Rightwing Wants to Make Your Most Personal, Private and Painful Decisions

[Beetwasher]

for you.

Why are they so obtrusive?

Let's say you're pregnant. You WANT to have a baby. You're in your third trimester and you find out the baby is badly deformed, possibly encephalitic and additionally, going through w/ the birth would put your life in jeopardy. You have a tough, painful, PRIVATE decision to make that should be between you, your husband and your doctor. But no, the rightwing in this country wants to FORCE you to go through w/ the birth. Is that right? What happened to the idea of keeping the gov't out of people's lives that conservatives are so fond of parroting? Or does that rhetoric only apply to taxes?

Another example: You're wife or husband is badly injured and kept alive by machines and tubes. She has no chance at recovering. She has made it known she doesn't want to live like this. It's painful, it's private and it should be between you, your family and the doctors. But no. The rightwing wants to FORCE you to keep her alive and deal daily w/ the pain of seeing her in a condition you KNOW she doesn't want to be in and to also to pay her expensive medical bills. Again, what happened to privacy?

These are the most personal, private, painful decisions people can possibly make and the rightwing wants to FORCE people to adhere to their twisted, religious version of morality. I'll tell you what, this isn't about morality at all. It's about CONTROL. They squawk about getting gov't out people's lives when it comes to taxes, but they want to be in your life when it comes to the most private, personal decisons you can make; who you can marry, what type of sex you can have, what you can do to your body etc. It's sick, it's twisted and there's no excuse for it. Anybody who suggests otherwise should have no problems with me placing a camera in their bedroom to monitor their every activity and telling them how to behave there when I see them doing something I dislike. That's what the rightwing is doing.

[niyad]

1. of course it's about control, specifically control of women and their

reproductive functions. you notice that the same people who want government OUT of business, have no problem being in people's bedrooms.

pity more people don't understand that

[Kool Kitty]

2. I agree, but I was going to put it more graphically:

they want government out of business, but they have no problem getting between your legs. Male or female-they're not particular. Reproductive freedom, gay rights, etc.

[niyad]

3. so very true. have you seen the bumper sticker/poster

that reads: "bush: stay out of mine"? pretty much covers it.

[Beetwasher]

6. Corporations have more "personal" protection from Gov't intrusion

than actual individuals...

[KG]

4. recall how much the RWers whine about 'getting gov't out of our lives?'

:shrug:

[Lindacooks]

5. Yep

That's exactly what infuriates me. The constant hypocrisy is really mind-blowing. I just can't understand why more people can't see through it. And the misogyny is rampant among repukes. They seem to think that women go happily skipping off to get abortions: "oh boy, I get an abortion today!"

Every day I hate repukes more.

And they're always there to interfere in your private decisions and to force their 'morals' (and I use that word loosely) on you, but you get NO help at all with the consequences of those decisions - children living below the poverty line, paying unbelievable medical bills, living with the pain and agony.

[Beetwasher]

7. Deregulate Deregulate Deregulate

In other words, deregulate corporations as much as possible and tax them as little as possible. These are areas that the gov't absolutely SHOULD be involved in. Making sure corporations don't screw people and that they pay their fair share of taxes.

But they want to regulate individuals' lives as much as possible. No gay marriage. No sodomy. No abortion. No euthanasia. No pot smoking. etc....

[elfwitch]

8. moral convictions

I think it has a lot to do with their moral/religious convictions. I have noticed that they feel they have the right to tell you how to live your life because they fell that their moral code is superior and that they are saving you from your inferior morality. kinda like that whole "witnessing" thing. They are expected to go out and tell people they are sinners and try to set them on the straight and narrow. The really irritating part is that they really don't practice what they preach. They spend all their time up in other people's business and never mind their own.

[Beetwasher]

9. The hypocrisy is legion

But it's really more than that. For politicians anyway it's all about control. It's a deep rooted psychological perversion to control other people's behavior. By looking outward and condemning others they don't have to look inward at their own pain.

[rucky]

15. That's America - Right There!

You summed it all up. People, politicians, and the "personality" of our Country - historically.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

10. Are you referring to the Schiavo case?

Another example: You're wife or husband is badly injured and kept alive by machines and tubes. She has no chance at recovering. She has made it known she doesn't want to live like this. It's painful, it's private and it should be between you, your family and the doctors. But no. The rightwing wants to FORCE you to keep her alive and deal daily w/ the pain of seeing her in a condition you KNOW she doesn't want to be in and to also to pay her expensive medical bills. Again, what happened to privacy?

What if the husband KNOWS she DOESN'T want to be killed but because of his own selfish reasons wants her dead?

The evidence in this case is the word of the husband (the rest of the family don't want her to be killed) and his word is far from trustworthy. He originally argued that she should given assistance, and NOW he is arguing that she should be killed. Why did he suddenly change his mind as to what her wishes were?

Could it be that his fiance and their two children are colouring his decisions?

He is obviously NOT as torn up over her condition as many people seem to think, after all it never prevented him from getting on with his life and having kids with another woman.

So why should an unfaithful husband have the final say over and above her faithful family?

This case is VERY different to the abortion case you refer to. In the case of late term abortion a person's life is in jeopardy, and the family of the other person (the unborn child) has decided that the quality of life of the baby would be non-existant and thus not worth the risk to the mother. In the Schiavo case, the husband's life is NOT in jeopardy, and the majority of her family do NOT want her to be killed.

[niyad]

11. the husband is NOK and the family are not. and just because

the husband went on with his life some time during the 13 years she has been in a coma does not make him the monster some people are trying to create.

[Beetwasher]

13. NOK?

What's that mean?

[niyad]

16. Next Of Kin-- meaning he has the legal standing and they don't

[Beetwasher]

17. Thanks!

Should have known that...

[Beetwasher]

12. Nope

I used a generic example because I didn't want to get into a discussion about that specific case, although my post was partly inspired by it.

However, the power the Gov. now has is innaproprate. He was given the power to deal w/ that specific case, but it can now be used in others. Do you trust him with that power? Why does the Gov. get to make the decision for that family? Sorry, but regardless of the specifics of that case, these decisions should be between the family and doctors and the gov't should not be involved unless it goes to court at the behest of the family members, then it's a problem for the judicial system NOT the Governor. Why should one person, the Governor, who is unrelated and unaffected by the outcome get to make the decision for a family? This is a personal, private, painful decision and the Governor should not have the power to decide on his personal, twisted whim because he likes the power to control peoples lives.

[janx]

14. It is a frightening abuse of power.

And now some FL legislator has written a letter to none other than...CHIMPY, asking him to intervene!

I posted it in a Schiavo thread in LBN.

[Beetwasher]

18. Indeed

These scum enjoy playing political games w/ people's lives...