What was the cause of Nigergate ?

[Junkdrawer]

Poll question: What was the cause of Nigergate ?

Nigergate is, of course, the assertion that phony intelligence was used to justify the invasion of Iraq. I'm curious about what the average DUer thinks is at the bottom of the scandal.

[Junkdrawer]

1. OK, see if this Sy Hersh article changes your mind...

THE STOVEPIPE
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH

Since midsummer, the Senate Intelligence Committee has been attempting to solve the biggest mystery of the Iraq war: the disparity between the Bush Administration’s prewar assessment of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and what has actually been discovered.

The committee is concentrating on the last ten years’ worth of reports by the C.I.A. Preliminary findings, one intelligence official told me, are disquieting. “The intelligence community made all kinds of errors and handled things sloppily,” he said. The problems range from a lack of quality control to different agencies’ reporting contradictory assessments at the same time. One finding, the official went on, was that the intelligence reports about Iraq provided by the United Nations inspection teams and the International Atomic Energy Agency, which monitored Iraq’s nuclear-weapons programs, were far more accurate than the C.I.A. estimates. “Some of the old-timers in the community are appalled by how bad the analysis was,” the official said. “If you look at them side by side, C.I.A. versus United Nations, the U.N. agencies come out ahead across the board.”

There were, of course, good reasons to worry about Saddam Hussein’s possession of W.M.D.s. He had manufactured and used chemical weapons in the past, and had experimented with biological weapons; before the first Gulf War, he maintained a multibillion-dollar nuclear-weapons program. In addition, there were widespread doubts about the efficacy of the U.N. inspection teams, whose operations in Iraq were repeatedly challenged and disrupted by Saddam Hussein. Iraq was thought to have manufactured at least six thousand more chemical weapons than the U.N. could account for. And yet, as some former U.N. inspectors often predicted, the tons of chemical and biological weapons that the American public was led to expect have thus far proved illusory. As long as that remains the case, one question will be asked more and more insistently: How did the American intelligence community get it so wrong?

Part of the answer lies in decisions made early in the Bush Administration, before the events of September 11, 2001. In interviews with present and former intelligence officials, I was told that some senior Administration people, soon after coming to power, had bypassed the government’s customary procedures for vetting intelligence.

A retired C.I.A. officer described for me some of the questions that would normally arise in vetting: “Does dramatic information turned up by an overseas spy square with his access, or does it exceed his plausible reach? How does the agent behave? Is he on time for meetings?” The vetting process is especially important when one is dealing with foreign-agent reports—sensitive intelligence that can trigger profound policy decisions. In theory, no request for action should be taken directly to higher authorities—a process known as “stovepiping”—without the information on which it is based having been subjected to rigorous scrutiny.



More..

http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/031027fa_fact

BTW: I think they flat out lied too.

[Junkdrawer]

2. Well, at this posting, it's 0, 0, 0, 18

:kick:

[WilliamPitt]

3. #3 and #4 are the same

They bypassed the intelligence commun ity with the OSP so they could get away with lying. 3 and 4 are applicable.

[Junkdrawer]

4. Is that...

1.) Selective intelligence is a form of lying. There's always just about anything you could want in the sea of raw intelligence.

2.) The admin. planted the phony stories to begin with and the stovepipe was used to prevent the vetting process from killing it.