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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:01 PM
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Some advice for the newly outsourced, downsized, and generally unemployed

First of all, welcome to the nouveaux pauvre (that's "new poor" to you. Your french phrase days will gently fade into happy memories, like some other things.)

The purpose of this thread is to help you understand some of the changes that accompany this new chapter in your life.

For those of you who still have savings, early withdrawn IRAs, homes or automobiles to sell, or other assets that you have not yet liquidated and spent, you may wish to print this page out and save it. Depending on how hotshit a coder you were, it may be months, for a few of you, either a couple of years, before you need it.

For those of you who have already passed through that "well honey thank goodness we have enough to keep going for a little while" to the "hm, I think we've got enough equity that if we sell the house, we can get enough to tide us over" to the "holy shit! We have a total of $700 to our name, no income coming in, and this $1200 apartment I thought we'd be in for a month or 2 is now asking for month 6 of the rent" phase, some of you will now transition to the "I guess we can go back to Peoria to stay with the folks for a while" benchmark.

Print this and save it. You are very fortunate.

Now those of you are left are the ones who have already sold and spent everything you had, you don't have folks to go stay with for a while, and you have just made a new and important discovery: Your new "survival jobs until.." are not enough to enable you to afford housing. In other words, you are now priced out of the housing market.

If you are lucky, you may find something with a roof that with one more shift you can afford, where you will learn many new things, and so will your kids.

You always knew that there were neighborhoods like this, but you never thought YOU'D be living in one, especially not with kids, who you have had to take out of the progressive alternative school and place into the one with the metal detectors and the very reasonably priced nearly new Glock swap meets in the parking lot, from which they will return every afternoon to discover their new neighborhood while both of you work your second shifts.

There is no one way to explain to them that everything you taught them about calling 911 is no longer applicable, because the only way the police will come here at all is if you yell "officer down!" into the phone, and frankly, nobody at the precinct is buying that any more because they know that no officer goes there. It's an opportunity to grow in your parenting skills.

There will be some dietary changes. As soon as your car is repossessed or stolen, you will be reliant on your feet and public transportation, and in combination with your new 5 AM to midnight 7 day schedule, you will notice some differences in your food choices. Instead of riding out to the big supermarket with the produce section, grocery shopping will now mean picking up some loaf bread and stale peanut butter at a convenience store for about twice what you paid for it at the supermarket. The plus side is that it is open 24 hours, and you can walk to it!

Hot meals will now be available at McDonald's. You will soon find that this is both more economical and practical than trying to make a hot meal out of a dusty can of peas and a small $4 pack of beef jerky from the convenience store.

Another big change will be health care. You have probably been accustomed to take the kids to the doctor, even go yourself, in the case of illness, and made a point of making sure that the whole family gets in for regular wellness checks and preventive care, like an annual physical for those of you who are over 35 or so.

While that will no longer be possible, what you can do is discover that while some illnesses and injuries are painful and uncomfortable, they eventually get better and/or heal on their own.

You can also know that you are participating in the free market system, and your education will come in handy to help you realize that neither you nor your children have any value at all on the free market, and it is in fact not in the best interest of the insurance industry or your employer to provide any usable health insurance for you, and that even if one or more of your "survival" jobs comes with a "benefit package," in most cases, it is far cheaper to pay out your burial policy than your health care claim, and simply replace you, as the amount of "training" your replacement is negligible, as is the new hire paperwork, and for every "survival job" you have, there are dozens if not hundreds of people clamoring for it if you expire.

This is an especially good economic fact to remember if you should ever be tempted to share your opinions on the conditions of your employment with management.

Coming soon - Part II: How long will your child be held for the first offense seeing you can't pay bail money?
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:08 PM
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1. Yes yes yes
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:14 PM
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2. This is upsetting to read
Frankly I am in that position, though still not at the level at the end. I am probalby still in the first paragraph part.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:26 PM
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4. Unemployed for 39 Months, All To True, Society is Telling Me That

I am useless!

Matters not education,
Matters not experience,
Matters not desire.

I am used up and no longer needed.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:38 AM
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13. Not so, mhr...
If your purpose had expired, you wouldn't be here to write that now.

One small thing you did today: You beat me, and I thank you for it. I don't know anyone who's been on the skids as long as I have -- 34 months, and counting.

I've felt used up and useless for a very long time, but I figure if I'm still here, there must be something left for me to do. The hard part is finding out what that is.

I know none of this is any real consolation, but hey, at least neither of us is alone.

Sign me,

In Virtual Peoria
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:08 AM
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21. You both have me beat, I'm sorry to say (sorry for you, not me)
I've only been on the midden for 23 months. And I at least have my old-age pension from ss (though it's something I'd hoped never to need to take)
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:15 PM
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3. write part II now
nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:35 PM
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5. I finally agree with you on something jiacinto n/t
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:37 PM
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6. Scathing! Wow DuctapeFatwa, Wow!
I truly felt that!This is why unions are important.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:40 PM
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7. God Bless Murka
We are so blessed to have a strong moral leader like George Bush in the White House.

If only Clinton had not trashed the economy while engaging in illicit consensual sex.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:48 PM
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8. "engaging in illicit consensual sex" That is so pre-Schwarzenegger
Heck. Even the most holy of them Republicans like Pat Robertson and Junior himself said Schwarzenegger is a swell guy who engaged in a little gangbanging only once in a while. These are new times we live in.

