say...only 'republicans' are with us on this...and so they give their vote over to a corporation that could care less about their views...and if the corportation can make money going against their views then they are trash....

But they continue to pretend the 'republicans' are looking after their interests....

[GregD]

9. Just the same way

they pretend * was elected...

I tried to tell a freeper this weekend about the voter purge list and could never get through the story - he simply was unwilling to listen, and interrupted me with his gloating over our Iraq successes until I gave up and walked away...

[patdem]

10. Iraq success...what success??? are you referring to the bush*

media success push...or what???

[GregD]

11. I have to tell ya

I was there for a stream restoration project that means a lot to us, and I really coudn't just "up and leave", but it seriously came close. I just about came unglued... Yep, he is absolutely thrilled we are there, and think it is wonderful... In fact he thinks everything Bush* does is wonderful... Grrrr

[patdem]

12. Well, you know..the 'Final Solution' also proposed to murder the disabled

so there you go....you and bush* have come up with the 'Final Solution'..only just starve them to death..no need to put them in ovens and all those horrors...just starve the programs and starve the people. Should be called the 'Simple Solution' after our pResident!!!

[GregD]

15. Uhhh

Me and bush*? Don't think so... Not sure if you misinterpreted something I said, but I certainly am not taking a position against disabled persons. Just a few misguided persons that need to be better informed and brought around to the right side of this debate.