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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 08:55 AM Original message |
A Rural Strategy for Democrats |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. If the Democratic party wants to win, please listen to this |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Right on! The Democratic Party has sold out rural America |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe |
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reachout (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. Excellent article |
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NicoleM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. They don't need to care. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. What unadulterated bullshit! |
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NicoleM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Chill out, dude. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. But I'm not talking about the "attitude of politicians"... |
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NicoleM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Of course it would be beneficial. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Believe me, I don't know if anyone is more cynical than me... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. We had the "Happy Pappy" program during the War on Poverty.... |
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abudabbi (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. Gephardt is the only one who can get the rural vote |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. READ THE ARTICLE -- the key is not "image" |
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abudabbi (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. well it's true |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. This isn't just about Presidential elections, anyway. |
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abudabbi (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. So signing the civil unions was the centrist thing to do? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Civil unions was a court decision, Dean did NOT push it |
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VermontDem2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Click on his profile Icon |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Thanks. I had my suspicions... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
76. Dean will win the Iowa caucuses so you don't know what in the |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. He, and others, can not... IF |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
75. Just because you say he is an elitist doesn't make it so |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. I haven't looked at Gephardt's proposals in detail |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:15 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Lydia, FYI, you're posting to a tombstone. (n/t) |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. I don't want to live in a world where Dean and Kerry are considered |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Brian... you're talking to a tombstone. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Bolony |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Once again, you're replying to a tombstone... |
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pstokely (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
86. Gephardt is a city slicker |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. As a rural resident I agree |
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markus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
14. They also worry about guns. An anti-gun Democratic Party is doomed... |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Once again, READ THE ARTICLE. It addresses this! |
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Maine Mary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
71. Guns are important in rural areas |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. The gun issue |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. But wouldn't you say that rural people see it as a local issue? |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. That is kinda |
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Maine Mary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Yeah it's a local issue |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. Here is my problem with all of this. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 09:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Protection from corporations? Government has been ENABLING them! |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. The subsidies that ADM and their ilk receive |
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Flying_Pig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. The big farming/ranching corporations are not getting most of the |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I must say that my experiences are much different... |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. What should we be doing to help the farmers? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. It's not just about helping farmers -- it's about helping the rural US |
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dkamin (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. 6 words |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. That's why "one size fits all" answers don't work |
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Flying_Pig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Bingo Brian! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. So what you're saying is that.... |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Whoa there Flying Pig! |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Thank you Muse Rider! |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. That is a great point! |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:13 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. You learn these things from growing up in a rural area |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:27 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. My father never had shoes. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. As far as sterile corn goes,MR |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. That was not the problem. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Grain bin restrictions it sounds like |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I hope to be living on my farm by |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
83. Muse as you know I am a suburban boy but |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Hi John! |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
27. I rember a couple of years ago Pat Kennedy |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yep. The article mentions that -- it was in 1999 |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
35. I'm a confirmed city mouse, but... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. And don't forget Bernie Sanders |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Vermont |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Historically, rural areas have been some of the most radical |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Being a midwesterner |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:17 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Hey, Ficus -- the article talks about an infusion of liberal Senators... |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. WOW you are right again! |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Maybe you and me should start a political consulting business! |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Well you got something there. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Also, Minnesota was the only state |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
82. The most popular senators in recent Illinois' memory: |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
40. one point |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
46. Wanna Get The Rural Vote? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
52. This article prompted my memory |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. "Farmers and ranchers have a suicide rate 5x the rest of America" |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Damn. |
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VeniceBeat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
61. Concurrent Discussion of This Article on corrente |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Thanks |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Read through it -- very similar to the discussion here |
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Hep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. The AJC on Dean's appeal-Rural strategy |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. From thread article |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
69. Where I live is about as rural as 'the heartland' gets |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
70. Guns |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. You obviously didn't read the article, as usual, Carlos |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:29 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. They do need to address their issues |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 02:41 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. But you know what a big part of that is, right? |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-03 01:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. I disagree |
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