I really love Michael Moore!

[MoonRiver]

I'm watching him on Democracy Now! and he makes so much sense. I loved it when he stated how he couldn't wait to hear draft dodger * debate 'the General'! Ha,ha, ha, Mike described how * would constantly have to waffle and state: 'don't you think that's true GENERAL'? Mike is just so incredibly energizing. He's totally there for the Democratic Party. I do not believe he will promote the siphoning off of votes to the Greens again. He makes it clear that the future of this country is absolutely at stake and we must vote Democratic for our democracy to survive.

[1songbird]

1. Love for Michael Moore

Michael Moore does rock! I recently read his latest book "Dude Where's My Country?. He is definitely a great liberal mind. I just hope that more people read it and start to ask themselves the tough questions about 9/11.

[MoonRiver]

6. Yes, 9/11 mass tragedy must be unraveled.

We simply must discover who was responsible for the negligance, or worse, that allowed such a horror to happen. We know the individual perpetrators, now we have to find their accomplices.

God Bless (the) America (that used to be). :cry:

[newyawker99]

35. Hi 1songbird!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[MaidinVermont]

2. Except for his moronic take on decent gun owners he's ok.

Otherwise I have no use for yet another anti-gun owner.

[lysergik]

3. Which take is this?

n/t

[MaidinVermont]

10. See BFC

A movie full of lies.

[FlemingsGhost]

11. I've seen it...

Please elaborate.

[lysergik]

13. I've also seen it.

I didn't see any "lies", it was a movie to make you *THINK* all while asking a very pertinent question "Why does the US have a higher incidence of gun related accidents compared to other countries?"

[MaidinVermont]

14. To elaborate on MM stupidity of gun owners would be useless

He has no clue about us that arm ourselves without the hollywood stereotype of gun owners. Vermonters have no need for morons like MM.

[thebigidea]

15. what would be the Hollywood stereotype?

and what makes Michael Moore a Hollywood filmmaker?

Your suspicious talk of Hollywood makes me think you hate freedom, because Hollywood is a beacon of FREEDOM. With us or against us, right?

I'm tired of all this Communist propaganda being used on DU, I tell you - its INSIDIOUS!

[MaidinVermont]

18. I'm a Vermonter

I don't need MM, hollywood or anyone else making up lies about real gun owners. Nuff said.

[thebigidea]

20. again, Michael Moore and Hollywood. What connection is there?

Do you know where he lives? Does that not factor into your equation? Is independent film somehow absorbed by "Hollywood" these days?

And how is that a bad thing if so?

And who brought up Vermont, and what does that have to do with Bowling for Columbine?

And why is the sky blue at certain times of day?

and why do you hate freedom and Michael Moore so much?

Don't like all the questions, ok - try just one.

1. Name one of the so-called lies.

Just one.

[Kamika]

29. dude

I'm a heavy pro-gunner and i still love Michael Moore, you know you REALLY need to work on your debating skills. Saying your opinion followed by "nuff said" wont cut it.

You haven't told us one single reason why you dislike him, we can guess that it has to do with guns. Also youre telling us he's lying, but you havent given us one example.

You're debating freerepublic style

[FlemingsGhost]

21. Did you see Moore's speech at the Academy Awards?

Hardly the typical Hollywood "type."

Please humor me and elaborate on Michael Moore's "stupidity of gun owners."

Mind you, I am what is referred to as a "bleeding heart liberal," who is seriously considering arming themselves after 20+ years of vehemently opposing the efforts of the NRA.

[thebigidea]

12. right on schedule

pssst. we're on page 12, the orange rewrites. Top of the page. Now you sneak in a link to some real goofy site that has Charlton Heston wallpaper.

I'll give you your cue: "Oh yeah, lies you say? Well do you have a convenient source that doesn't do a good job of detailing the so-called lies in a very effective piece of art?"

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[thebigidea]

17. I want some of your argument

I came in here for an argument, not abuse.

"Sandwiches? Whatever did I give the wife?"

step up to the plate, freedom-lover. Delineate the lies. Fill in the blanks.

When Michael Moore says _________, he is innacurate.

Make your marks heavy and dark, use a number two pencil please.

[MSchreader]

33. Get a clue

Mike owns guns, and has been a life member of the NRA since he was a teen. His problem, as he put it in BFC, is not with gun owners, but with paranoid gun-toting suburban/rural whites.

Martin

[LittleApple81]

4. I loved that speech. He is a very enthusiastic speaker.

When people suggested he run for President he said something like: "people, I am not what you would like to have rolling around in the White House."

[thebigidea]

5. he's a good egg

of course this thread will now erupt into

a) several posters citing right wing sites about his "lies" - no refuting will go on, though...

b) several other posters will point out the lies, while...

c) several other posters mention the theological problems involved in worshipping Moore like a God - for he will never atone for his "Great Betrayal of 2000," as they call it, you can almost smell the capital letters.

ok, have at it!

GO!

[mdmc]

7. well

he's okay.
Haig in 2004 !!!

[Kool Kitty]

8. I heard this when it was on this morning.

Great stuff, and I liked the debate statement, too. I think he's terrific.

[FlemingsGhost]

9. Michael Moore is a visionary.

A courageous seeker of truth who is ahead of his time.

An artist, in every sense of the word...

[thebigidea]

19. he does the job, which makes people insanely jealous

I envy his success, and it smells like lots of other people do too.

[althecat]

22. My copy of Dude Where's My Country just arrived in the mail....

I am so happy :)

[onebigbadwulf]

23. People who call Moore a liar

The people who think Moore's presentation of facts and events in BFC are LIES are just simply too stupid to understand that implications do not equal facts / lies.

For example... putting footage cuts of Hestons' "out of my cold dead hands" speech in between cuts of the Columbine parents protest is NOT a lie. If you're dumb enough to think that the spliced speeches were somehow happening simultaneously, then you're probably too stupid to understand the point of the movie anyway.

[Isome]

24. Me Too!

The tendency of the left to bend over backwards (or more accurately, bend to the right) whenever the neo-cons push criticism of one of "ours" through their echo chamber is disconcerting, but to be expected. That tendency is what has the Democrats in general in such a pickle right now.

[FlemingsGhost]

25. kick

Just to piss off Selwynn...

:kick:

[thebigidea]

26. snicker

let us bow down before Moore!

Lick his toes, united in Worship!

Oh, Moore
who art in heaven
blessed be thy fame.

[Isome]

27. Why the hyperbole?

e o m

[thebigidea]

28. because we worship him like a god!

he shows us the way, his skanky beard holds all the answers.

[Isome]

30. OIC...

the quoted phrase that is.

[FlemingsGhost]

31. Excuse my ignorance... What's OIC?

:shrug:

[thebigidea]

32. I was going to say the same, not being "hip" and/or "with it"

but then, when you say it out loud, its pretty self-explanatory.

[FlemingsGhost]

34. OIC!

D'oh!

[rman]

36. do you worship Moore?

i guess not. so you'r just being cynical - no rationale, just trying to create negative emotions.