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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 04:22 PM
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White Rose Society Fundraising Appeal
Hey, folks!

Demand for White Rose shows has grown so quickly that I was forced today to spend $480 on additional hosting space for the new shows; "The Randi Rhodes Show" and "Enid Live with Enid Goldstein" as the demand had totally saturated my DSL line and I was finding it impossible to record shows and update the site.

Of course, I've been unemployed for some time, and this was a LOT of money to me in present circumstances.

Those of you who use the services of the White Rose archives, and who can afford to chip in, please consider doing so now. I would really appreciate it! Donations can be made via PayPal or Amazon Honor System via links on the site, or can be mailed to me. (Email me for my postal address if you need it.)

I could really use the help to keep White Rose growing!

Thank you so much!

-Ben Burch
White Rose Society Webmaster
webmaster@whiterosesociety.org
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:13 PM
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1. I donated last night, Ben.
But I'll be glad to keep this kicked for you because what you're doing is so terrific.

C'mon, DU'ers, donate to this great cause. Ben archives Malloy, Hartmann and Werbe as well.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:18 PM
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2. And thank you so much!
I saw that donation! It was GREATLY appreciated.

-Ben
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 05:40 PM
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3. What is the white rose anyway?
I know the historical White Rose but isn't their a anti abortion group called white rose now?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:02 PM
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4. What is the White Rose?
Well, as you know, the original White Rose Society was a German student resistance movement during WW-II. Most of those connected with it were beheaded or imprisoned by the Nazis.

I chose this name for my web effort to resist the New American Fascists (aka the GOP) because I have always greatly admired their bravery.

At the White Rose Society web page; http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org/ I archive Liberal/Progressive talk shows from Mike Malloy, Peter Werbe, Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, and Enid Goldstein. I archive 13 hours of liberal/progressive talk radio each day, and serve over 1500 people on a daily basis, tranferring well over 5 GB of data each day. Growth rate for access to the archives has been about 10% per month on an ongoing basis.

All files served on the White Rose are in MP3 format so that people can load them onto portable players, and not remain rooted to their computers.

Until there is again a fairness doctrine in broadcasting, Liberal/Progressive media must use all available methods to reach its audience, and I have made it my goal to get as many different Liberal voices as possible to the People.

-Ben Burch
White Rose Society Webmaster
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 06:28 PM
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5. Kick for the archivers.
:kick:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:36 PM
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6. Thanks!
.
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:55 PM
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8. You bet!
Are you kidding? I'll be kickin' this thread all over town. :)

It's a very very cool thing you do. Getting the bugs out?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:34 PM
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16. The bugs...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 09:55 PM by benburch
...Most of the "bugs" recently were coming from how busy the machine was running the apache server at the same time as the recorders while all these things trying to use the same half-T1 rate DSL line. Six quarts in a four quart pail. The fix is what I did today; Real hosting.
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:42 PM
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20. Well, thanks for making the move, Ben...
Outstanding. We donated last week and will again when we can. Keep this kicked and I'm certain that DU folks that use the archives will see it and pony up. Thanks again for getting the space.

Ron
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:05 PM
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40. You're welcome!
And thanks for the donation!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:38 PM
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7. Thanks Ben--I use your site daily
I'll donate tonight

and please try to get Bernie Ward too!
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:22 PM
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9. kick
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 08:24 PM by Woodstock
I use the Mike Malloy archives. Thanks.

I made a donation, but didn't like the link from your page. It didn't have www.paypal.com showing in the URL box - and I don't enter my password if not. I'm assuming it was there in a frame, but I didn't feel like dealing with that. If anyone else has a similar concern, you can go through www.paypal.com and do a send money transaction to donations@whiterosesociety.org

Hope this is OK for me to post - but I had gone to make a donation before and stopped because of this, so it might be preventing some people from donating.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:08 PM
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12. Thank you, Woodstock!
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 09:38 PM by benburch
Yeah, it is in a frame with "URL-keeper" so that the redirect from my domain registry is hidden when you wind up on the .mac account...

I'll look into what I need to do to fix that issue!

Thanks so much for the donation!

-Ben
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:21 PM
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14. Fixed it!
Needed to have a 'target="_top"' in the <form action> statement to target the paypal form to the top window outside of the frame...

:argh:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:28 PM
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10. Done
And thanks for accepting PayPal. It makes it so easy!
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:43 PM
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11. thanks for the site and a Question
thanks for doing that site. I only learned of it a month or so ago. I'll make a donation tonight.

I noticed that you recently added Enid Goldstein. I'm not familiar with her, and haven't had a chance to listen to any of her shows yet. I looked her up and saw that she was out of Denver. But, who is she? What does she stand for? What makes her a liberal or progressive? Thanks again.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:28 PM
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15. Enid Goldstein...
Well, she runs an interesting talk show. She is a Liberal, and no matter what sort of topic she is working on, she usually gets around to some way to critique the Commander in Thief. Her show is not completely political, but her liberal politics informs the discussion at all times. I think she is a nice change of pace from the other shows I host where it is all politics all the time.

Give her a listen!

-Ben
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:14 PM
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13. I sent in a small token amount yesterday...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 09:44 PM by Oracle
and will send more...shit, right now!

Thanks for your site...(wish you could advertise and get the word out even more than word of mouth...hopefully donations will roll in.)

Again, Bernie Ward comes on so late for East Coast people and even for some left coast people as well...perhaps you can get KGO to go along and get his show on your site.

Here comes another in a series of donations.

Thanks again.