Don

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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:25 AM
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9. kick for people who are just now reading part 3
*
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:13 AM
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10. Uhhh, okay and could you pls. kick part II...
I've read parts I & III, but not part II.

As disturbing as this is, I have to read more. You really shouldn't bludgeon people with the truth; mainstream media doesn't. :-( You're making us waste our "beautiful minds" on this stuff.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:17 AM
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11. links
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:24 AM
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12. wow Fatwa
You should see about submitting this to some major newspapers! Powerfull well written stuff, my friend. Would you mind sending me a personal message when you have composed part 2? I don't wanna miss it.

RC
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jbutsz Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:26 AM
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14. 26
Here and living with the folks again. So is my 33 year old sister and her 12 and 11 year old daughters for the past year.
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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:47 AM
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15. flame away
but imho the only way to stop this worldwide slide into poverty traps is an organised workers revolution..we demand education..healthcare..decent housing..real jobs..we are not just cannon fodder for governments and expendable consumers for corporations..
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:58 AM
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16. No flames, friend (nt)
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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 05:10 AM
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17. cheers ..selwynn
:)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 05:19 AM
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18. I'm truly sorry for everyone whose life you've described
my brother is in a similar situation, good job gone to India, saved only by the fact that his wife still has a good job and they have no kids.

The one thing I can do today is to stop letting the petty stuff on my job get me down. And send more money to charities and Democrats running for office.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:07 AM
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19. KICK!
.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:29 AM
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26. my job is getting me down, and it's not petty
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 06:30 AM by Skittles
routing 60 hour weeks are taking their toll. It is easier to abuse the crap out your workers now than to hire those who need jobs. :(
And fear of layoff make you toe the line.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:05 AM
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20. WOOOOO! Hot damn, SING it, brother!
That is absolutely the best thing I've read recently here. Mordant and bang on the, you should excuse it, money.

I can hardly wait til part 2.

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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:21 AM
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22. Bravo
My husband's IT job went to India almost three years ago. The man has a master's degree and spends his days hammering dry wall and his nights schlepping cocktails to rich republicans. He's in his 40's and the physical and mental stress is taking its toll. Luckily I still have medical benefits.

I just survived another round of layoffs only because I'll be taking on another person's job as well as doing my own. Oh, and we've been informed there is to be a "salary study" done in our department. When people screamed that they can't make it on lower wages, management said good luck finding another job because there are plenty of people waiting in line to fill their positions, regardless of how low the wages are.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:19 AM
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23. kick
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 05:19 PM
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24. night bump
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:31 AM
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25. A LIST OF ALL LINKS
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 08:33 AM
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27. This is the sad truth for everyone where I live
in the summer, we shine shoes for wealthy tourists, in the winter, people use wood for heat or dont have heat at all.
and the gas company just raised the price.
The food stamp program in MI has maxed out, and only ONE church out of 85 in town has a food pantry. and its a little church.
So much for compassion.
This is what happens. This is why I dont understand why anyone would vote for Bush as their gas and electric is shut off, their kids get no health care, they have to walk 10 miles to town because its mandatory car insurance here, and believe me, every house around me is up for sale ...taxes are sky high.
Great article. spot on.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 08:49 AM
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28. excellent question
"This is why I dont understand why anyone would vote for Bush as their gas and electric is shut off, their kids get no health care, they have to walk 10 miles to town because its mandatory car insurance here, and believe me, every house around me is up for sale ...taxes are sky high."

Could it be that folks in this position feel isolated, ashamed and alone? Could it be that what is needed is some institution to rally them all, to let them know that they are NOT alone, that they are not powerless to change all this, that there is a place they can go to begin the process of change.....oh I dont know, perhaps a political party might be a perfect orgainisation to get out this message, a party that is not in power, that is not benefitting from all this economic misery, that is not the GOP. I wish to Gaia that such a party existed...
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 09:36 AM
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29. Everybody needs to read this.
All nine parts.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 09:58 AM
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30. I just started reading this
and while I have been lucky to not have to hold down a job for awhile I have recently started applying for jobs. Went to a interview Friday where I was asked what would my former employers say about my loyality? I thought that guy was insane. He still thinks the rules from the 60's apply. I told him that all companies love you while you work for them. Even if I get offered the job I doubt this will be a good fit.

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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 12:11 PM
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31. "Good fit"
is sooo late 90s. Nowadays, most people should take whatever they're offered, and keep looking while they work there if they don't like it. It could be your only offer for a long time. I don't know what your circumstances are, but if you need a job in the semi-near future, you may not be able to afford to be picky.

Friendly advice from someone who has been there. :)
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 12:50 PM
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33. "Good Fit" is subjective (-)negative criteria
Possible translations:

"Is this one sufficiently newly deficient in self-worth to not question any commands that are given?"

"Does this one have any outside links to something/someone else beneficial to my personal welfare -- Can we trade?"

"Are any of this one's relatives/friends likely to throw down big bucks to a)buy our products/services; 2)add a hugh block of our stock to their portfolios, 3)cover our losses w/a nice low-cost loan for payroll.

"Does this one have a personal relationship w/local cop(s) who will protect me for the minimal cost of some donuts, if I agree to buy/distribute Fish Fry tickets, or just pass out some hush...?"

Sorry to be so cynical but remember, "good fit" has nothing to do w/experience, education, enthusiasm or the need to care for children/elderly or find adequate "balance" for personal achievements/endeavors.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 12:46 PM
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32. here's link to Part VIII which has links to Parts II through VII
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