This is the level of insanity we've allowed to be unleashed onto the world

[caduceus]

MICHAEL OREN and BRET STEPHENS:
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Perle's horizons

Meet Richard Perle

http://info.jpost.com/C003/Supplements/FSB/031017/art.02.html


Perle: In any case, in today’s world of precision weapons you can destroy military power without destroying a large number of people. We just did it in Iraq. So I’m very dubious about punishing hapless civilians in societies where somebody else is making the decisions….

Oren: The punishment the US inflicted on its enemies in World War II came from a sense of rage at Pearl Harbor. Is American society — and this is a question I’ve asked about Israeli society — capable of rage? Are we capable of being driven to savagery? Are we capable of waging all-out war?

Perle: Yes, we’re capable of rage and the next terrorist act will produce it. September 11 produced it.

Oren: I’m more struck by the absence of rage.

Perle: Well, it was controlled, but believe me, the support for going after the Taliban and even for going after Iraq was very strong for that reason. The chattering classes don’t experience rage.

Stephens: There’s a story told about Bush’s visit to the World Trade Center, right after the attack.
He was chatting with some hard hats, and he looked at this one guy and said, "What can I do for you?"
And the man said, "Help the widows and orphans."
And Bush said, "No, what can I do for you?"
And the man said, "You go find whichever m--f-- did this and you kill him and his wife and his mother and his children and his dog and everyone who so much as served him a cup of coffee."
And Bush said, "You won’t be disappointed."

Perle: That story sounds right to me. You know, a lot of our guys in Iraq carry around pieces of the World Trade Center. The chattering classes are talking about the relationship between Saddam Hussein and 9/11. These guys are under no illusions. It’s all part of the same war.

[jonoboy]

1. did Saudia Arabia get a mention at all?

so thats ok then..just destroy a small number of people.

these guys are completely and totally insane.

[asjr]

2. perle

"chattering classes." OR "Yes, the peasants in our country chatter a lot. They have to be led, you know."

Give us a break from a-holes like Perle.

[dwckabal]

3. WTF

are "chattering classes?"

[asjr]

7. classes

I believe he means the general public--all of us, not just the dissenters. I think he is putting us down as people who will go along. That is what I take from it. I may be wrong. The man just makes me want to puke.

[On the Road]

11. I Believe the "Chattering Classes" are the Compliant Media

as well as what what Agnew referred to as "pusillanimous pussyfooters" and "an elite corps of impudent snobs."

It's a term of disdain -- all polite talk, no action. It's used in opposition to "real Americans," like the hard hat he mentions.

[caduceus]

4. Saudi Arabia was indeed mentioned...

Basically, he said we have to attack Iraq and Syria for their terrorist dealings, but as for Saudi Arabia,

"Perle: No, you’ve got to fight the sources. And I believe we’re doing it. I believe the president knows perfectly well what the Saudi role is. And he knows he must get them to stop. The way to get them to stop is not so easy. There is no single approach. I don’t think he has any sympathy for the Saudis."

[Karenina]

6. Course not!

Just tons and tons of bidness ties! :-)

[caduceus]

5. Are we capable of being driven to savagery?...Pearl: Yes.

Oren: The punishment the US inflicted on its enemies in World War II came from a sense of rage at Pearl Harbor. Is American society — and this is a question I’ve asked about Israeli society — capable of rage? Are we capable of being driven to savagery? Are we capable of waging all-out war?

Perle: Yes, we’re capable of rage and the next terrorist act will produce it. September 11 produced it

[gratuitous]

10. Well Mr. Perle

You may be surprised at the level of rage that the "chattering classes" can experience. Even now, we're working around your perimeter, inching closer and closer to what you hold dearest above all else. But because we're smarter than you, you won't know what's up until it's far too late, maybe even after it's happened.

:evilgrin:

[nostamj]

8. "The chattering classes" ???

oh, how I loath this creature.

does he know the civilian body count in Iraq or Afghanistan ??

i feel dirty even reading about him

[caduceus]

9. What in are they preparing for next??????

Perle: Yes, we’re capable of rage and the next terrorist act will produce it

[jonoboy]

12. the chattering classes

is a classic put down that encompasses everyone from intellectuals to demonstrating students..ie anyone that actually thinks through and puts another view on the subject.
One that doesn't co-incide with yours.

[Cat Atomic]

13. Let's sign Hate Week into law immediately.

I'm blown away by their admission that 'driving the American public to savagery' is a necessary and desirable thing. It's absolutely sick.

Perle's comments also make it clear that he wants another big domestic act of terrorism. Considering the man's ethical background, that should worry anyone living in the US.