OK, I just sent in double what I sent in yesterday, via PayPal...more next week.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:35 PM
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17. Many thanks!
I really appreciate the help!
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:36 PM
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18. Your more than welcome...but what about getting Bernie Ward?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 09:44 PM by Oracle
Is it possible?

By the way, I too will keep this thread kicked...because it is so important!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:41 PM
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19. Bernie Ward...
I'll try again to contact Bernie Ward or his Producer... I sent out some email a couple of months ago, but got no reply. And I will only archive shows when I have the rights holders "on board" for it. I saw what they did to Napster!!!

-Ben
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:40 PM
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42. Bernie Ward...
OK, I am getting ready to work on getting Bernie Ward...

Does anybody here know him? If so, would you be willing to be an intermediary? I find that this works much better than going in "cold."

Thanks!

-Ben
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:55 PM
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21. Kick!
:kick:
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:26 PM
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22. Double Kick!
:kick: :kick:
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:28 PM
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23. Kick me.
:kick:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:31 PM
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24. $150 so far!
Thanks to all of you who have helped!

$330 to go.

I think I need one of those donation thermometer graphics now...

-Ben
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:45 PM
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25. If everyone on DU who use's your site would simply give...
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 12:14 AM by Oracle
just $5.00, five little bucks, and there would not be a problem...

You give us Malloy, Randi Rhodes, Peter Werbe, Enid and and the sleeper, Hartman and maybe even Bernie Ward down the road...five bucks, how can one think anything else as being more important as far as information is concerned?

And we are talking about FOX, CNN, MSNBC, CBN, ABC and CBS,even PBS now..eeeeccchh!!

Cheers to you Ben!

Please donate five bucks.

Just think if you were NOT there.

http://homepage.mac.com/benburch/WRIndex1.html
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BackDoorMan Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:56 PM
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26. A kick for a good cause.
:dem:
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:21 AM
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27. Well everyone,...
All day long speak how we hate the media...we've got to give...alternative??? There is NONE!

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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:28 AM
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28. A kick
I'm already on the subscription, but I can send some extra that I was going to use to go to the DC march before work got in the way. :) :)

I'd go nuts without my Mike Malloy downloaded every night to my iPod for the ride to work and during the day.
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:55 AM
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30. When I'm on the road...I have to go to Kinko's to download Malloy...
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 01:56 AM by Oracle
and now Hartman and Rhodes and our friend Werbe...is it NOT worth a three dollar bag of potato chips and soda?

That's all it takes.
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:32 AM
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29. A last desperate kick...
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 02:05 AM by Oracle
have you used... White Rose...ever? http://homepage.mac.com/benburch/WRIndex1.html then maybe you might give the amount you'd pay for a candy bar...to White Rose.

It will help this dude out and our love of listening to truth, immensely.
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:07 AM
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31. We'll kick it for the weekend crew.
That's when I catch up on some of the shows...
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:17 AM
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33. Kick...no one cares..do you? .kick it ...anyway...
is it worth it to you? of course it is...just five bucks... http://homepage.mac.com/benburch/WRIndex1.html

And we have Malloy, Rhodes, Werbe,, Hartman, Enid, and maybe Bernie Ward.

If no White Rose Society, every night, when you want or need it, then what?

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joe1991 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:10 AM
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32. I subscribed also, great service to us out in the boonies!
I download the shows to my mp3 player alomost daily.
Now I never have to listen to the rush-wannabes.

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 09:09 AM
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34. Half way there!

Many Thanks!
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:56 PM
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35. Now we need Guy James
His Archives are WMA streaming, be nice to have them on my iPod. :)

Kick
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:05 PM
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36. Guy James archives...
Well, given that he HAS archives I won't replicate them. I can tell you how to convert the files, but it is tedious! It requires you to play them with Windows Media Player, and then capture and compress the output audio with Audio Hijack Pro. This is how I record the three shows in my archive that are streamed as Windows Media. I have found NO other way to make the conversion. Of course, this means if two shows are streamed at the same time, I need to have two machines to do the recording. When I add a third show; a third machine! Microsoft does not make this easy, which is because they do not WANT it to be easy. Part of what they sell to people with a Windows Media streaming license is the inability of the end user to record the content.

-Ben
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:26 PM
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37. Ah, Understood
I'm just whining about non-portability. :)

Having it on my iPod, or on an MP3 data CD would mean I could pass them around to friends (hint for the GJS crew) :) :) :)
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:07 PM
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38. kick
doink
:kick:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:54 PM
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43. Ummm... Paulie?
I was just looking at Guy James' site, and his archives ARE in MP3 format! I have asked Guy if I can put them on my site. Even if I do have to record his shows, they are not conflicting with any other recordings, and so I do not have a machine-time conflict. And given that they are weekly shows, I should be able to squeeze them in someplace.

-Ben
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:59 PM
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44. I just looked
When I was last there, they were labeled MP3, but they are links that point to a MMS server.

The PC link ones use MMS, the Others use this say HTTP in the link (that's how they got it working for my Mac). But the content of the files:


C:\>type gjames031025.asf

Ref1=http://66.40.9.62:80/theguyjamesshow.com/GJAMES031025.mp3?ext=.asf


So, it would be cool, but they might have to be stream captured.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:18 AM
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39. Progress!


Almost there!

Thanks so much!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:57 PM
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41. Made It!
Thanks to all who contributed! Our ongoing monthly costs are about $250/month, so we can use any additional contributions! If we can get enough of a war chest together, I can add additional shows to the site!

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:07 PM
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45. Ben, just noticed that your site
is not on the archive section of

http://www.makethemaccountable.com/listening/

That is where I always go to find progressive/liberal sites to listen to. Do you want to email them and let them know you are out there?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:04 PM
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46. Kick
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