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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:46 PM
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Freepers support a monarchy?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 09:48 PM by Trek234
I have to say this is one of the most bizarre posts I have ever seen from a freeper at free republic. I knew the site was home to extreme republicans and libertarians, but obviously they are attracting people even more to the fringe. Hopefully this will continue to relegate them even more so to minority status.

Apparently this guy believes the following:

He's a monarchist

He will support any government - even a dictatorship - so long as they recognize god. ("God is with us" Hitler would probably be a fave of his... oh and of course the god must be HIS god - same stupiditiy as the "my god is bigger" general)

Oh of course he's a "patriot"

He believes the colonists should have never rebelled against England. (isn't that grounds to be banned at free republic?) Of course god appointed the king, and he was the rightful ruler. But what's done is done.

The founders based the constitution on the ten commandments/bible.

He's against "libertinism" - whatever that is. It's too different to be a typo for libertarianism or liberalism.

So yes, a right wing monarchist. The freak show of free republic continues.

Here is the post

"God gave us these unalienable rights and they can never be taken from us by man or government.

This idea is the keystone in the archway of just government. Although I am philosophically a monarchist, I will support any government — popular, hereditary, or even authoritarian — that recognizes the above principle. Any government that does not acknowledge the fact that the God of Chrstians and Jews is the Supreme Source of Authority, justice, law, and human rights is doomed to become a tyranny — some sooner, some later. Without the explicit recognition of that Power beyond human power that created human beings in His image, there can be no human rights in any society, for the very concept of human rights derives from the religious belief that the individual human person is sacred and as such must be respected.

This is why I am a patriot. Although I believe that rebellion against the legitimate government of the United Kingdom was both a mistake and an unchristian rejection of the authority God had appointed for the people of the Colonies, the historical fact is that the rebellion happened, and that of all the many rebellions against authority that have occurred over the centuries, ours was by comparison the least democratic and the most benign. Not for our Fathers any notions of atheistic (and therefore baseless) “Fundamental Rights of Man”; the United States of America may have been founded on the shifting sands of Enlightenment philosophy, but unlike the republicans whose Godless revolution turned France into a charnel-house, the founders of our revolutionary state tempered their zeal for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with an explicit and unabashed acknowledgement of the Rock upon which all life, liberty, and happiness are founded, namely Almighty God. For this reason – her acknowledgemment of the Divine origin of all human rights and liberties — the United States has been a force for Goodness in the world. We will remain so for as long as that connection remains unsevered. Should, however, a “wall of separation” ever be constructed between God and State, should the atheists, materialists, and apostates among us succeed in divorcing our government from its fundamental Judeo-Christian ethic — she will cease to be so, and will in time become merely another tyranny.

Mr. Robinson, though I do not share your republican politics — or, indeed, the politics of the average FR member — as a loyal American I respect your love of country and devotion to her traditions. With the passage of time, as the world’s days grow ever more dark, we conservatives — monarchist, republican, and authoritarian — must join forces and stand against the forces of atheism, libertinism, and those who seek to destroy everything we hold dear. Thank you for providing a forum where conservatives of every stripe — even monarchists like me! — may discuss, debate, and organize in response to the machinations of the infernal powers and principalities against whom we all war." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004710/posts?q=1&&page=601
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:53 PM
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1. Anti-evolution, Anti-Lincoln: These are a few of their favorite things
Tough to pick out their most bizarre posts. So many nutcases to choose from. Some themes are more prevalent than others: Hillary as Satan; Lincoln as the Anti-Christ; Bush as God; the Earth as 4,500 years old. Always entertaining. Always frightening, as they are now the mainstream of the Republican Party.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:56 PM
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2. How can anyone possibly claim to be a loyal American
and deny Americans a democratic republic?
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:01 PM
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3. Hahaha- well, that's certainly fringe.
Though I suppose it is the logical conclusion of the whole "god picks the president" line of thinking.

Some people really need father figures and heroes. You see alot of it in the extreme right wing, for some reason.

