The Senate Roll-Call Vote on "Partial-Birth Abortion"

[Atlant]

Here's the list of who voted which way, grouped by Vote and Party:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00402

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 108th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Conference Report (S. 3 Conference Report )
Vote Number: 402 Vote Date: October 21, 2003, 05:09 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Conference Report Agreed to
Measure Number: S. 3 (Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 )
Measure Title: A bill to prohibit the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion.

Vote Counts: YEAs 64
NAYs 34
Not Voting 2


Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---64

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (R-CO)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nickles (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Carper (D-DE)
Conrad (D-ND)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)

NAYs ---34

Chafee (R-RI)
Collins (R-ME)
Snowe (R-ME)

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 2

Hutchison (R-TX)

Edwards (D-NC)

[truebrit71]

1. If the spineless Dems had voted Nay this wouldn't have passed

Senators Biden, Byrd, Leahy, Daschle et al you should be ashamed of yourselves for falling for this attack on a woman's right to choose....

This whole debate was framed from the very beginning by the zealots and there wasn't a Dem out there with the stones to take it back and put it in perspective.....

I am FURIOUS!!!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

3. but Byrd is God here on DU

glad to see Kerry sticking to his guns and voting his conscience as usual.

Oh and Lieberman haters should get a grip and see the man is a good liberal too.

[jiacinto]

20. Could it be that they think differently?

Maybe they actually disagree with you. Did that ever occur to you?

Now, as for Byrd and Daschle, should they put the wishes of a small minority of extreme left wing activists ahead of their own constituents who elected them?

They both represent states that are conservative on issues like abortion. Do you expect them to vote against their constituents to please you?

[redqueen]

22. But what about the gun manufacturer's liability bill?

Does Daschle support the bill limiting liability for gun manufacturers because of his constituents too?

I've heard it 'limits' liability and I've heard it eliminates it entirely, not sure which is fact.

[Woodstock]

24. Baloney, jiacinto

did it ever occur to YOU that they didn't agree? and neither did their constituents?

and did it ever occur to you that some of the Republicans who voted for it didn't agree either, they just played the game to win?

polls consistently show 60% of Americans are OK with Roe v. Wade/support abortion rights if the question is put simply and not worded with Republican rhetoric - and this bill was the first step at undoing it - and earth to you, West Virginians are NOT conservative

this was called the "give the bully the lunch money and maybe he'll leave us alone" strategy the so-called Democratic "leadership" has been employing all along - they've lost their chance at the House, the Senate, and now likely the Presidency by playing the game this way

Senator Mouse AKA Senate Minority "Leader" and the others could have shown LEADERSHIP and exposed this for the the religious right vote grab it is

[jiacinto]

25. And of course then voted against the people who elected him

That's not a wise prescription if one wants to stay in office.

[Woodstock]

27. I just said the people supported abortion rights

so why would he be "voting against" them if he voted against a bill that doesn't protect the health of a woman?

if he perceives that is what they wanted, then it's a failure on HIS part

[WillyT]

26. Yes Carlos, They Should !!! --- It's Called LEADERSHIP !!!

"Do you expect them to vote against their constituents to please you?"

Not to please me. But to go to their constituents, through townhall meetings, political ads, etc., and reframe the debate so his state's voters are BETTER INFORMED! It would have been the right and courageous thing to do. We have a representative republic where the voters trust their representatives to better informed than most of them, and to do what is in their best interest. He was elected to do right by the people of his state. In that respect, he has utterly failed, and the political consequencs were already paid out in 2002. We already lost the Senate, remember.

Maybe when we see some of our Dems actually take right and courageous stands against the fundamentalist facists, we might encourage others, and might actually win a few election along the friggin way!!!

:grr:

[Woodstock]

28. and also, quite a few people supported the Iraq war who no longer do

support for the war has dropped significantly since they learned about the lies - and that was just a few months later

similarly support for Bush dropped once they learned about his lies

funny how, when the propaganda falls away, and the truth emerges, perceptions change

Senator Tommy Mouse did a lousy job - admit it

[Hep]

2. What do you expect

when even people on this board are willing to use THEIR terminology.

YOU helped this happen.

[Atlant]

10. Excuse me, but I "quoted" someone

> What do you expect when even people on this board are willing to use THEIR terminology.
>
> YOU helped this happen.

I believe you must have missed the quotation-marks in the
title of my thread. And the rest of the language in my thread
was taken from the Senate's Web Page.

Please don't blame this abomination on me; I send my political
donation to Planned Parenthood every year as well as supporting
the local battered-women's shelter AND a home for discarded
kids!

The people to blame for this are all the folks who thought that
Bush wouldn't actually do the things we all knew he would.

Atlant

[Township75]

4. Edwards showed a lot of balls by not voting...

what a freaking joke....you're running for president and you cant take a stand.

[Red_Storm]

5. Both Senators from my state voted against it ....good,,,, but....

Look at all the Dem's that voted for it....not good.....

[IndianaGreen]

7. "balls" is right, easy for a fucking man to vote against abortion rights

when the sonofabitches are not the ones that get pregnant!

Fuck Edwards!

[Atlant]

11. Actually, don't fuck him.

> Fuck Edwards!

Actually, don't fuck him. He might leave you pregnant with
no options.

(Women could end this issue in about ten days if all women
refused to fuck ANY man who didn't stand four-square
behind women's reproductive rights.)

Atlant

[Woodstock]

33. :-)

There are lot of good ones here, but unfortunately, we've spent way too much time these past few days arguing with guys who just don't get it.

[Atlant]

38. Thanks!

> There are lot of good ones here, but unfortunately, we've spent way
> too much time these past few days arguing with guys who just don't get it.

Yeah, but if they never "got it" any more, then they might eventually "get it". :-)

Atlant

[NewYorkerfromMass]

9. I think he may have lost a lot of votes in NH, Iowa,

but not sure what it means for SC now.

BTW Look at Lieberman voting against! I hope that's enough to quiet the 'Holy Joe' brigade here at DU.

[LeahMira]

14. Religious challenge?

Look at Lieberman voting against! I hope that's enough to quiet the 'Holy Joe' brigade here at DU.

According to Jewish law, life begins when the crown of the head presents in the birth canal. Lieberman is voting his conscience as informed by his religious beliefs.

Jewish law would sometimes encourage a woman to abort a pregnancy because Jewish law gives precedence to a woman's existing life over the potential life of any fetus, no matter how far along. A rabbi would be able to explain the details, but this late-term abortion ban could be challenged as government interference with religious practice I would think.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_abor.htm

http://www.jlaw.com/Briefs/casey4.html

[Woodstock]

29. Good for him - I will ease up

but I still disagree with his Iraq/fiscal policy

[HFishbine]

40. Edwards

Edwards has some good rhetoric, but he's proven time and time again in his short stint in the senate that he votes (or abstains) for political expediency: IWR, Patriot Act, Off-Shore oil exploration of his home state, Abortion.

He'd learn a lot serving as VP under someone with some backbone, but that's the best he's qualified for at this point.

[eyesroll]

6. Both my senators are in the "nay" column!

Go Kohl & Feingold! (I met them both this week. Good guys.)

[RetroLounge]

12. Hey, good to see you here

Where did you meet our Senators?

I used to see Kohl at Ma Fischers all the time on the East Side...

[David__77]

8. I think this will be overturned.

Hopefully once this is overturned (if it is), then they can add a health exception which would indeed cover all cases in which these procedures are carried out. Then the law would be meaningless.

I wonder after the whole "partial birth" issue fades what the anti-abortion rights people will move on to. I also predict that support for abortion rights will rise a bit before long as some recognize "hey, these people are serious. They don't just OPPOSE abortion, they want to throw people in prison!"

[Woodstock]

30. that's our job, since the DNC wants to cede the game

by giving away a little here, a little there, until there is nothing left

we can't count on the corporate media to educate them

we sure as hell can't count on Senator Tommy Mouse

Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean and Diane Feinstein and the other strong true Dems will help, but we need to get the word out, too

[Kool Kitty]

13. Glad to see my guys

voted "NO"-Corzine and Lautenberg. :loveya:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

15. Interesting about Chafee, Snowe, and Collins

The moderate pubs are supposed to be mainly about fiscal responsibility, didn't know it carried into social/ideological issues.
I am writing letters to all 3. This charade has go to stop.
They have got to stop associating with the modern day, Hatch/Frist lead evil GOP. I don't care if they just go Ind. like Jeffords, this tacit support of Bush by remaining Repubs has got to stop.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

16. Just another political vote folks (like IWR)

nothing to see.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

17. why,oh why,oh why

do I have to kick this? :shrug:

[arwalden]

18. Thanks Barbara Mikulski! Thanks Paul Sarbanes!

I'm glad I'm from Maryland.

-- Allen

[NewYorkerfromMass]

19. Can't believe Pat Leahy though

New England's rebel?

[Woodstock]

32. they are Democrats

through and through

made a mistake on Iraq

but that's rare for them

you can count on them to support the platform

[jiacinto]

21. Should Daschle vote against his constituents

Do you honestly think that Daschle is going to vote against the constituents who elected him? Maybe he comes from a conservative state, where people may disagree with you all here. Should he put the wishes of a small minority of extreme left wing activists ahead of the constituents who elected him?

[Woodstock]

31. see my answer above to your bogus question

[jiacinto]

35. Why is it bogus

Wasn't Daschle elected to serve the people of South Dakota? Or was he elected to serve the people at DU?

[jiacinto]

23. Lieberman haters, take notice

He voted no on this bill. But I fully expect you all to claim that he did.

[WillyT]

34. And You'd Be Wrong Again !!! --- I Truly Appreciate Lieberman's Vote Here

Do I want him as my President???

OH HELL NO!!!

:hi:

[jiacinto]

36. I am not voting for him either

I just know that some poitn down the line the Lieberman haters are going to claim that he supported this bill when he didn't!

[TSIAS]

37. Both my senators voted No

Graham and Nelson from FL.

[Atlant]

39. Does anyone have any insight into why Patrick Leahy voted as he did?

I mean, with the exception of Leahy and our two numb-nuts
from New Hampshire, ALL of New England (including
three Republicans!), NY, and NJ voted against this PoS.

So why did Leahy (normally a pretty reliable Democrat) vote
"Yes"?

Atlant