Ronald Reagan, is a great example- they've been deifying him for the last 15 years. I heard a guy just this week who said that if you're going to call Ronald Reagan an idiot, you might as well go ahead call Jesus a creep. He actually compared Ronald Reagan to Jesus, and he claims to be a very religious guy.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 05:50 AM
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20. What's the difference between Jesus and Reagan?
Jesus knows he's not Reagan.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:06 PM
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4. A libertine
is synonomous with hedonist. Someone who will do anything for a good time.

And this guy sounds like a true classical Hobbesian conservative.
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:10 PM
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5. I didn't even know there WERE monarchists out there.
Other then the actual monarchs out there, of course. I didn't think there were really any actual monarchists running around. Anarchists, communists, corporatists, socialists, fascists, democrats, libertarians, republicans, theocratists (which this assclown is, in a way), and others are easy to find in this country. But an actual monarchist? New to me.
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lynndew2 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:14 PM
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6. And we all go balistic when rush chose a very outta tune thread
Why do you even bother going there if all you are gonna do is find the worst of the worst, the most extreme of the extreme and say it represents them all. That just makes us look as bad as they are. Why cant we stay within our own and work out the things we need to win in 2004. Freeping the Freepers just to find the worst is just as bad as what rush did knowing he was going away.

I hope this frivilous waste of time can stop. It does nothing to further the effort and just takes us a step down.
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:17 PM
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7. My brother is a "social monarchist"
At least that's what he says :)

This has to be a parody. There's a gal on the Pravda web forum that's a Tsarist.

:wtf:

Chimpy is apparently some kind of fascist-theocrat.

Divine Right!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:18 PM
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8. Just when I thought they couldnt get any dumber...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 10:22 PM by tritsofme
Look at his profile ;) hahaha

B-Chan
Since Jul 18, 1998

Roman Catholic, monarchist, professional illustrator, designer, writer.

FR accomplishments: Created the term "presstitute" (by accident)
and introduced the term Schadenfreude into general FRusage.

"The Church's teachings on homosexuality cannot, will not change.
And the path to heaven and happiness for a Catholic
does not lie in seeking to reinterpret what is right and what is wrong."

- George Pell, Archbishop of Melbourne, Australia, 9 June 2003

Overview: I am neither a paleoconservative, nor a neoconservative, nor an evangelical Christian, nor a libertarian; I am a Catholic Conservative. I believe in God, the sanctity of human life, and in the values and ideals of Western, Judeo-Christian civilization, of which Tradition, Family and private Property are the bedrock.

I also believe that a sacramental monarchy is the best and most Christian system of government. While I do not advocate monarchy for the United States, I do anticipate a happy day when an authentically and expressly Christian monarchy will appear somewhere in the world.

Finally, I am a patriot. The United States is my homeland, and I support her Constitution and laws.

I am not a member of any U.S. political party or organization

In general, I am for: families, the Church, chivalry, Western civilization (including the State of Israel) and the medieval Christian conception of society as an organic and integral entity.

I am against: sexually immoral practices; atheism, humanism, and materialism; egalitarianism, sexual or otherwise; atomistic libertarianism, democracy, popular government in general; hatred (racial or otherwise); anti-Semitism; and the so-called separation of church and state.

Please keep in mind that my opinions on a given topic are subject to constant re-evaluation. I have been wrong in the past about a great many things, and my current or future opinions may be in error as well.

All posts by B-chan are intended for entertainment purposes only. Opinions expressed in cited links are not necessarily those of B-chan.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:55 PM
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11. DId he say he was against democracy?
Did I catch that right? Have they roasted his chesnuts on the open fire yet? Sheesh.

Can you see this nutjob dressing up in tights and a codpiece playing "King Arthure" on the weekende?
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:19 PM
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13. Well, "Presstitute" is pretty damn clever, so 10 pts. for that one.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 11:19 PM by Cat Atomic
:)
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:21 PM
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9. OK


When did Bush start posting on Free Republic?
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:36 PM
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10. Try this one out....
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 10:44 PM by southerngirlwriter
I don't know how to start a thread, or I would.

http:/www.tencommandments.org -- this guy wants to kill everyone and make the 10 Commandments the only laws.

http://momof9splace.com/purpose.html -- this lady, a preacher's wife with 9 kids, has some things to say about the purpose of women. You will either gag or laugh. I do both.

(Edited to copy and paste a little of her text).

Man needed someone to see how much he could lift and to say "My you are strong". But there was no one, Maybe he took a lap around the garden and there was no one to say.."Wow, you are the fastest runner I know!" God made woman to sit on the sidelines and cheer when a man succeeds. God made a woman to sit in the audience while her husband preaches and say. "That’s the best preacher in the world". That is why God made woman. He made her to be man's help meet. God made woman for man! The word "help meet" means "completer." Like finishing a circle...a completion. No, God didn't see a child needing care and say "I'm going to send somebody down to take care of that child". He didn't say "that baby needs a diaper change, I'll create someone to take care of that". Nor did He say "there's a dirty house, I'll send someone to clean". And as much as we would like to believe this He didn't say, "I'm going to send her down for man to love and protect". God didn't send you down to be helped; God sent you down to help




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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:32 AM
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21. man's "help meet "or 'help MEAT"
man's "help meet "or 'help MEAT"?? sheesh. I love when my wife says nice stuff about me but I also like being proud of her accomplishments at work. I can't imagine her as solely being my cheering section, yuck.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:57 PM
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12. I would love to laugh but unfortunately
these wierdos are echoing the the PLAN.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:21 PM
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14. okay, look, how do you think Cheney fits into this picture?
The GOP didn't put Cheney on the ticket in 2000 to be the on-deck man for 2008. He'd be too old, and his heart isn't that good. He's not presidential material.

But he's a good place-holder for baby bro Jeb. this is all about a dynasty, make no mistake. The whole thing with god, and the obscene friendship with the House of Saud, an absolute monarchy if there ever was one.

Fear the worst, hope for the best, and you'll never be caught unawares.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:25 PM
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15. Hmm. I put up a post in
the Lounge last week from the Sun tabloid about Cheney being afraid of UFO's, which is the reason they say we don't see him. It was a good laugh anyway. But, inquiring minds want to know.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:26 PM
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16. They're the kind of people who NEVER, EVER want to have to think
Free will scares the shit out of them! They want to be told what to do by God, by their leaders, by their husbands or wives, by their bosses. But Please don't make me think!
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:58 AM
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17. RimJob Has Been Purging The Free Republic
The only ones left are those who don't question him or Dimbo. The smarter ones have left for other forums and have been doing a little "work" on their own.

Like this:


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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:36 AM
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18. They're coming unglued...We're winning
WoW...
"With the passage of time, as the world’s days grow ever more dark, we conservatives — monarchist, republican, and authoritarian — must join forces and stand against the forces of atheism, libertinism, and those who seek to destroy everything we hold dear."

Sounds like a coherent battlecry to me...

Unite the Right!!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:58 AM
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19. I think he wants to be or see a Holy Roman Emperor.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:33 AM
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22. Looks like the Tories are coming out of the woodwork...
along with the Neo-Nazis and Southern separatists ;)
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:02 AM
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23. The Freepers were pimping for the Afghan king too
When the ex-King of Afghanistan was running a PR campaign to have the US put him back on the throne, FR was filled with people supporting him - they called themselves "traditionalists".

Yes, Freepers hate America, and yes they would have called our Founders "terrorists" and turned them into the British.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:24 AM
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24. Freepers will obey whatever Master says without questions
If their Bushevik Masters want them to be in favor fo Monarchy, they will be in favor of that.

If Master wants them to be bootlickers to a lickspittle Emperor, then they will do that.

If the want them to behave like Nazis or Soviets, then Freepers will do that.

At least this guy is honest about what he wants. He says he's out of touch with the politics of the rest of themn, and while maybe that's true of the details, they are all bootlicking Totalitarians at heart.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:34 AM
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25. Libertarians are rejecting the Republicans
and empire. They are the ones who have antiwar.com. They think all opposition should ban together to defeat the administration.
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